<repetitivestrain>
waddlesplash: ...if you get a debugger white screen yo ucan use save-report... it hangs at the stage where it tries to download debuginfo
<repetitivestrain>
any way to turn that off? i think most of the debuginfo it tries to download isn't relevant
<repetitivestrain>
thanks
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<waddlesplash>
repetitivestrain: it always prompts me to ask if it should download or not
<waddlesplash>
no hangs or anything
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<repetitivestrain>
waddlesplash: that's odd, i don't see it here
<repetitivestrain>
but i'll give it another shot in a while
<DKnoto>
System x86_64/hrev55877 running in Qemu on Linux.
<Diver>
yes, this is a known issue
<Niklas[m]>
I could now reproduce my crash from yesterday.It didn't happen anymore because the file was damaged by the crash,after restoring it and trying to compile,it crashes again.Did now try to get to the KDL,but it didn't work.The computer doesn't react to key presses anymore.
<Niklas[m]>
I'll try to give it some heavy workloads now to see if it's caused by the AMD cpu again.My last AMD computer reliably crashed when trying to use HaikuPorter,so let's try that...
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<Niklas[m]>
I can confirm crashes when trying to build random stuff from HaikuPorts :'(
<Niklas[m]>
...and fixed it!
<Niklas[m]>
I only need to specify -j3 at make (the number of my CPU cores) because it seems it doesn't like to spawn an infinite amount of processes
<Niklas[m]>
Line 95 and 96 return the same day,the one from the date parsed from the API response,but 96 should return the current day.Any ideas what I'm doing wrong?
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<atomozero>
hi, do you have any idea if anyone has ever worked for an openvpn client?
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<kallisti5[m]>
aw.. I was going to answer Atomozero but they left :-(
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<DKnoto>
kallisti5[m], I am waiting for a Talos II workstation with a Power 9 processor. I would like to help transfer Haiku to the PowerPC / LE platform, but I need some training. Where will they start best?
<DKnoto>
diver, Now I am reminded that I was reporting a similar problem. This is ticket #10044. In that case, there was another way to activate this error, via screensaver. It was 8 years ago ;-)
<Not-c620>
[haikuports/haikuporter] kallisti5 c060218 - buildmaster: Split branch spec into two
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<kallisti5[m]>
DKnoto: The basics of the powerpc port are still there
<kallisti5[m]>
DKnoto: really unmaintained though. Our loader used to boot on my Apple iMac G5
<kallisti5[m]>
but it's been ages since I tried it. I was kind of the last person working on it... arm came alone with cheap and plentiful hardware, then riscv64 with new shiny hardware. Mix in my Apple hardware becoming a pain to maintain and I kinda lost interest lol
<kallisti5[m]>
DKnoto: for somewhere to start... our buildtools no longer compile for PowerPC after the GCC 11 upgrade
<kallisti5[m]>
You can work on those without the hardware present. Just start a build like you would for x86 (mkdir generated.ppc; ../configure --build-cross-tools ppc --cross-tools-source ../../buildtools -j4)
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<DKnoto>
kallisti5[m], I noticed few day ago that buildtools don't compile for the ppc target. I added a new target ppc64le. BFD compiles but I stopped at the linker. I'm reading now 64-Bit ELF V2 ABI Specification.
<kallisti5[m]>
heh. while we have a ppc build, I don't think we have ever had a ppc64 build
<kallisti5[m]>
so, if you want to jump from 32-bit to 64-bit it is going to greatly increase your workload
<DKnoto>
So far I'm compiling everything on Linux, on Haiku in Qemu it is very slow. I also have a Power Mac G5 machine running.
<DKnoto>
There is an interest in Haiku among Talos II / Power9 users, maybe someone will help ;-)
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<rennj>
better to just avoid ibm like the plague
<rennj>
risc-v focus probably better time sink
<kallisti5[m]>
yeah. I kinda came to the realization that I was spending time on an architecture that has no cheap hardware and a limited future
<kallisti5[m]>
with Apple hardware getting older and older every day, and extremely limited new hardware in the user space. I really love PowerPC, but i just had to make a personal adjustment on what's important
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<rennj>
the AIM alliance got you
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<rennj>
apple ibm motorola AIM
<rennj>
opensparc and niagra t1 is available, leon3 chip used in space
<rennj>
waste of time also
<rennj>
android13 device running windows11, man that just crazy power
<kallisti5[m]>
today, i feel good about messing with arm because hardware is cheap + plentiful from multiple SoC vendors. I love riscv64 because of what it could become.
<rennj>
well nvidia/softbank foo..could have made a mess
<kallisti5[m]>
true. glad they didn't buy it :-D
<kallisti5[m]>
nvidia is NOT an open-source friendly company
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<DKnoto>
rennj, If the RISC-V had the same capabilities as the Power 9, I would have bought the RISC-V. Basically I grew up on Alpha AXP and both architectures are just as good for me.
<rennj>
what pays the bills?
<rennj>
dec alpha was nice chip
<rennj>
jim keller is the ISA god
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<DKnoto>
rennj, Yes, its Alpha 21264 is a great processor.
<rennj>
i remember when that box came out
<rennj>
like 750Mhz or so
<rennj>
MHz
<rennj>
si prefix foo
<rennj>
unix review had ad's for it
<rennj>
"unix review"
<rennj>
we had 1 box running winnt 3.51 what a waste
<rennj>
A prototype of the system was demonstrated at COMDEX in 1993.
<rennj>
thats like vmware demo on nokia n800/900 or whatever
<rennj>
vmware running on arm running winblows or something..and that was long long time ago
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<DKnoto>
rennj, WinNT on Alpha AXP was a poor choice. I started with RedHat for Alpha on a Microway workstation.
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<sammi>
Is there any way to dual boot haiku with linux these days?
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<sammi>
From what I've read, GRUB supports haiku, but linux is what makes that difficult
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<idkwatimdoin>
For what I understand, grub can only detect and load the Haiku bootloader and the Os-prober program in linux can 't autodetect haiku
<sammi>
So could you just manually edit the grub config to boot haiku?
<idkwatimdoin>
os-prober is what unix-like systems use for detecting other operative systems and telling the right configuration to boot them to grub.
<idkwatimdoin>
yes
<sammi>
Oh!
<sammi>
So I could just install Haiku alongside this system, boot haiku interactively on the grub cmdline and then update the grub config in linux again (running grub-mkconfig)?
<sammi>
Or would that grub-mkconfig mess with things and I should just edit it directly?
<B2IA>
(AGMS) Use the new OS-Prober to detect newer Haiku.
<sammi>
Which version? I'm running Debian 11, so I wouldn't assume my os-prober is up to date
<B2IA>
(AGMS) We're waiting for the Debian people to actually use the updated prober we submitted to them.
<kallisti5[m]>
I need a few real-world speed tests. Getting 10MiB/s here in the us
<Niklas[m]>
I tried downloading it to my Matrix server (1GBit/s connection and NVMe SSD storage to avoid bottlenecks on my side).Downloads with 16.1 MB/s and even went up to 22MB/s for a few seconds.
<kallisti5[m]>
N
<kallisti5[m]>
* Thanks :-)
<kallisti5[m]>
What country are you in?
<Niklas[m]>
No problem :)
<Niklas[m]>
Germany.
<kallisti5[m]>
cool. Faster than Hetzner :D
<Niklas[m]>
The server is located at Hetzner Online in Nuremberg,Germany