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<B2IA> (AGMS) And sent an e-mail to @WaddleSplash since he did the binutils update to GCC-11, which includes newer objcopy programs.
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<jessicah> AGMS: ohh, I forgot they've started working on 32-bit UEFI, there's a variable you can set to select which loaders to build
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<Halian> Hey, I just installed beta 3 on my new desktop and I'm having two issues: (1) The installation is not self-bootable; I have to use the install USB to boot it (the system is EFI-based). (2) I get no graphics from the AMD Radeon RX 570 graphics card unless I enable the fallback graphics driver.
<Halian> Specs: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X CPU, MSI B550-A PRO motherboard, 16 GB RAM, 480 GB SATA SSD + 1 TB NVMe SSD for Linux + 8 TB HDD for data, AMD Radeon RX 570 GPU.
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<Halian> It's almost 5 AM here, so I sadly need to go to bed, but please do mention or /query me if you can help with the above issues. :)
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<countryboy> my brother bought a pc like the one from extrowerk on ebay, but not exactly that one, one of the same model
<countryboy> i found make and model on the hardware compatibily page
<countryboy> it was fully compatible with haiku ...
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<Niklas[m]> Halian: You need to manually create a small FAT32 partition for EFI on your hard disk and copy the contents from the install USB sticks EFI partition to it.The installer can only automatically setup BIOS but not EFI yet.
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<qwebirc64500> Good morning
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<KatEMT> So if anyone is around, I wanted to report that the Haiku images on the site are not bootable. I've tried everything from torrenting them to different mirrors and none of them boot correctly.
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<nephele> which?
<nephele> the beta3 definetely boots for me
<KatEMT> All of them, 64-bit and 32-bit
<KatEMT> Did you do it from a USB drive or disk?
<KatEMT> I only tried USB
<nephele> usb
<KatEMT> Yeah, I've tried numerous times and all they do is make my computer reboot. It sits at the Haiku boot screen for a few seconds and the computer reboots
<KatEMT> And I "burned" them with the recommended program... Balena Etcher
<nephele> please report a ticket then :)
<KatEMT> How do I go about that? Is that on the site?
<nephele> not sure why that chromium app is recomended but okay, it should not matter. bug reports are on https://dev.haiku-os.org
<KatEMT> Ok, I'll give that a go. Thank you
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<bbjimmy> Hmm Tracker crash ... thread 12039: _thumbgen_w128_d3_n2623555_ state: Exception (Segment violation)
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<nephele> maybe that is the crash i already reported
<nephele> ah nvm, mine is for an assertion
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<andreasdr[m]> Hi
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] jessicah pushed 1 commit to master [hrev55849] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=cba95132ca1a+%5E74e271b2a286
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] cba95132ca1a - libroot: add timespec_get to build
<andreasdr[m]> Had a small Haiku session and it got me into KDL
<andreasdr[m]> Looks like it was related to Quaternion(The matrix client)
<andreasdr[m]> With the newest nightly. Had not have crashes for multiple months.
<andreasdr[m]> Anything I can do?
<x512[m]> Type "bt" <enter>
<andreasdr[m]> Damn stupid me. I actually know about how to use a debugger, I was so confused because this was not expected.
<andreasdr[m]> Next time "bt"
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* augiedoggie thinks Haiku ran into this bug with bison & libreoffice https://bugs.gentoo.org/812923
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<augiedoggie> patch looks trivial enough but i don't have time right now
<augiedoggie> at least for the x86_64 version, the x86 build failed for a different reason
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<Halian> Hey, I just installed beta 3 on my new desktop and I'm having two issues: (1) The installation is not self-bootable; I have to use the install USB to boot it (the system is EFI-based). (2) I get no graphics from the AMD Radeon RX 570 graphics card unless I enable the fallback graphics driver.
<Halian> Specs: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X CPU, MSI B550-A PRO motherboard, 16 GB RAM, 480 GB SATA SSD + 1 TB NVMe SSD for Linux + 8 TB HDD for data, AMD Radeon RX 570 GPU.
<augiedoggie> Halian: yeah, i have the same issues on my setup, it's fairly recent that it's been broken
<augiedoggie> i have to use an older efi loader and i've blocked the radeon_hd driver from loading
<augiedoggie> hopefully they'll both be fixed soon
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<Halian> augiedoggie: how do I block the radeon_hd driver permanently, so I don't have to mash the spacebar every time I boot Haiku? :P
<Halian> (would also like to hear instructions for setting up your bootloader)
<Halian> Thanks <3
<augiedoggie> those are the generic guides, i can post the actual file somewhere
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<andreasdr[m]> I am thinking about trying a Eclipse IDE port. Do we have all those dependency libs?
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<nielx[m]> how does eclipse do UI?
<nielx[m]> and which java version does it depend on?
<andreasdr[m]> As shown in the image
<andreasdr[m]> SWT If I got this right with gtk3
<andreasdr[m]> I know we have GTK3
<andreasdr[m]> Maybe Ill try later today. Lets see.
<andreasdr[m]> Actually it does not have soo much dependencies.
<andreasdr[m]> My idea is just to look at FBSD FreshPort how they do it.
<augiedoggie> Halian: my /boot/system/settings/packages file https://gist.github.com/augiedoggie/6b8e5f33a65dbde243c140ae79871d70
<Halian> Thanks
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* augiedoggie starts downloading the libreoffice source to test the patch begasus linked to
<augiedoggie> i hate dealing with those really massive packages though, llvm is awful too :/
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<jessicah> it took hours to update my airbook's haiku install
<jessicah> and had to use `until pkgman update -y ; do echo "retrying..." ; done` as well
<augiedoggie> heh
<jessicah> since get that stupid Operation would block error every now and then
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<nephele> with partial package downloads that is a bit less painfull... maybe next we can do incremental updates :)
<jessicah> nephele: yep, and the `until` trick works pretty well, although it'd be nicer if pkgman retried automatically itself
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<jessicah> and maybe supported parallel downloads
<jessicah> but package kit code is pretty hard to dig into :-/
<nephele> is there some way to use -y with install?
<nephele> or just yes | pkgman?
<nephele> or echo yes instaed
<nephele> ah... just putting it after install
<nephele> would be nice to somehow trigger a gui "install this?" dialog with a reason passed
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [hrev55850] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=c41b379e5adb+%5Ecba95132ca1a
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] c41b379e5adb - runtime_loader: Support resolving weak symbols as NULL.
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 3 commits to master [hrev55851] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=50157a8d1773+%5Ec41b379e5adb
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 8774bf60123a - libroot: Remove linker hack to prevent weak symbols.
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] c9d521ea5b75 - kernel/condition_variable: Various cleanups.
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 50157a8d1773 - kernel/condition_variable: Make ConditionVariableEntry::Variable non-inline.
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] ebf0b53a7e37 - kernel/util/atomic: Permit atomic_pointer_get to accept const* pointers.
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 2 commits to master [hrev55853] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=1267e873d310+%5Eebf0b53a7e37
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] f6b66066526b - BReferenceable: Always enable DEBUG in kernel mode when PARANOID_KERNEL_FREE is enabled.
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 1267e873d310 - protocols/unix: Do not re-build Referenceable.cpp.
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 125a7abe6f18 - package_infos/webpositive: provides app:webpositive.
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<andreasdr[m]> Hi
<andreasdr[m]> How to install a python3 package via PIP?
<andreasdr[m]> Need to install "pip install typogrify" for libsecret for Eclipse :DDD
<andreasdr[m]> Oh wait
<andreasdr[m]> Installing pip_python3 now
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 2 commits to master [hrev55855] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=1fc7d773236e+%5E125a7abe6f18
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 312ea0698002 - XHCI: Do not print "transfer error" for COMP_STOPPED.
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 1fc7d773236e - XHCI: Downgrade tracing of CancelQueuedTransfers.
<andreasdr[m]> Cool I have just compiled libsecret :DDD
<andreasdr[m]> What is the Haiku equivalent to '/usr/local/share/locale/ab/LC_MESSAGES/libsecret.mo'
<andreasdr[m]> So where to install files for a self compiled package?
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [hrev55856] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=cb860bd2eb48+%5E1fc7d773236e
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] cb860bd2eb48 - Add intel22x driver to the default images.
<jessicah> andreasdr[m]: you can use findpaths command
<jessicah> either DATA or CACHE
<jessicah> being locale files, probably DATA
<jessicah> findpaths -p B_FIND_PATH_DATA_DIRECTORY
<jessicah> you'd use one of the non-packaged ones
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<jessicah> oops, no -p
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<jessicah> if you know where you're installing to (e.g. /boot/system/non-packaged, or /boot/home/config/non-packaged), you can specify -p <install base>
<jessicah> e.g. findpaths -p /boot/system/non-packaged B_FIND_PATH_DATA_DIRECTORY
<jessicah> and those two non-packaged directories is your prefix, e.g. with configure
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] e48ac4a3de5e - Debugger: Add missing NULL check in ReportUserInterface.
<andreasdr[m]> jessicah: Thank you.
<andreasdr[m]> Will check,
<andreasdr[m]> Will check.
<jessicah> andreasdr[m]: you can get an idea of the standard layout of various dirs from haikuporter
<andreasdr[m]> Nice. Thank you.
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] e88ab494a887 - pkgman: Note in full-sync command summary that it may downgrade packages.
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<Not-c620> [haikuports/haikuports] augiedoggie e12976a - jo: add recipe for 1.6 (#6595)
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 20b3c898d812 - boot/efi/arm64: Enable FP/SIMD
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 8b25c6d727ac - Appearance: Store decorator filename to disk untranslated
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<B2IA> (Butler) Welcome to BeShare.agmsmith.ca.
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<B2IA> (AGMS) Back to trying to build Haiku on 32 bits, OS update first.
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<B2IA> (AGMS) Workaround - in src/system/boot/Jamfile change pei-i386 to elf32-i386 Makes the EFI bootloader unusable, but should let the build continue past the objcopy problem with pei-i386.
<B2IA> (AGMS) By the way, pei-i386 is a version of Microsoft's Portable Executable file (from Windows NT days), which EFI boot BIOSes use.
<jessicah> AGMS: you can specify which boot targets to use
<B2IA> (AGMS) Nightly builds both BIOS and EFI.
<jessicah> HAIKU_BOOT_TARGETS=bios_ia32 jam ...
<jessicah> should do the trick I think
<B2IA> (AGMS) Well, will try that in the future, if the compile gets to the end in 32 bit with my hack.
<jessicah> that will avoid the hack :)
<B2IA> (AGMS) Or if it doesn't get to the end, I'll try it too :-)
<jessicah> all the efi stuff will get skipped :)
<B2IA> (AGMS) Thanks.
<B2IA> (AGMS) And of course, it doesn't get to the end. fat_shell/dir.cpp has errors.
<Not-c620> [haiku/infrastructure] kallisti5 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://github.com/haiku/infrastructure/compare/b87a708b8069...9a0ad8551408
<Not-c620> [haiku/infrastructure] kallisti5 9a0ad85 - containers/general-worker: Add git-restore-mtime tool, sbsigntools, cpio
<B2IA> (AGMS) Turns out some C++ headers were using field initializers, which don't work in GCC2, need to init in a constructor instead.
<jessicah> AGMS: are you on beta3 or nightly, btw?
<jessicah> it's possible you're running into the EFI issue because you don't have the latest gcc packages installed
<B2IA> (AGMS) Latest nightly, updated too.
<jessicah> ah, weird then
<B2IA> (AGMS) Same thing as R1B3. objcopy is wrong version.
<jessicah> guess somebody didn't test enough
<B2IA> (AGMS) Bit rot, it happens when nobody's paying attention :-)
<B2IA> (AGMS) OK, got the media settings branch checked out for review, will try your target environment variable.
<jessicah> you can put it into UserBuildConfig later so you don't have to remember
<B2IA> (AGMS) Yup. Compile starting...
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<B2IA> (AGMS) Hmmm, compiling the EFI boot loader.
<B2IA> (AGMS) And it blew out in objcopy again.
<B2IA> (AGMS) Heh, it does HAIKU_BOOT_TARGETS += bios_ia32, efi pxe_ia32
<B2IA> (AGMS) So you can only add, not remove targets.