<coolcoder613>
Line editing on my OS is done.... time to write the shell
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<HaikuUser>
Hello
<HaikuUser>
I'm experiencing an issue with repositories
<HaikuUser>
The normal haiku repo is working but the haikuports repo has a 404
<HaikuUser>
I tried removing and re-adding it and it has a 404 error
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<funbreaker[m]>
I'm having the same issue. I installed the beta4 iso into a virtual machine
<HaikuUser>
I am on bare metal
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<HaikuUser>
Haiku rocks but I cannot update it
<HaikuUser>
Or install anything from Haiku depot
<OscarL>
HaikuUser, funbreaker[m]... beta4 updates were halted, as part of the beta5 release preparations.
<HaikuUser>
Can I somehow switch my update branch?
<HaikuUser>
And does that mean Beta 5 will be out really soon?
<OscarL>
if you get a 404 now, that's better than before already :-).
<HaikuUser>
Oh?
<OscarL>
Beta5 is near, yes. I would advice against switching branches for now, till a few quirks get ironed out.
<HaikuUser>
Ok thanks
<HaikuUser>
BTW, the appearance menu is AWESOME! I have a totally rad theme! It really needs a save/load system though so we can save and share themes!
<HaikuUser>
I'd love to make a few themes and switch them every now and then
<HaikuUser>
And touchpads need natural scrolling option. Those are my only two complaints so far!
<OscarL>
I never know what "natural scrolling" is suppossed to mean (other than "the other way around" :-P)
<OscarL>
Not sure if there's an open ticket for that already.
<HaikuUser>
Basically think like using a phone. When you scroll, the content moves in the direction of your fingers. Traditional scroll is the other way around
* OscarL
scrolls the same way as with scrollbars or mice wheels... move down, content-view goes up.
<OscarL>
certainly not "natural" to me :-P (/me is getting old)
<HaikuUser>
Well, it is a pretty standard thing. I'd say, if you even just called it "Invert" with an X and Y-axis option, that would be good enough
<HaikuUser>
Because drivers are weird and don't always work right anyways
<OscarL>
Yeah, I understand. Was just pulling your leg a little about it being labeled "natural".
<HaikuUser>
Yeah IK I think it's an oxymoron
<HaikuUser>
Like, what feels "natural" is very subjective
<HaikuUser>
But a straightforward "invert axis: X Y" seems like it would do the trick given how nerdy you gotta be to use Haiku anyways :P
<HaikuUser>
And it's to the point
<HaikuUser>
Just an objective thing
<OscarL>
I guess it does feels natural for me on a touchscreen, but certainly not on a touchpad.... oh well... we should have a setting for that, yes.
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<PC_Meister77>
Changed my username to something original i'm HikuUser
<PC_Meister77>
I need to report a couple minor bugs
<PC_Meister77>
But IG I should wait to report until Beta5?
<PC_Meister77>
Unless someone running beta5 wants to confirm...
<PC_Meister77>
It's 100% reproduceable for me and affects a core feature
<OscarL>
let me boot my "beta5" install to check it.
<PC_Meister77>
Thanks!
<PC_Meister77>
Are you a dev?
<OscarL>
just a nosy user (and small-time occasional collaborator)
<PC_Meister77>
Right on!
<PC_Meister77>
I just donated to this project, something about it just amazes me!
<OscarL>
k. booted. where are the darn bugs?!! /me readies the Raid can.
<PC_Meister77>
I'm hype for Beta5!
<PC_Meister77>
Okay, I will preface: I'm on an Intel integrated GPU running on Bare metal
<OscarL>
PC_Meister77: on behalf of those of us that can't donate... thank you!
<OscarL>
k. have another machine like that.
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<PC_Meister77>
Basically, when you take a window and tab it to another by holding OPT, then untab it holding OPT, a "ghost" of the old tab sits there and it looks like the tab is still there until you do something to repaint that part of the screen
<PC_Meister77>
I think the framebuffer isn't cleared upon the window being un-tabbed
<PC_Meister77>
for that tab's previous region
<PC_Meister77>
Oh, and I forgot to specify. This is when the second tab is active and you un-snap it holding OPT
<PC_Meister77>
Do you see this?
<OscarL>
any particular app? or just with Tracker windows?
<PC_Meister77>
Any app combo
<OscarL>
k not seeing it here. Will try the netbook with intel graphics (need to digg up a mouse first.... I have no working touchpad there).
<PC_Meister77>
Right now, I have WebPositive in tab position 1, and Vision in tab position 2, and when I un-pair tab 2, there is a phantom tab there
<PC_Meister77>
Maybe it was fixed in Beta5? Anyways, yeah, try the Intel GPU IG
<PC_Meister77>
I will say I have my Beta4 updates installed and I had this issue before updating, too
<PC_Meister77>
My GPU is a mobile KabyLake i3 Intel UHD iGPU specifically
<PC_Meister77>
(7th gen)
<PC_Meister77>
Not super new but not archaic
<OscarL>
bah... forgot this netbook iGPU graphics are not yet properly added to the intel_extreme graphics driver :-/
<botifico>
[haikuports/haikuports] pulkomandy 68ec414 - avr_gcc: update to mpfr 4
<botifico>
[haikuports/haikuports] pulkomandy db60260 - gcc-6809: update to mpfr 4
<OscarL>
couldn't find a ps/2 usb adaptor, and can't use KeyCursor for testing this.
<PC_Meister77>
Well, maybe just test on your regular beta4 and see if on the same machine it can be reproduced? I'm pretty sure Haiku doesn't use hardware acceleration for desktop rendering anyways
<PC_Meister77>
So in theory it is 100% compatible across all systems...
<PC_Meister77>
Unless I'm mistaken
* OscarL
reboots into beta4 32 bits (the one beta4 I have left)
<PC_Meister77>
OMG it takes literally 2 seconds to install on my gaming PC VM!!! XD
<PC_Meister77>
Haiku is unbelievable!
<PC_Meister77>
tested in VM with software rendering
<PC_Meister77>
it still happens
<PC_Meister77>
100% reproduceable
<PC_Meister77>
At least on Beta4
<OscarL>
See the above link. It has a small 1 MB video file that shows the problem.
<OscarL>
If what you see is similar, you can either add some comment if you have more info, or just "vote" it up.
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<PC_Meister77>
My bad, I didn't see that
<PC_Meister77>
Yeah, that's it
<OscarL>
not seeing it here on beta4 32 bits, but... I had my fare share of "why this only happens to me?" types of bugs so... :-D
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<PC_Meister77>
Interesting!
<Begasus>
g'morning peeps
<PC_Meister77>
Well, my system is basically a fresh install and I couldn't install any updates from the HaikuPorts repo so... maybe it's been fixed already?
<OscarL>
Hola Begasus.
<PC_Meister77>
Morning!
<Begasus>
Hi OscarL PC_Meister77
<Begasus>
k, radare2 done on buildmasters :)
<PC_Meister77>
Oh, the other bug I noticed is the appearance preferences does not live update when you change font sizes and fonts.
<PC_Meister77>
You can get around it by toggling anti aliasing
<PC_Meister77>
It's interesting because other apps seem to live update but not the appearance editor and only with fonts so it's likely an issue with appearance preferences
<OscarL>
I think fonts/colors do change on beta5, except for changes in ControlLook (still requires re-opening the apps).
<PC_Meister77>
Okay cool!
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<PC_Meister77>
Eh, I'm okay for now because I've gotten used to using the edges of the touchpad to scroll but I might check it out later
<PC_Meister77>
Thanks!
<PC_Meister77>
I guess the best analogy for natural scrolling in regards to two finger scrolling is "Traditional" drags the scroll bar, "Natural" scrolls the content. That's the best way to describe it if there were to be a tool tip
<PC_Meister77>
I wonder if I can get Signal Desktop to compile for Haiku?!
<PC_Meister77>
That would be cool!
<Begasus>
rings a bell ...
<OscarL>
uses electron?
<Begasus>
if so strike that :)
<PC_Meister77>
Shoot!
<PC_Meister77>
Well, there is a LibAdwaita app called Flare...
<PC_Meister77>
It isn't as feature rich
<PC_Meister77>
I guess when Beta5 gets released I could take a crack at building a UI using whatever language is native to Haiku?
<Begasus>
grab source/launch a build in Terminal ... should reveal quick enough I guess :)
<PC_Meister77>
LibSignal is OSS
<PC_Meister77>
Well, if anything it would be better to have a native UI and everything but IDK how to make GUIs so... gotta start somewhere IG! haha
<PC_Meister77>
It's too bad they use Electron instead of having a native Linux toolkit like Qt or GTK
<PC_Meister77>
LibAdwaita is pretty sexy, too!
<Begasus>
GTK is bugge (esp with characters)
<PC_Meister77>
I imagine it would need a lot of work to work right in Haiku
<Begasus>
UI wise it should be good
<PC_Meister77>
What UI language does Haiku mainly use?
* Begasus
points to OscarL
<Begasus>
I think most is done in c++
<PC_Meister77>
Oh, but there's a library, right?
<OscarL>
The C++ API that came from BeOS... BeAPI.
<PC_Meister77>
Oh, neat!
<OscarL>
libbe.so
<PC_Meister77>
Okay...
<OscarL>
Haiku has some additions/fixes on top.... like that Stack&Tile feature where you found that "ghost" issue.
<PC_Meister77>
I wonder if it would be possible to make an Electron compatibility layer so Electron apps can be ported but use WebKit instead or something
<PC_Meister77>
I mean, WebKit is pretty decent. It does seem like the non-macOS variants are kinda buggy tho
<PC_Meister77>
TBF, so is the macOS version :P
<PC_Meister77>
macOS WebKit does have an ungodly level of hardware acceleration though and is way too smooth
<PC_Meister77>
I think it chokes when it has to defer to software rendering
<OscarL>
I like when apps use electron... makes it faster for me to look for alternatives :-P
<OscarL>
Begasus: only 4 remaining "ir cmd:python3.9", weee!
<PC_Meister77>
oh man
<PC_Meister77>
Flare needs Meson and the whole meson build system is not implemented in Haiku yet
<Begasus>
got scripts to launch most of those build systems :)
<PC_Meister77>
You probably need some kind of libgtk4 or gtk4-dev package
<Begasus>
no gtk4 for Haiku
<PC_Meister77>
oh no, really?
<PC_Meister77>
Bummer!
<Begasus>
although I have a recipe for it somewhere :)
<PC_Meister77>
If we can get GTK4 that opens a lot of opportunity because GNOME has some decent apps
<Begasus>
I'm more into KDE things atm :)
<PC_Meister77>
And of course, something like Flare could obviously be forked and probably would be easier to convert to a native UI than an electron app...
<PC_Meister77>
Gotta start somewhere!
<PC_Meister77>
TBF, GNOME apps are pretty slick and devs are really taking to it.
<Begasus>
started with some GTK ones, KDE are easier and better supported
<PC_Meister77>
On Haiku, I can see it. Qt is more traditional
<Begasus>
well wxwidgets it better supported in gtk then qt fwiw :)
<PC_Meister77>
Well, I'd suspect GTK2 and Qt would be easiest but maybe I'm wrong? Not too familiar with WxWidgets
<PC_Meister77>
GTK2 tends to have that traditional and simple look and feel similar to Haiku's UI, and Qt as well
<PC_Meister77>
They're also pretty easily themed
<PC_Meister77>
NGL I really think Haiku needs an import/export button for the appearance preferences
<PC_Meister77>
Like, that would make my day, I could sit here for days making themes and then swap them constantly
<Begasus>
well, this one is still kde based (can patcch it to take haiku's style) but still :) https://0x0.st/XWSn.png
<OscarL>
"Switching to Stable/Nightly builds" on the above.
<PC_Meister77>
Thx!
<OscarL>
will probably be slow, as on beta4 downloads for updates capped at around 300/350 KB/s.
<PC_Meister77>
can I uncap it?
<OscarL>
no, that's one of the things fixed on "beta5" :-)
<PC_Meister77>
oh, okay np
<PC_Meister77>
I feel like my laptop is Y2K mode lmao
<PC_Meister77>
Looks like a bastardized Windows XP from Ikea
<PC_Meister77>
And I LOVE IT!
<PC_Meister77>
The theming is really cool but, I wish I could change the background color behind the start button specifically, and maybe the Leaf graphic, too. Some color combos have poor contrast
<OscarL>
Begasus: cmd:perl now needs to be cmd:perl$secondayArchSuffix, right?
<PC_Meister77>
Maybe if the Deskbar had its own theming options... maybe ideas for Beta6?
<OscarL>
Begasus: (context: need it for crawl's BUILD_PREREQUIRES)
<OscarL>
that leaf icon is a can of worms....
<PC_Meister77>
Is it not just a static PNG or SVG?
<OscarL>
some people still fail to see why folks thinks it looks broken (due to the *intentional* clipping) :-)
<PC_Meister77>
I mean, I kinda wondered, too :P
<OscarL>
PC_Meister77: it is a resource on the Deskbar binary, IIRC.
<PC_Meister77>
If anything, I'd like to change the color of the button behind the leaf
<PC_Meister77>
I mean, that's great and all but TBH my main concern is to just change the button color behind it so it can be colored differently than the background
<PC_Meister77>
Not that I need it, but it would be cool
<OscarL>
you can voice your concerns over the issue tracker, once you get annoyed enough by something :-)
<PC_Meister77>
Also, instead of hard coding the leaf color, you could make a B/W version with only values for the gradient and then color it by multiplying the color channels afterward
<PC_Meister77>
So it would look the same but be user customizeable
<PC_Meister77>
I'll definitely consider it
<OscarL>
lots of things are already known, just either really low prio, or as usual... dev team is really, really small.
<PC_Meister77>
That's entirely fair!
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<OscarL>
Begasus: (just in case, I'm trying to build crawl with python3.10 on 64 bits now)
<Begasus>
OscarL, haven't touched anything perl related lately
<Begasus>
+1 one down for me
<Begasus>
at the dogschool atm, so around on and off :)
<OscarL>
Alright. Enjoy the doggies :-)
<Begasus>
maybe the older nodejs can be dropped?
<Begasus>
checking qgis
<OscarL>
darn crawl eats more memory than Python while compiling (hope it doesn't crashes) :-)
<Begasus>
need to build geos for it, can't use pkgman now :P
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<Begasus>
bugger ... /sources/geos-3.11.0/include/geos/geomgraph/TopologyLocation.h:226:10: error: 'uint8_t' in namespace 'std' does not name a type; did you mean 'wint_t'?
<OscarL>
between the "featured2 and search fields, there's a checkbox and some "binary code".
<Begasus>
lol
<Begasus>
didn't know that one, wondered what it was, can't read what it says there :)
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<OscarL>
"The check-box and icon controls if packages are shown which are likely to only be of interest to developers. This includes source codes, debug information etc..."
<OscarL>
from the also ultra-visible (?) on the right
<jmairboeck>
OscarL: in case you haven't figured it out yet: perl is now secondaryArch on 32 bit, so the package is perl_x86, but cmd:perl is still just cmd:perl (like most packages where there is only one variant)
<OscarL>
jmairboeck: awesome, thank!
<OscarL>
yay! crawl finished building
<Begasus>
Hi jmairboeck :)
<Begasus>
building proj now for qgis
<OscarL>
(I almost got OOM for a bit :-D)
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<jmairboeck>
libperl is lib:libperl$secondaryArchSuffix, like usual, but only for haikuporter policy reasons, it isn't in $libDir, but somewhere in $prefix/lib/perl5/...
<jmairboeck>
and there is no corresponding devel: entry for it, as there isn't even a perl_devel package
<Begasus>
like me needing lrelease from qt6 yesterday :)
<OscarL>
"Hello, welcome to Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup 0.29.0!" guess that's enough for a smoke-test?
<OscarL>
nerdiest thinkg I've seen in my life... /me can't hit Ctrl+C fast enough :-P
<OscarL>
seems to trap that. killed it via PC.
<Begasus>
qca ...
<Begasus>
qwt ...
<Begasus>
tss :P
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<PC_Meister77>
I can't get Falkon, Otter-Browser, or LadyBird to display for some reason
<PC_Meister77>
They all hang
<PC_Meister77>
Everything else seems to work
<OscarL>
PC_Meister77: Some libraries are being reworked/updated. Those packages probably need to be rebuild.
<Begasus>
I'm not advising to switch at this moment :)
<OscarL>
I did warned them :-)
<Begasus>
already mentioned curl issue on my first checks :)
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<OscarL>
wish people used "hp -e" to extract the patchsets, or used format-patch with "-kp" options ("--keep-subject --no-stat")
<PC_Meister77>
Oh, I'm okay with WebKit TBH!
<PC_Meister77>
I just wanted to try them!
<PC_Meister77>
And TBF OscarL did warn me!
* OscarL
wants to try Firefox 128 on Haiku... on an Atom 450 netbook, with 2 GB of RAM, and laugh like a madman.
<Begasus>
laugh? :P
<OscarL>
I *did* said like a mad man.
<OscarL>
:-P
<Begasus>
was almost there also PC_Meister77, but was a bit aware as what issues there where
<Begasus>
hence staying on beta4
* OscarL
thinks of adding a "no stats on patchset" check for "hp --lint"
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<Begasus>
those sci things are always a pain in the ...
<nekobot>
[haiku/haiku] 909af08f4328 - pkggraph: merge _devel packages with their main package
<OscarL>
Begasus: nodejs14 doesn't really seems used by anything.
<OscarL>
except for "yarn" using cmd:node without specifying a version, all cmd:node users ask at least for nodejs16.
<Begasus>
k, got it grabbing qgis-3.24.3-4-x86_64.hpkg and moving it to /Opslag/haikuports/packages/qgis-3.24.3-4-x86_64.hpkg
<OscarL>
so we might also kick nodejs12 out?
<OscarL>
wee!
<Begasus>
need to be sure it's not in use :)
<Begasus>
probably should be good to nuke, only got nodejs20 installed here
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<OscarL>
"ir cmd:node" seems pretty clear at least. and yarn (from 2016) doesn't seems used by anything.
<Begasus>
runtime_loader: /boot/system/lib/libpq.so: Could not resolve symbol 'scram_SaltedPassword'
<Begasus>
hmm ... postgrsql ..
<Begasus>
nothing found with lgrep
<Begasus>
OscarL, for stuff like this I'm holding of on making changes at haikuports
<Begasus>
eg qgis in this case
<Begasus>
should have a representable system to be sure it works as expected
<OscarL>
yeah, building on beta4 not good for that ATM :-)
<Begasus>
some simple straight forward stuff isn't that bad, but still
<Begasus>
still have a few apps from KDE not checked yet :P
<OscarL>
yarn is an "any" package that installs itself under "node_modules". Guess you can't have more than one nodejs installed side-by-side?
<Begasus>
don't think so, should be installable with npm then
<OscarL>
latest yarn version 4.3.1... we have... 1.22 :-D
<Begasus>
if it's not used by anything else I guess you could drop it?
<Begasus>
heh
<OscarL>
re yarn recipe: korli giveth, korli can taketh :-P
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<OscarL>
guess he needed it for something in 2021?
<OscarL>
"To install yarn: npm install -g yarn". Sounds good enough for me to drop (like pip for Pythons, where "ensurepip" can be used instead of packaging pip ourselves).
<OscarL>
in any case, not a big deal. I just wanted to make sure we don't need node12 or node14 for it :-)
<OscarL>
this is the "not only on Begasus' machine" list: https://bpa.st/GKNQ
<Begasus>
a bit smaller and like what's upstream
<Begasus>
needs cleaning, but not sure on wether or not push the changes at this moment
<OscarL>
k, removing twisted, we can remove 5 more recipes :-)
<OscarL>
will do a PR for those as a group.
<Begasus>
+1
<Begasus>
do you take hyperlink also?
<OscarL>
yep
<Begasus>
ok, I'll have a look at the others then
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<OscarL>
was about to update qrcode (given that it has a "cmd:" at least), but has one new dep, and there are other packages without any dependency (not even pillow)
<botifico>
[haikuports/haikuports] OscarL a055654 - paramiko: drop recipe. (#10808)
<Begasus>
k, clean on projectx now :)
<OscarL>
:-D
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<andreasdr[m]>
Hi there
<Begasus>
arrr andreasdr[m] :)
* OscarL
waves some pirate flag, just in case.
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<OscarL>
crashed Tracker by hitting the Up arrow button :-/
<OscarL>
"Call (getNumAvailable() == 0)" after BPrivate::superblock::getBlock()
<Begasus>
that's what you get by messing with keymaps :P
<Begasus>
biab
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<OscarL>
Trac is acting up.
<nipos>
Hi. Does anyone know what the correct build target is when I only changed something in the Appearance preferences? Can I build that as an own package, or do I need to build a whole haiku.hpkg?
<jmairboeck>
you can just build Appearance and start it directly where it ends up in the generated directory, I think
<PulkoMandy>
Yes, just "jam Appearence" (add -q and -j as needed)
<nipos>
Ugh, I guess some day I'll have to learn working on kernel stuff :/ My AMD computer just crashed twice again trying to build Appearance preferences. And my build server just finished unpacking the LibreWolf source archive. Took only 7 hours or so 🙄
<Begasus>
woot :)
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<nipos>
Looking into the server, it does even have a empty SATA slot for a usual hard disk, that doesn't go through the RAID controller. But it doesn't have a energy cable for it in the typical form factor :/
<nipos>
As a last try, I could try using my much older HP ProLiant DL380 G6, which also has hardware RAID, but probably its RAID controller is better supported...
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<nipos>
Seems I have even less success with this one. It starts the Haiku Bootloader, but the Haiku Bootloader doesn't detect the drive to boot from. Exactly the same USB stick works perfectly fine on the other server. I already tried two different USB ports (one on the front side, one at the back side) with the same result. Anything else I can try?
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<Vidrep_64>
PulkoMandy?
<OscarL>
why sqlalchemy provides cmd:alembic? :-/
<Vidrep_64>
PulkoMandy, there are a couple or errors I found in the HaikuWebKit README.markdown for dependencies
<Vidrep_64>
python310 should be python3.10
<Vidrep_64>
curl_devel is missing
<Vidrep_64>
pywebsocket no longer exists
<Vidrep_64>
lsms2 should probably be lcms_devel
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* OscarL
playfully smacks Begasus-from-2019 in the head, for adding cmd:alembic to the wrong recipe :-)
<Begasus>
no slapping allowed ... (calls in DaaT)!
<PulkoMandy>
Vidrep_64: Should be fixed now (as well as a buildfix for openssl 3)
<PulkoMandy>
Let me know if it works, I think I'll make a new release with the latest build (before we start moving to webkit2, I think)
<Vidrep_64>
I'm currently rebuilding WebKit after making those changes to the dependencies I noted. So far, so good.
<botifico>
[haikuports/haikuports] OscarL 7cee052 - setuptools_scm: drop importlib_metadata dependency. (#10810)
<Begasus>
last one for today, closing down here
<Begasus>
cu peeps!
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<OscarL>
oh too late. Be well Begasus[m]! :-)
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<Vidrep_64>
PulkoMandy, I had to start from scratch because of your update to ssl3. So far, so good. I'll let you know either way once the build completes.
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<Vidrep_64>
PulkoMandy, Is the work you're doing on ACPIC likely to fix the issue I'm still having with disabling ACPI before booting?
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<Vidrep_64>
With ACPI enabled, and booting from a USB drive, Haiku fails to see my HDD
<PC_Meister77>
Can't get either of my Apple BLuetooth mice to connect. Tried to connect my 2007 Apple Mighty Mouse 2 and my Apple Magic Mouse 2
<PC_Meister77>
They show in the bluetooth list and their names show up. I add them but pairing I get some kind of #NameNotFound error popup window and sometimes a pin which I type 0000 as per Apple's docs
<PulkoMandy>
I don't know, I just noticed an update of acpica so I synchronized it on our side. Not a lot of changes in it, and it didn't fix getting the battery status on my laptop
<PulkoMandy>
PC_Meister77: Bluotooth is not supported currently
<PulkoMandy>
You can only list devices for now
<PC_Meister77>
Oh darn, okay!
<PC_Meister77>
That's too bad!
<PulkoMandy>
Vidrep_64: I will look at the pci/acpi changes in your ticket again, but so far I have not found ideas as to what could be wrong
<PC_Meister77>
At least I have a radio mouse...
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<Vidrep_64>
PulkoMandy, thanks for offering to take another look. All I know is that hrev53033 was working, then after updating to hrev53038 it wasn't working . The installer cannot even see the HDD anymore, even though it has Haiku installed there already.
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<Vidrep_64>
Now I have this other issue on the same PC, where the wifi takes 3 or 4 minutes to make a connection, even though the network preflet says it's "ready"
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<PC_Meister77>
What is the current R1Beta4 hrev?
<PC_Meister77>
I want to roll back to Beta4 due to some major bugs lol
<PC_Meister77>
my laptop's internal touchpad and keyboard tends to stop working randomly, especially when I use Vision IRC for some reason
<PC_Meister77>
if some one on R1Beta4 stable can look at their about haiku hrev vesion when you got time, I'd much appreciate it!
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<OscarL>
PC_Meister77: if you didn't removed the older "state" dirs from under /system/packages/administrative/, you might be able to boot into it directly from the boot loader menu.
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<OscarL>
I had some issues with mouse and keyboard after upgrading. what I did was to remove all settings files (under ~/config/settings/) related to input devices / preferences.
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<PC_Meister77>
I reverted to the earliest backup. That is so cool! Love that the system automatically backs up the system packages each transaction but separates itself from the user files! Cool!
<OscarL>
np. make sure your repos point to the right place, and/or refrain from "pkgman update" for a while, I guess :-)
<PC_Meister77>
As I learn more about the architecture of Haiku, I become very fascinated! Really neat how, for example, the disks all appear at the root level. Genius!
<PC_Meister77>
I really prefer it to the Unix/Linux way with a bespoke path where stuff is meant to be mounted
<PC_Meister77>
Seems like a very logical and user-friendly design tbh
<PC_Meister77>
I think I'm gonna update to the latest Beta4 and then only use the master haikuports branch for installing extra apps
<PC_Meister77>
If all else fails, I'll just reboot again!
<OscarL>
beware... newer stuff from HaikuPorts requires beta5 already
<OscarL>
Currently, we only have one HaikuPorts "depot" for nightlies and "stable" branches, sadly.
<PC_Meister77>
Oh, interesting
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<PC_Meister77>
It's too bad the Haikuports repo for beta4 isn't still online but frozen or something
<OscarL>
told you the team is small (infrastructure not that big too :-D)
<PC_Meister77>
That is fair!
<PC_Meister77>
I understand
<PC_Meister77>
I think it's for the better anyways... so it doesn't converge on a modern simple UX or something :P
<PC_Meister77>
There's something special about niche software projects like this
<PC_Meister77>
And with a small team with a vision for the project they're gonna do really cool things with it, and have the freedom to experiment and make mistakes.
<PC_Meister77>
There's nothing else like it currently
<OscarL>
always nice to see people enyoing Haiku :-D
<OscarL>
(sorry for my typos)
<PC_Meister77>
i don't mind it's the internet
<PC_Meister77>
I wonder if I can order a pizza on Haiku...
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<IIsi>
Ah, I missed it. Was gonna say "Yes, but only if it's seasonal.".
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<PC_Meister77>
Dang WebPositive can't handle the Dominos website :P
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<PC_Meister77>
0/10 worst desktop ever
<PC_Meister77>
where's my cheese?
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<Vidrep_64>
PulkoMandy, HaikuWebKit built successfully on 64 bit.