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<oanderso[m]> The dprintf that makes it magically work is putting one at arm64/arch_start.cpp:176 ... right after another arch_cache_enable()
<oanderso[m]> I have a suspicion that something is fishy with _arch_cache_clean_poc
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<Begasus> g'morning peeps
<coolcoder613_> Hi Begasus
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<Begasus> hi coolcoder613
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<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] pulkomandy pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/10f6d0e9d777...9e480dc9284f
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] pulkomandy 9e480dc - llvm18: restore patch that went lost on update from llvm17
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<Begasus> still some issue with ssl/Qt5: 2024-08-21 08:16:40 KERN: runtime_loader: Cannot open file libcrypto.so (needed by /boot/system/lib/libQt5Core.so.5.15.14): No such file or directory
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<oanderso[m]> waddlesplash: Looks like it was a missed dcache or pipeline flush after the final MMU twiddling in the bootloader
<oanderso[m]> I guess the dprintf just provided enough buffer to cover it up
<oanderso[m]> I can reliably get to the kernel now, or at least the kernel debugger
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<akashkumar> Hey I have successfully set up my haiku dev environment. I am looking to solve some easy tasks on media player, is there any things I need to learn before diving into the issue.
<Begasus> Hi akashkumar, glad to see you made it into the dev env :)
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<Begasus> heading from qt6 to kf6, back to gpgme to poppler ... hope this leads to something working again :)
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<Begasus> johoo!!
<Begasus> g'morning phschafft :)
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<coolcoder613> phschafft: What kind of cookies are they?
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<phschafft> normally I go with plain concookies (the type you get with a coffee)
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<phschafft> :)
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* coolcoder613 is starting to write a couple blog posts
<phschafft> oh?
<coolcoder613> One about a new retro computer I got and another about migrating to a new server
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<phschafft> what did you get? (or just link the article once posted :)
<coolcoder613> A Compaq Deskpro EN
<coolcoder613> 128MB of RAM
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<phschafft> ah, a modern one. :)
<phschafft> mine seems to be a Deskpro 5133. but there is a second one but I'm not fully sure where it currently is. (we still have that water damage going on)
<phschafft> found it, a 66M.
<phschafft> so, take good care of it. they are very nice machines.
<coolcoder613> They are indeed.
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] tqh pushed 1 commit to master [hrev57997] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=932b55644f1f+%5Eae8d7152a0d0
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 932b55644f1f - arm64/uefi: Perform MMU maintenance when TBBR1_EL1 is enabled.
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<coolcoder613> phschafft: The post is done: https://ebruce613.prose.sh/i-got-a-compaq-deskpro
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<phschafft> thank you. :)
<coolcoder613> Please tell me what you think
<phschafft> you still miss a Compaq keyboard for that machine.
<phschafft> I have a RT 102 that would go nicely with it.
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<coolcoder613> Second blog post done
<phschafft> :)
<phschafft> I'm currently working a tiny bit on SIRTX. also working on the webterm.
<coolcoder613> webterm?
<phschafft> it's a browser based terminal I worked on.
<phschafft> the idea is that I can use it to provide nice access for people to a SIRTX test instance without them needing to set up anything.
<coolcoder613> What about ssh access?
<coolcoder613> Just spinning up a small VM for each request
<coolcoder613> SImilar to this: https://github.com/nuta/kerla
<phschafft> it's much more overhead that way.
<phschafft> and this way I can provide sessions on different targets. including real hardware.
<phschafft> I don't clame that this the only solution. however it is the one that fits my workflow with most ease at this point.
<Begasus> proj_devel needs a revbump for this :)
<Begasus> problem 1: nothing provides devel:libtiff>=5.8.0 needed by proj_devel-9.3.0-1
<Begasus> strange this doesn't show up in the reports?
<phschafft> coolcoder613: I think part of it is that I feel like there is no good way yet to do anon-ssh. also that would limit you to what the ssh client supports terminal wise.
<Begasus> whoops : /sources/proj-9.3.0/test/cli/testntv2: line 93: diff: command not found
<Begasus> better :) 100% tests passed, 0 tests failed out of 61
<phschafft> :)
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<Begasus> extrowerk always knew wich one to pick :)
<Begasus> fsckn sci* recipes :P
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<Begasus> errr ... postgresql packages should have conflicts
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/9e480dc9284f...f3682921272d
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus f368292 - proj, revbump due to tiff changes (#10856)
<Begasus> one down ...
<dovsienko> coolcoder613_: it would be best to replace a CR2032 with a CR2032 because a different size cell may pop out of the holder and short-circuit the PC internals
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<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/f3682921272d...b60110e7e0a4
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus b60110e - libgcrypt, revbump, fixes error on GRND_RANDOM (#10859)
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<Begasus> PulkoMandy, waddlesplash, when checking on that getrandom patch for libgcrypt I saw a simular one done in openssl (1.1) that's not present in openssl3, not needed in openssl3?
<Begasus> well, that was for "OPENSSL_RAND_SEED_GETRANDOM"
<waddlesplash> it's not needed, yes
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<Begasus> ok, thanks :)
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<phschafft> whatever change I make, lci basically is always in the list of changes.
<phschafft> seems a shell is somehow central to an operating system...
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<Begasus> whoot, we're way behind on doxygen
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<jmairboeck> I'm currently in the process of "unbundling" the texlive_core package, i.e. splitting the external binaries that ship with it into their own recipes and removing them from texlive_core, like we did from the beginning with t1utils. There are many special case tools where not everyone will need everything. See https://github.com/jmairboeck/haikuports/tree/texlive_core
<jmairboeck> Where in haikuports would you put the binary package for gregorio? http://gregorio-project.github.io/
<jmairboeck> Gentoo doesn't have a separate package for it, they ship it as part of app-text/texlive-core (like we do currently)
<PulkoMandy> Either keep it in app-text, or if you plan to have several dozen recipes, maybe a dedicated directory for tex/latex?
<jmairboeck> gentoo had some of them before and removed them now, I think mostly in dev-tex, some of the new ones (which still exist in Gentoo) are in app-text
<jmairboeck> so I think "dev-tex" would fit best?
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<Begasus> jmairboeck, not checked, is that a binary (application) or a library?
<Begasus> or a binary but not like an application ...
<jmairboeck> that is a command line tool, "cmd:gregorio" currently part of texlive_core
<Begasus> dev-tex sounds good to me then
<jmairboeck> the runtime files are part of the "texlive_music" data package, that will not change
<Begasus> you're the master there :)
<Begasus> just did a split for the doxygen package, base and a doxygen_gui recipe now, gave the change to check out a build for Qt6 also :)
<jmairboeck> it is a bigger project than expected ...
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 1512c9d2f36a - Add the linprog headers to the haiku_devel package.
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [hrev57998] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=1512c9d2f36a+%5E932b55644f1f
<Begasus> has been from the beginning :)
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [hrev57999] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=55e018dcb8cb+%5E1512c9d2f36a
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 55e018dcb8cb - DefaultBuildProfiles: Increase nightly image size to 650MB
<Begasus> nightly image here on 64bit 3GiB, on 32bit 4GiB :)
<Skipp_OSX> heyo
<Skipp_OSX> it's for the default nightly image that we generate, the one you make yourself of course can be as large as you want.
<Begasus> some restriction it seems Skipp_OSX (and yes understood for the default image) :)
<Begasus> can't make them larger here for both arch's
<Begasus> iirc something with qemu handling
<Skipp_OSX> I complained that the bar went from green to red recently anyway when packages got updated... however, that's not why image size increased, for 3d apps crashing.
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<Skipp_OSX> meaning, we were at near capacity. A whole OS in 600MB is pretty good, I think we could probably go to 700MB and be fine it would still fit on a CD but we have to host the nightly images so I didn't want to increase our server storage requirements that much.
<Skipp_OSX> ... since every new nightly image will be that much larger
<waddlesplash> worth noting that at some point in the hopefully near future we will switch to variable fonts for Noto CJK
<Begasus> makes sense
<waddlesplash> this will save ~80MB
<Skipp_OSX> nice nice, I saw the font thread some of those fonts they were using looked pretty nice
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<waddlesplash> Begasus: did you try that second patch I sent yesterday?
<Begasus> second patch?
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<Begasus> neochat has been "uninstalled" with the full-sync yesterday, so haven't checked the logs today
<waddlesplash> oh, did the crashing stop?
<waddlesplash> after neochat was uninstalled?
<Begasus> no it's still there, have to kill the deamon after boot before I can do anything
<Begasus> just haven't re-installed "my" version for neochat :)
<waddlesplash> ok
<waddlesplash> new version of the patch, just "git checkout ..." to restore the original branch, then "git apply" this
<Begasus> jamming ... :)
<Begasus> been looking into changing some openssl references in Qt6 today, leading up to rebuilding KF6 (and things in between)
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<Begasus> reboot
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<Begasus> waddlesplash https://bpa.st/5LLQ
<waddlesplash> ... well that's not helpful
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<Begasus> doing a rebuild to make sure I didn't miss anything (did a manual patch earlier)
<waddlesplash> Begasus: wait one sec
<Begasus> err ...
<waddlesplash> apply this patch too
<waddlesplash> may give us a more intelligible error
<Begasus> can still revert (or add)
<waddlesplash> nah, don't revert
<waddlesplash> add this one in addition
<Begasus> just on top ?
<waddlesplash> yes
<Begasus> k
<Begasus> almost there with first run
<Begasus> running
<Begasus> ps, if you link the raw patch it's easier to catch with wget :) https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/raw/KqLBYtDv/daemon.patch
<waddlesplash> yeah, ok
<Begasus> reboot
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<Begasus> round* :) https://bpa.st/5UDQ
<waddlesplash> ok, getting closer
<Begasus> yeah? I'm not seeing it :D
<Begasus> all jibberish to me :D
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<Begasus> err ... Warning: POLICY WARNING: no matching provides "lib:libqt6qmlnetwork" for "lib/libQt6QmlNetwork.so.6.7.0"
<Begasus> and a few more there ...
<waddlesplash> hm wait. who's thread 211?
<waddlesplash> Begasus: are you still on this boot? can you do "ps -a | grep 211"?
<waddlesplash> Begasus: well here's another patch, anyway, also in addition
<Begasus> ~> ps -a | grep 211
<Begasus> /bin/grep --color=auto 211 2609 1 0 0
<waddlesplash> ok, but you already killed package_daemon I guess
<waddlesplash> so that's not relevant
<Begasus> thought it would be weird yes :)
<waddlesplash> Begasus: we might actually get a debug report on the desktop for package kit this time
<Begasus> jamming
<Begasus> just after boot or after killing the deamon?
<waddlesplash> after boot
<Begasus> k
<Begasus> biab
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<Begasus> nothing on the Desktop
<Begasus> nothing new atleast
<Begasus> from syslog: https://bpa.st/2NNA
<Begasus> after killing the deamon*
<waddlesplash> oh
<waddlesplash> Begasus: revert the first patch
<Begasus> err ...
<Begasus> sec :)
<waddlesplash> the first one, made to src/kits/package/manager/RepositoryBuilder.cpp
<waddlesplash> keep the others
<Begasus> so these 2 lines back enabled the others removed?
<Begasus> DIE(error, "failed to add %s packages to %s repository",
<Begasus> locationErrorName, fErrorName.String());
<waddlesplash> yes
<Begasus> got this diff now https://bpa.st/HU3A
<Begasus> so first one is reverted
<Begasus> rebuild ...
<Begasus> biab
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<Begasus> still nothing on the Desktop
<Begasus> a few ps greps: https://bpa.st/FPZQ
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<waddlesplash> what's in syslog?
<Begasus> I think I saw 195 in the "KDL" screen
<waddlesplash> it's not KDL but debugger
<Begasus> not killed (yet)
<waddlesplash> try killing Debugger
<waddlesplash> just "kill Debugger"
<waddlesplash> see if you get a crash dialog
<waddlesplash> for package_daemon
<Begasus> ow, I got the dialog window from the beginning I think (me ducks)
<Begasus> debug_server?
<waddlesplash> ?
<Begasus> did a "kill Debugger" in Terminal, nothing happend
<Begasus> it's not showing in PC
<Begasus> killing the deamon, will save a report now :)
<Begasus> err .. no crash dialog now
<waddlesplash> the crash dialog comes from debug_server
<Begasus> let me reboot again
<waddlesplash> if you kill package_daemon it will just close the window
<Begasus> biab
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<Begasus> top part was from the crash dialog, then part from syslog
<Begasus> not much in the crash log
<waddlesplash> Begasus: wait a bit longer, does the crash log grow to normal size?
<Begasus> no change in the last 6 minutes
<waddlesplash> ok
<waddlesplash> well, this still contains more info, I may be able to figure it out, let's see
<Begasus> ok, time to close down here, I'll be sure to check the logs in the morning, thanks so far!
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<Begasus> hmm looks like the deamon is still running (re-launched or still busy)?
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<Begasus> HD not responding to double-clicking a hpkg file
<waddlesplash> yes, probably need to kill the daemon
<Begasus> already did that a first time, will give it another push
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<Anarchos> Begasus still cursed ?
<Begasus> still a thread -save-report running ...
<Begasus> got a bypass for now Anarchos :)
<Begasus> atleast I can build again
<waddlesplash> OK so save-report got stuck...
<Begasus> looks like it
<waddlesplash> we need some more logic in debugger here about package daemon being stuck apparently
<waddlesplash> I'll look into it
<Begasus> 12 minutes and no change
<waddlesplash> yes it's probably stuck waiting for package_daemon
<waddlesplash> I will look into it
<Begasus> thanks
<Begasus> closing down here, cu peeps!
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 83a1e38ef1bb - Package Kit: Return better error codes from GetInstallationLocationInfo.
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 3 commits to master [hrev58000] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=69f1c57f0cc4+%5E55e018dcb8cb
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] d1d5a4b958c6 - Debugger: Catch exceptions thrown by the Package Kit.
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 69f1c57f0cc4 - Debugger: Don't query the package kit in non-interactive mode.
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<Halian> o/
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<phschafft> :)
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] pulkomandy pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-1/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/b60110e7e0a4...02c6b44d8ad8
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] pulkomandy 02c6b44 - HaikuWebKit 1.9.13
<Coldfirex> @diver: Is this still an issue on your eeepc701? https://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/16369
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<diver> Coldfirex: commented
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<Coldfirex> 10-4
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<PetePete> hi
<PetePete> just wanted to say hi. Later dudes
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