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<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/274a4769e4cb...0e1a9c775c17
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 0e1a9c7 - qtkeychain_qt6, revbump, fixes login for Tokodon gear24 (#11341)
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<Begasus> morning peeps
<MonniTheCat> morning Begasus
<Begasus> Morning MonniTheCat
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<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/0e1a9c775c17...65036e3d6142
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 65036e3 - neochat24, add missing dependency prison (#11344)
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<Begasus[m]> One hurdle less for new Tokodon :)
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<Begasus> Kate-24.12 up and running :D
<nephele_xmpp> What was the repo url for r1beta1? can we re-use this? I would like to see if we can "hijack" that url and add a slightly updated haiku version with a tool to update to beta5 directly
<MonniTheCat> Then we would need to do same for beta2...beta4 too...
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<Begasus> no ... about the icons, those haven't been patched yet :P
<Begasus> nice! using qt6multimedia now in Tokodon (instead of mpv/mpvqt), seems smoother, downloading video from within Tokodon worked nice too :D
<MonniTheCat> I still haven't decided what I play with next...
<nephele_xmpp> MonniTheCat: 1) there is only dvd for beta1 2) so what? same method can be used in that case
<Begasus[m]> can't create a DVD with R1B5 on it? Never tried, so wild guess
<MonniTheCat> I've only tried creating CD with R1B5 on it... not a DVD, but I guess it wouldn't be a lot harder...
<nephele_xmpp> Sure you can
<nephele_xmpp> but that doesnt change that we only have beta1 branded dvd
<nephele_xmpp> And making those usefull for install would be nice
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<Begasus> ah in that way :)
<Begasus> would be nice indeed if they could still be used
<MonniTheCat> A lot of new PCs don't have optical drive, but there is still some PCs and laptops that have them...
<Begasus> still got over 2 months to prepare something for that nephele_xmpp :)
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<Begasus> k, out to dogschool
<Begasus> cu l8r
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<san2ban> Hi...in Haikudepot, for package 'Medo' it is remarked that it is 'excusively built for Haikuos"...but it does not carry a 'native' application remark...why is this?
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<Begasus> re
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<begasus> who pulled the plug?
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<begasus> g'morning OscarL
<OscarL> Good day (lowercased) begasus!
<begasus> arghhh! :P
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<Begasus> better, thanks :)
<OscarL> Looking better already!
<Begasus> what's up for today?
<OscarL> need to tweak a bit one PR for Pe, after korli's suggestions.
<Begasus> finetuning then :)
<OscarL> right now, looking around to see if we can just drop the older version of "libnatpmp".
<OscarL> "waiting for build package [...] to be deactivated" :-(
<Begasus> deactivated? unmout issue?
<OscarL> noup. clean build after just booting up. just that darn packagefs/haikuporter bug.
<OscarL> I see it more often on 32 bits, for some reason.
<Begasus> I guess you mean "activated" then?
<OscarL> no, "deactivated".
<Begasus> haven't seen that too much, and mostly triggered by myself :)
<OscarL> worked fine after "hp -c torrentor_x86" (previous build was also "clean", as work-dirs are in RAM, and I had just booted up).
<OscarL> mmm, another app_server crash :-/
<OscarL> something's up with using the VMware driver on newer VirtualBox. (used to work pretty well, I might have some weird setting on this new VM file).
<nephele_xmpp> san2ban: the native checkbox is very new
<nephele_xmpp> you can report this issue on haikuports
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<OscarL> he quit long a go nephele_xmpp.
<OscarL> (using Vision, so unless he reads the logs... :-D)
<Begasus> Medo is "build" for Haiku, it isn't exclusive for Haiku though :)
<Begasus> me thinks*
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<nephele_xmpp> It is exclusive for haiku
<nephele_xmpp> doesn't work on any other OS
<Begasus> OK, my bad then, but I'm not sure how we could handle this on haikuports side, isn't that something done at the depot side?
<OscarL> k, we can drop old libnatpmp version. Transmission is the only one using it, and already uses the newer one (the only one available on depot)
<Begasus> +1
<OscarL> I had some WIP on making Torrentor! use that lib too (instead of its embedded copy), but that can wait.
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<OscarL> I'm starting to think that my frequent context-menus related Tracker crashes are due to the right button microswitch being "noisy" (guess it doesn't has proper debouncing)
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<OscarL> dilema is... do I change said microswitch to avoid crashes, or leave it be, to reveal those Tracker issues? :-)
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-2/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/65036e3d6142...e4ad7bc537d3
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] OscarL e4ad7bc - libnatpmp: remove older (unused) recipe. (#11346)
<Begasus[m]> torrentor should be good OscarL?
<OscarL> good enough to download the beta5 isos at least.
<OscarL> not perfect, but at least it is a native client.
<OscarL> maybe having it available can make it gain some new contributor to fix remaining issues :-)
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<Begasus> okido :)
<OscarL> LOL, I just found an "Accidental Click Removal" input_server filter addon I wrote in 2004 :-D
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-1/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/e4ad7bc537d3...a425e462842f
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] OscarL a425e46 - torrentor: update to latest commit, and enable recipe. (#11343)
<OscarL> will have to try it to see if it is any good :-)
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<nipos> Is it somehow possible to have a language selection in my app (which has always been there) when switching to LocaleKit instead of some custom translation engine?
<nipos> I rewrote the whole thing to make use of the LocaleKit everywhere and it works fine when simply using the system language.But if I try B_CATALOG->SetTo("App signature", "custom language"),the B_CATALOG->InitCheck() fails with B_NO_INIT afterwards.Without the ->SetTo() call,the InitCheck works fine
<nipos> Are there any apps I can check as example that use LocaleKit and allow overwriting the system language?
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<Begasus> nipos, I guess at haikuarchives there should be plenty, or at least some that use the LocaleKit?
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<nipos> Yes, and that helped me a lot at implementing basic LocaleKit usage with only the system language. But I don't know any that allows to change the language in the applications own settings, to use a different language than the system.
<Begasus[m]> Ah, as in changing the language in the application itself, not sure if that's possible
<Begasus[m]> perhaps it could be done, but haven't really an answer on one that is already using it
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<OscarL> nipos: perhaps some of the tests under https://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/tree/src/tests/kits/locale/ has something you can use?
<OscarL> LanguageTest.cpp and StringFormatTest.cpp in particular, I think?
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<nipos> Thanks. I'm away currently, will check later/tomorrow
<nipos> I have the stuff I currently try from FirstBootPrompt, but for me it somehow doesn't work
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<HaikuUser> what's the default ip server for poorman?
<Begasus> localhost?
<nephele_xmpp> What is an ip server...?
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<Begasus> :)
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<OscarL> k, running my mouse filter addon now. Let's see if it helps prevent some crashes :-D
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<nephele_xmpp> :D
<Begasus> provided the add-on doesn't crash :)
<OscarL> Darn codeberg.org is too slow (hangs) from down here :-/. I really need to get my own Forgejo instance going.
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* Begasus thinks karma :P
<Begasus> knocks on wood* :)
<OscarL> Don't make me send you another libz!
<Begasus> got the firewall setup for that :P
<OscarL> Behold! https://codeberg.org/OscarL/ACRFilter (kinda crazy that I had a similar issue 20 years ago :-D)
<OscarL> No crashes back then, just unwanted clicks.
<Begasus[m]> hmm ... got that too sometimes, but it's rather me then a mouse problem :P
* OscarL needs to stop "Open with..." being filled with binaries from unrelated installs or Haiku builds. Sigh.
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<Begasus> can be annoying too
<Begasus> previous: 77% tests passed, 10 tests failed out of 43
<Begasus> now all pass! :D
<OscarL> makes zero sense to even show binaries from 64 bits on 32 and viceversa.
<OscarL> Begasus: you fixed 10 tests? Way to go! :-)
<OscarL> from what recipe are those results, Begasus?
<Begasus> yea! (don't even know how though) :D
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<Begasus> kpublictransport
<OscarL> kTrain or kBus? :-P
<Begasus> Ktrip or Itinerary :P
<Begasus> Itinerary has them all (or should) :)
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<OscarL> "BPoseView::DrawOpenAnimation()" I don't remember any animation in Tracker.
<Begasus> workign up to kosmindoormap
<Begasus> s/workign/working
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<erysdren> good morning
<jochwehg> good evening
<phschafft> mau.
* jochwehg GMT +1
<Begasus> good * to all of you
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<jochwehg> wow, there are avatars here.
<Begasus> avatars?
<OscarL> avatars in Vision? you sure?
<Begasus> probably using matrix or the likes?
<OscarL> Begasus: nah, they're using Vision :-)
* jochwehg using vision,
<Begasus> didn't see them walking in OscarL :)
* jochwehg hast not seen graphical avatars, words only
<Begasus> k, local 24.08.0 packages updated to 24.11.80
<Begasus> emoji's?
<jochwehg> :==)
<jochwehg> hm, I see asccii
<OscarL> no clue wht jochwehg means :-) nicknames perhaps? In any case... welcome!
<jochwehg> yeah, that's what it is: nicks., greetings
* OscarL waves to erysdren too :-)
<erysdren> howdy!
<erysdren> been a while since i've been on, how's everyone doing?
<Begasus> welcome jochwehg, first time exploring Haiku
<Begasus> busy as usual erysdren :) how has it been there?
<Begasus> 100% tests passed, 0 tests failed out of 5
<OscarL> erysdren: not great, not terrible. Can't complain (much :-P). Hope you're OK too :-)
<Begasus> gotta love it :)
<jochwehg> @Begasus: thanks for the askin. I am lurking around for 2 yrs now
<Begasus> ah, a bit familiar then :)
<jochwehg> not quite, because I find myself very limited still on the haiku
<jochwehg> still running from the stick
<jochwehg> in live mode
<Begasus> depending on the needs, much can be done
<jochwehg> true true
<Begasus> ah, not much space left to play around then :)
<jochwehg> abillities and learning, yes space: you name it
<jochwehg> I manovered to some dense little corner, called an IGEL thins client
<jochwehg> with only 4GB hard disk so far
<Begasus> at least a bit more, but still limited space
<jochwehg> I like that this whole thing runs so well, that*s the reason I kept it
<Begasus> +1
<erysdren> im doing good, just trying to work on my videogame projects. i was meaning to compile a build for Haiku when the game came out, but i forgot...
<erysdren> maybe i'll do it today.
<jochwehg> When BeOS was coming I had difficulties to get a 486 with anoufh RAM
<jochwehg> then I found this project, I became romantically
<Begasus> most of us have been there, and stayed around :)
<jochwehg> great!!, and interessting too
<Begasus> some patches I don't even know why I added them, for kmime: + set(_kmime_extra_libs network) doesn't fail without now
<jochwehg> now, after 2 yrs, I see a lot of ports come the way
<OscarL> good luck on your endeavours, and wish you can keep more focused than I can :-) (keep jumpring from one thing to another, as usual... sigh...)
<OscarL> erysdren ^^^
<jochwehg> @Begasus: this really comes for the techies who reads sources and headers and stuff
<Begasus> good thing I'm not a techie :D
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<erysdren> oh dang, i didnt even realize that Kate was ported
<erysdren> that's my fav text/code editor on linux
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<OscarL> bah, had another Tracker crash even with my super duper ACRFilter :-/
<Begasus> erysdren, the one from KF5 has been around for a long time, the screenshot from here are the latest beta for KF6
<erysdren> ahhh
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<Begasus> erysdren, didn't patch them for the icons yet though (got that patch from previous version)
<OscarL> (I might need to just switch to nightlies' Tracker on beta5 to avoid so much crashes)
<Begasus> some don't like those KDE icons :)
<Begasus> has fixes for that OscarL?
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<OscarL> yep, Skipp_OSX had merged a few bugfixes for Context Menu related crashes.
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<OscarL> I think I'll just put a nigthlies's libtracker.so under non-packaged... I *think* that shouldn't affect haikuports builds, right?
<Begasus> as long as there is no -ltracker involved in a build I guess not :)
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<OscarL> yeah, that would be my intention. stuff will still link to libtracker.so under develop/ comming from the beta5 package.
<OscarL> (ideally)
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<Begasus> k, all 24.08.2 local ones updated too
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<OscarL> mmm, why Tracker and Deskbar loaded /boot/system/libtracker.so, but Terminal does loads the one from non-packaged? :-/
<OscarL> mount_server also loaded libtracker.so from non-packaged.
<Begasus> living on the edge are we? :P
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<OscarL> I just want less crashes. I get too distracted without them already :-)
<Begasus> heh
<OscarL> even stopping and restarting both Deskbar and Tracker with launch_roster... they still load libtracker.so from system :-(
<OscarL> I guess I could blacklist it, but then recipes requiring -ltracker won't work. Sigh.
<Begasus> tell them to stop doing that!
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<augiedoggie> i have thought about testing the "freshens" feature of packages to replace components but i'm not sure if it's fully implemented
<augiedoggie> to replace the stock libtracker or Deskbar or ...
<OscarL> (LD_PRELOAD did the trick)
<OscarL> still quite annoying.
<Begasus> what if Tracker crashes now? ;)
<OscarL> augiedoggie: that sounds interesting. Currently, nothing prevents files with the same path/name for being "overloaded" from a package loaded later, right?
<augiedoggie> yes, but the order isn't guaranteed
<OscarL> (but one has no real control over the order packages are loaded)
<OscarL> Begasus: We'll see. Too bad that now I need to stop Tracker/Deskbar, and restart them with LD_PRELOAD from UserBootScript, so I don't forget.
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<Begasus> K done :)
<Begasus> Can't find a connection to you OscarL :) https://0x0.st/XdM8.80.png
<OscarL> told you I live in the middle of nowhere :-P
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<Begasus> heh
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<Begasus[m]> pulling the plug here
<Begasus[m]> cu peeps!
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<WoC`> anyone who built eggdrop (1.8.4) in haiku ?
<OscarL> not seeing anthing for "eggdrop" on HaikuPorts at least, WoC`.
<OscarL> WoC`: we have the minimum requirements covered at least (tcl, openssl, python, zlib)
<WoC`> ok, thanks. I guess i will have to see for myself, when i get the bridge
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<WoC`> it would be from source anyhow
<OscarL> just make sure to install the "_devel" packages for openssl3 / tcl / libz (python3.10 already contains the headers and such)
<WoC`> ok, ty
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<mmu_man> captive portal support WIP https://m.g3l.org/@mmu_man/113499477285450750
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<WoC`> gcc is preinstalled, right ?
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<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] mmuman pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/a425e462842f...28271305d730
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] mmuman 2827130 - bsnow: bump revision; should fix non gcc2 arch
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<OscarL> WoC`: it should, unless you uncheched it at install time (for betas at least). if not... "pkgman install gcc gcc_syslib"
<OscarL> *gcc:syslibs
<OscarL> *gcc_syslibs (darn it!)
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<OscarL> mmm, got a different Tracker crash even with nigtlies' libtracker.so. General protection fault on a BLooper this time. :-/
<OscarL> (MouseDragger() / DragMessage() involved still)
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<WoC`> k, ty. just checking
<WoC`> @OscarL
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<OscarL> how can i detect if I'm using 64 or 32 bits x86 in Jam? I see $(OSPLAT), but that only gives "X86" :-/
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<WoC`> that should be 32
<WoC`> vs x86-64/amd64
<OscarL> not my call... that's what Jam returns for OSPLAT.
<OscarL> any way... I think I found a (stupid) workaround.
<OscarL> jam makes me like makefiles.
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<OscarL> I finally have "generated.x86_64" / "generated.x86_32" separated dirs for Pe from a single repo.
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [hrev58333] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=edac63079f53+%5E9bb1816c14e5
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] edac63079f53 - BFS: Be explicit about blocks_per_ag field meaning
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<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes pushed 2 commits to master [+1/-1/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/28271305d730...aac8382f6a9b
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] hfsfox cc91494 - i2pd: bump version
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] hfsfox aac8382 - i2pd: bump version
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<OscarL> both 32 and 64 bits buildmaster are down. right after my Torrentor! PR got merged... I can already see Begasus[m] blaming me for that tomorrow :-P
<MonniTheCat> Begasus can be mean sometimes... But that's not common ;)
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