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<secondcreek> coolcoder613_: neat :)
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<secondcreek> Another morning; What will the day promise me? Night. It is over.
<secondcreek> Thought I'd post a haiku I wrote in #Haiku :)
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<Begasus[m]> morning peeps
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<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/49f390191f74...19573cdf2d45
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Peppersawce 19573cd - Another attempt at fixing ECWolf on buildmasters (#11304)
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<Anarchos> Hello
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* Anarchos is considering to mess up with UserBuildConfig to debug the net boot .
<Begasus> hi Anarchos
<Anarchos> Begasus: hello !
<Begasus> got progress on building netboot?
<Anarchos> Begasus: i am still wondering why my rtl81xx driver (device_manager style, not legacy_driver) is not loaded...
<Begasus> no idea there :)
<Anarchos> Begasus: but i did'nt work on that this we (i spent all mty we to sleep, literally)
<Begasus> won't get anything done sleeping Anarchos :)
<Begasus> debugging a bit in KDE stuff here
<Begasus> well debugging * :)
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<Anarchos> Begasus: sure, but i need to rest too :) Anything done if i am too tired !
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<Begasus> 100% tests passed, 0 tests failed out of 16
<Begasus> nice previous run was %80 :)
<Begasus> right Anarchos, can't progress without needed brakes :)
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<Begasus> kitinerary from 77% tests passed, 10 tests failed out of 43 to 98% tests passed, 1 tests failed out of 45
<Begasus> :)
<Anarchos> Begasus: i look at history of NetBootArchive file (defintion of what ends up in the haiku image) and all seem fine since my commit for netboot, so the culprit is elsewhere)
<MonniTheCat> Gotta keep everything in sync, even if 99% of the people don't use something...
<MonniTheCat> I'm still reading the sources trying to trace the differences between device_manager and legacy_driver drivers...
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<Anarchos> MonniTheCat: there are all docs pages and discussion about that (look in discuss.haiku-os.org)
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<Begasus> weird: KERN: runtime_loader: Cannot open file libudev.so.1 (needed by /boot/system/lib/libQt6Core.so.6.7.2): No such file or directory
<Begasus> we don't have libudev, how is this involved?
<Begasus> looking with readelf -d on the Qt library doesn't show it, running it on /bin/itinerary doesn't show it also
<augiedoggie_> Qt uses dlopen() to load some libraries, i get the same messages for dbus since i don't have it installed but Qt still tries to load it
<Begasus> yeah, gathered that augiedoggie_, solved a dep earlier for a library not listed in a recipe
<Begasus> but there isn't any libudev (iirc it's something from systemd)
<Begasus> got some hits with lgrep on udev but that's all
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<augiedoggie_> i see a bunch of references in their repo
<Begasus> something with libQt5SerialPort.so ?
<augiedoggie_> dunno, most of the references i see are about input devices and device discovery
<Begasus[m]> so it defently comes from there ... not breaking my head on it for now, need to step out in a bit
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<Anarchos> Begasus[m]: you can also look for '-ludev' (linking argument to gcc for linking)
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<Begasus[m]> I know Anarchos :) no such thing on Haiku
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<MonniTheCat> Begasus: Sometimes those kind of things should be patched out just to keep people from reporting things that will likely not be implemented...
<Begasus[m]> I'm not touching Qt6 if not directly needed Mika Lindqvist :P
<MonniTheCat> Begasus[m]: Me neither... Qt4 is last one I use without getting paid...
<Begasus[m]> heh
<Begasus[m]> if it was only a quick -DUSE_UDEV I wouldn't mind, but this is way beyond that :)
<MonniTheCat> Begasus[m]: Some things designed for Qt 4 can be compiled against Qt 5 with minimal changes, but some things just fail because things got removed...
<Begasus[m]> not going with Qt5 if not need be, moving on (Qt 6.8.1) is already around (or almost iirc)
<MonniTheCat> Begasus[m]: I move on if there is something interesting, but so far some stuff only works on Linux, so not gonna bother... Whole Qt was supposed to be portable, but not all third-party plugins are...
<MonniTheCat> Been patching tons of libraries so they compile on both gcc 6.5 and latest gcc/clang...
<Begasus[m]> I just pretend to know what I'm doing :P
<MonniTheCat> Begasus[m]: Me too... A lot easier when I have backups of my stuff on SourceForge and/or GitHub... I can always go back to old version if something fails hard...
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<Begasus> right :)
<MonniTheCat> Begasus: Can't learn anything new if things don't crash while experimenting...
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<Begasus> right, as with the PR for kio6, seemed fine, but needs further testing if it's really fixed in KF6 or not
<MonniTheCat> Begasus: Sometimes I think if I should post multiple recipes in single PR, just so it's easier to test if something is really fixed or that there is no regressions...
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<Begasus> need to see if I can rebuild the recipe for okular on KF6 tomorrow, copy/paste between dolphin (KF6) and okular (KF5) crashed dolphin, so maybe not a good idea to leave that part out
<Begasus> lol ... KERN: runtime_loader: Cannot open file libc.so.6 (needed by /boot/system/lib/python3.10/lib-dynload/_ctypes.cpython-310.so): No such file or directory
<Begasus> Don't tell OscarL :)
<MonniTheCat> Begasus: I can't even build recipes, as haikuporter wants to downgrade packages between builds and some packages are not on HaikuPorts... Keeps going between +113, +122 and +125 and different openssh versions...
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<Begasus> why is that? there is only one openssh package?
<MonniTheCat> Begasus: IDK... haikuporter just does something weird when it tries to parse all recipes... Tried to clear the cache, but it recreates bad dependency infos again...
<Begasus> never happened to me, only thing causing it would be a recipe setting some hard hrev version, but those should be avoided
<augiedoggie_> maybe a wrong architecture in the haikuports.conf or something
<Begasus> that's an option too, but I wouldn't know how to generate that :)
<Begasus> food! bbl :)
<MonniTheCat> augiedoggie_: It worked with same config before r1beta5 got new commits... when it was still +122...
<augiedoggie_> but haikuporter shouldn't be doing any downgrading of packages, i'm not sure what you mean by that
* augiedoggie_ needs to head off to work for now
<MonniTheCat> augiedoggie_: It does try to downgrade several _devel packages instead of trying to rebuild dependencies...
<augiedoggie_> are you using --get-dependencies with haikuporter?
<MonniTheCat> augiedoggie_: Tried both with and without it...
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<secondcreek> Is BeShare not availabe on 64 bit?
<secondcreek> duh NM... I was only looking at the 'featured' tab
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 7 commits to master [hrev58295] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=7190c0f1173a+%5E592a3b6921f1
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 30179dd32617 - libroot: add reallocarray() from POSIX.1-2024
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 11cd4af6e1db - kernel/libroot: add pipe2() from POSIX.1-2024
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 966076b2733c - kernel/libroot: add dup3() from POSIX.1-2024
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 6beff0d1633e - kernel/libnetwork: add accept4() from POSIX.1/2024
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 8b5cc9cf52bc - libroot: move memmem for POSIX.1/2024
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 7a4e12b7b8ec - libroot: add ptsname_r for POSIX.1/2024
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 7190c0f1173a - libroot: add tcgetwinsize() and tcsetwinsize() for POSIX.1/2024
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<Begasus> secondcreek, you can also search in Terminal with "pkgman search beshare" :)
<secondcreek> thx. I did not see the 'All Packages' tab. :)
<B2IA> (chaosDNA) test
<secondcreek> it woiks
<Begasus> :)
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<Begasus[m]> closing down here
<Begasus[m]> cu peeps!
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<B2IA> (chaosDNA) CMake Error: CMake was unable to find a build program corresponding to "Unix Makefiles".
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<B2IA> (chaosDNA) I'm rusty, been 17 years since i compiled in this environment
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<B2IA> (AGMS) chaosDNA, for native projects there's the Makefile Engine (a skeleton makefile you can edit), which uses classic make, not cmake. Jam is used for compiling the system.
<B2IA> (chaosDNA) this is a command line tool that I want to use in Haiku
<B2IA> (AGMS) Then there's the choice of which compiler, gcc-95, current gcc, current gcc for 64 bits.
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<B2IA> (AGMS) There is a cmake package available, "pkgman search cmake""
<B2IA> (chaosDNA) i have it installed.
<B2IA> (AGMS) cmake installs OK, runs with no input and just lists options.
<B2IA> (AGMS) Ah, that's a module for cmake to make Unix standard makefiles. There are some optional modules you can install, might be one of them.
<B2IA> (AGMS) Though it says it is available already.
<B2IA> (chaosDNA) thx, I will dive into it after work.
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<Skipp_OSX> gcc 2.95 but I like the gxx '95 moniker to describe it.
<Skipp_OSX> (even though it came out in 1999)
<secondcreek> hm, the llvm* libs are not downloading.
<secondcreek> NM duh! not enough disk space
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<B2IA> (chaosDNA) yea
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 53728117bc0c - SCSI: Reset flags on the correct request in submit_autosense.
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 3 commits to master [hrev58296] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=6101e7493217+%5E7190c0f1173a
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] c16f375b9292 - SCSI: Minor cleanups.
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 6101e7493217 - SCSI: Remove unused sim_priv fields.
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<Skipp_OSX> we have SCSI support? Who knew?
<Skipp_OSX> (I guess SATA is basically SCSI so maybe that's what it is)
<Anarchos> ah i finally managed to net boot :)
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<Anarchos> Skipp_OSX i knew :)
<Anarchos> wee also have a native remote desktop protocol (and net boot)
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<Anarchos> Begasus[m] it worked :)
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] a2694db75172 - kernel/slab: Check both pressure and min_object_reserve before returning slabs.
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 3 commits to master [hrev58297] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=105f00f76828+%5E6101e7493217
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 02857568c931 - kernel/slab: Use final keyword.
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 105f00f76828 - SCSI: Use an object_cache for the scatter/gather pool.
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<secondcreek> any experimental drivers available for laptop trackpads?
<Anarchos> waddlesplash i could finally get net boot again !
<waddlesplash> nice :)
<Anarchos> waddlesplash but only for 32
<Anarchos> when i try to serve a 64bits haiku image with remote_disk_server, i got a lot of 'load_module_image(...) failed : Not an executable.
<Anarchos> i suspect the netboot archive has only a 32 bits runtime_loader ?
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<Anarchos> as there is only pxe_ia32 but no pxe_ia64 ?
<waddlesplash> maybe, idk
<waddlesplash> the PXE bootloader may not support loading 64-bit kernels, sure
<Anarchos> waddlesplash do you think it could be easy to add ?
<waddlesplash> no idea, haven't looked
<Anarchos> waddlesplash ok. anyway, i will do my pull request in the week to update the NetBootArchive/tarfs.cpp with my modifications
<Skipp_OSX> what if I have more than 16 Exabytes of RAM :)
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<Monni> Hehe... got KDL when package_daemon did commit harakiri... tried to uninstall itself...
<Anarchos> Skipp_OSX i think you can benefit from using 64bits even if you don't have more than 4Gb , isn't it ?
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<Skipp_OSX> of course, I was kidding
<Skipp_OSX> My joke was say that there's no practical reason to have a pxe_ia64 since PXE on AMD64 would be kind of silly atm
<Anarchos> Skipp_OSX why .
<Anarchos> Skipp_OSX i tried to net boot a haiku x64, and it seems i can't :(
<Skipp_OSX> because it is impractical to have a system with more than 16eb of RAN
<Skipp_OSX> RAM
<Skipp_OSX> yeah you're request is much more reasonable but you don't really mean pxe_ia64 just regular x86_64 without pxe
<Skipp_OSX> but you can't have that either bc idk
<Anarchos> Skipp_OSX i mean i want a netboot loader able to net boot a Haiku x64 image
<Anarchos> which seems legitimate to me.
<Skipp_OSX> yeah what you meant is legit
<Skipp_OSX> (just not what you said)
<Anarchos> pxe_ia64 just mentions the architecture, not the size of ram . I don't get your point
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<Monni> ia64 means Itanium, not x86_64 aka AMD64 ;)
<Anarchos> Monni oh you mean i should have written 'haiku_loader.pxe_x64'
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [hrev58298] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=44d5b89d6641+%5E105f00f76828
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 44d5b89d6641 - bootloader: Fetch and display the size of the partition, if possible.
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<Skipp_OSX> oh nvm then
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<augiedoggie_> ugh
* augiedoggie_ is tempted to force push a commit on that "forefix" PR and rename it to BeZilla
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<MonniTheCat> augiedoggie_: Just do it... We need good drama/horror...
<MonniTheCat> * augiedoggie_: Just do it... We need good drama/horror...
<augiedoggie_> the majority of people that responded to the forum poll wanted bezilla
<MonniTheCat> Can't get any worse... We got our first hurricane here in over 100 years...
<augiedoggie_> i'm joking about pushing a commit to the PR, but i still might leave a message about it, i can't stand that name
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<MonniTheCat> augiedoggie_: I wasn't joking...