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<OscarL>
waddlesplash: just in case... regarding "+/8565": my poor attention spans (on top of my poor coding skills) is why I haven't submitted something better :-)
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<HaikuUser>
henlo
<OscarL>
I really, really, appreciate your work, and specially your commitment to proper fixes. But I still think that incremental improvments beats perfect solutions than no-one has the time or skills to submit.
<OscarL>
Hello HaikuUser!
<OscarL>
You can use a custom user name by typing: /nick MyNewUserName
<OscarL>
(change "MyNewUserName" for something you like)
HaikuUser is now known as SuperDarke
<SuperDarke>
Good evening
<OscarL>
That seems to have worked fine. Good evening (nighte for me) SuperDarke!
<OscarL>
Sorry for my typos (and generally poor "English". It is self-taught, and I'm a terrible typist :-D)
<SuperDarke>
No problemo comrade
<OscarL>
:-)
<SuperDarke>
How are things in Haiku land?
<OscarL>
Not that bad! Filed a ticket for a bug... submitted a lame fix for it... had worse days :-D
<OscarL>
how about you SuperDarke? Enyoing your Haiku day?
<SuperDarke>
I am, so far
<SuperDarke>
It's quite pretty
<SuperDarke>
And it's the weekend now :)
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<OscarL>
always nice to hear! (about people enyoing both Haiku, and the weekend :-P)
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<AlienSoldier>
humm, let see if my kdl at boot is related to change in the virtual memory file persisting over reboot. I disabled vm and will now try to reboot.
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<AlienSoldier>
waddlesplash bypassed the assert panic by typing 2 time "continue" in KDL, still annoying that said.
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<AlienSoldier>
i think yt-dlp lack a "enter" at the end of the script, at least it return the terminal to prompt when i press enter.
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<AlienSoldier>
i did not even know this existed, i must admit it i just can't keep up with "stuff" anymore!
<Begasus[m]>
We already have the one from gear23 working, always had trouble login in with the one from gear24, nice if upstream is working together with us. 👍
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<nephele_xmpp>
hi oscarl
<OscarL>
morning nephele_xmpp :-)
<Begasus[m]>
Moin nephele_xmpp
<nephele_xmpp>
my new laptop with bootman is giving issues :(
<nephele_xmpp>
OscarL: regarding nicks + matrix: you can register common names on the irc side and the bridge will translate it to your matrix nick on the matrix side without any indication this is happening
<nephele_xmpp>
so you can join a matrix room abd set your irc nick to "it" or "the" and fuck everything up
<nephele_xmpp>
but hey, matrix said that *also* isn't a vulnerability ;)
<OscarL>
problems with bootman persist even after re-installing it?
<nephele_xmpp>
I had reinstalled it befote posting that message, so i think so
<OscarL>
:-(
<nephele_xmpp>
I'm wondering if my partitions need to be aligned somehow but aren't
<OscarL>
nah... I had used all kind of weird partitions layouts with BootMan on my main disk without issues.
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<nephele_xmpp>
I don't know where the error of "error loading sectors" comes from but the error immidientaly after that is the firmware saying no boot disk found press a key etc
<nephele_xmpp>
So maybe the bios is doing something wierd too
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<nephele_xmpp>
other than that I could try installing the linux i wanted and see if grub can boot it?
<nephele_xmpp>
OscarL: maybe reinstall the normal bootloader and set "Haiku" as active and see if that works atleast
<nephele_xmpp>
I have my dvd handy so can always restote
<OscarL>
can't hurt, I guess. *maybe* "dd" the first couple of megabytes of the partitions that give you problesm before reinstalling?
<botifico>
[haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes 274a476 - Telegram: bump version
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<nephele_xmpp>
begasus: wdym by that?
<nephele_xmpp>
HaikuUser: irc client
<Begasus>
NeoChat in current development is crashiing quite often, upstream is trying to get into fixing it
<nephele_xmpp>
Ah okay. well apart from crashing it has many UI edgecases and other major UI breaking things :/
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<Begasus>
that's another thing :) having it up and running stable is my main priority :)
<nephele_xmpp>
It was very frustrating to use for me
<Begasus[m]>
Good thing there are alternatives then
<nephele_xmpp>
that said, I would be fine with picking neochat as one matrix client we kinda support and leaving the others for nlw
<nephele_xmpp>
the library behind it libquotient i do know, and we also met the devs so seems fine :)
<Begasus>
one thing I love from upstream, they are pretty co-operative, the maintainers of libquotient do work well together with neochat maintainers :)
<Begasus>
I think you had an issue on signed (or something, can't remember) attatchements?
<Begasus>
this is checked with the new libquotient now
<nephele_xmpp>
i know kitsune (the libquotient maintainer) for a quite long time now since i used to debug quaternion, and i was listed as a libquotient maintainer myself when i had a github acc still :)
<Begasus>
right :)
<nephele_xmpp>
the var for "netbook mode" we should probably hardcode in the matrix port
<nephele_xmpp>
if you tell me what it is i could try making a patch for it
<Begasus[m]>
haven't seen that yet?
<nephele_xmpp>
wasnt there some low power mode env or something?
<Begasus[m]>
let me check :)
<Begasus>
can't seem to find anything on a quick search in settings
<Begasus>
grepping the source for "netbook"
<Begasus>
nothing
<nephele_xmpp>
i mean like a kirigami environment variable
<nephele_xmpp>
or kde/qt specific
<Begasus>
ah!
<Begasus>
that was primary for Tokodon/Kasts/PlasmaTube, don't think it infects NeoChat
<Begasus>
export KIRIGAMI_LOWPOWER_HARDWARE=1
<Begasus>
got that in my profile, but am launching NeoChat from menu/Tracker
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<Hanicef[m]>
Note to self: do not build haiku on an intel celeron t3000 cpu
<Hanicef[m]>
It took 7 hours for the build to complete
<Begasus>
that's only the first time :)
<Hanicef[m]>
I know, but still, that took an absurdly long time
<Begasus>
OK, disabling the notifications in NeoChat works better (no crashes for a while)
<Begasus>
try building qtwebengine ... texlive ... webkit Haiku is using :)
<Hanicef[m]>
No thanks, at least not on this machine :v
<Begasus>
iirc correctly for Texlive it took more then a full day, and that was native (no VM) build :)
<Hanicef[m]>
Which cpu?
<Begasus>
- correctly :D
<Begasus>
Ryzen7
<Begasus>
8 cores/16 threads :)
<Hanicef[m]>
5000 series?
<Begasus>
yep
<jmairboeck>
texlive only takes so long because it is so damn big, and there is no actual build involved, essentially just extracting, moving files around and packaging them again
<Hanicef[m]>
I have a ryzen 5 5950x at home, and it builds haiku from scratch pretty fast
<Begasus>
hi jmairboeck :)
<jmairboeck>
and running a few scripts
<Begasus>
that's our texlive guy now :)
<Hanicef[m]>
It's a pretty big difference between that and an intel celeron, though
<Begasus>
right there Hanicef[m]
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<Begasus>
wb OscarL
<Hanicef[m]>
I mean, i can try once i get home
<nephele_xmpp>
extracting moving files and packaging? sounds like something tailored to the way packages work could be considerably faster
<OscarL>
Begasus: thanks :-) Needed a (long) nap.
<nephele_xmpp>
extract in memory and add to the respective package directly, skipping the write to disk and move
<OscarL>
Torrentor! PR got merged, nice!
<jmairboeck>
nephele_xmpp: maybe we wouldn't actually need to run the installer. IIRC Linux from Scratch directly extracts the tarball in the correct destination.
<jmairboeck>
but we still need to move the files to the different packages (the packageEntries stuff)
<nephele_xmpp>
packageEntries does not need files moved though?
<nephele_xmpp>
you only need to specify which files land in which package
<jmairboeck>
packageEntries essentially does 'mv' the files under the hood
<nephele_xmpp>
why?
<jmairboeck>
that is what it does
<Begasus>
otherwise we won't have _devel packages for one?
<nephele_xmpp>
although move is not that expensive
<jmairboeck>
because it moves the files to the correct "packaging" folder in the chroot, after that "package create" is called on them
<Begasus>
AlienSoldier, gave it a quick look earlier, not sure what the purpose is there (couldn't stand that metalic voice on the video too) :)
<Begasus>
Hanicef[m], ok, if it's installed, try to disable all notifications in settings, should at least be more stable I guess
<Begasus>
don't hit "devices" in settings (that'll crash probably too - upstream is aware)
<AlienSoldier>
Begasus i did not look at the whole tool chain to perform this. It is about transcoding from a machine to another, games in that case. Imagine native "emulation". Not unlike Scumm really.
<Hanicef[m]>
Didn't work, it still bails on startup
<Begasus>
jikes!
<Begasus>
k, will do a clean install in a VM and check on it in the morning
<Hanicef[m]>
"Killed (by death)"
<Begasus>
yeah, don't worry about that last line (it's known and intended) :)
<Hanicef[m]>
I know, it was just an fyi
<AlienSoldier>
On scumm, the engine (code) is the transcoded part (more reverse engineered i would say in scumm case) and the data is native, while in a transcode like in the video, everything is transcoded, code and data.
<Begasus>
if it wasn't me it was 3dEyes who put it there :) (but I've used it on some others too by now)
<Begasus>
I'm afraid over my skills AlienSoldier :(
<Begasus>
sccummvm is pretty straightforward in builds
<Hanicef[m]>
That reminds me that i need to try more games on haiku
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<Begasus>
Edgar, fish_fillets, blobwars ... :)
<Hanicef[m]>
Chocolate doom and openttd runs great from what i've tested so far, and i'm also reviving an abandoned game port myself
<Begasus>
ah, even Frozen-bubbles now that jmairboeck fixed that part for perl! :)
<AlienSoldier>
maybe 3deyes would be able to perform that, not unlike the kind of environment port he made. Then you would only need to follow a receipe. Currently it seem done for N64 but i could see playstation 1,2,3 dreamcast, etc...
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<Begasus>
think he's pretty occupied atm :)
<AlienSoldier>
i am not in a hurry, i have a backlog of game to finish on haiku! I would take a 32bit version of the 64bit only mame we have that said.
<OscarL>
Forgot I switched to my "repository-experiments" haikuporter branch... now its doing the slooow "recreate all the .DependenciInfo files!" :-D
<Begasus>
all attempts at building mame for 32bit failed so far :/ iirc OOM
<Begasus>
lol OscarL!
<OscarL>
Begasus: at least this time all those port.recipes and such are in RAMFS :-P
<Begasus>
and working well?
<Begasus>
tried mozc?
<OscarL>
that is the only one that failed so far (and only on 32 bits)