#asahi-dev on 2025-03-21 — irc logs at oftc.irclog.whitequark.org

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03:21 <nickchan> i already sent 130-cpufreq upstream

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03:27 <nickchan> there's one other patch about rtkit there i don't know how it has to do with cpufreq but that's upstream as well

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10:53 <dylantaylor> I have a "j293" 13 inch M1 MacBook Pro (2020). I saw that the microphone support for this exact model is not ready but it is for every other model. I'm interested in helping with testing and troubleshooting this mice support. I did a sudo make install of the patch at https://github.com/AsahiLinux/asahi-audio/tree/mics but do not see the input device. I was wondering if I also need to apply a kernel patch so that the

10:53 <dylantaylor> node is visible to wireplumber for it to work.

10:58 <dylantaylor> My guess is that I need to build the asahi-wip branch of the kernel and install that in conjunction with the mics branch of asahi-audio, but wanted to see if my assumptions were correct here.

11:00 <dylantaylor> This isn't a support request; I'd love to be able to assist with the development efforts here in order to have mics working on every Apple silicon device.

11:12 <fl0_id> PaulFertser ok this is getting kinda OT, maybe weh shoudl move it

11:14 <chadmed> dylantaylor: there is a kernel commit you need to revert which prevents aop's audio subdevice from probing. there's not really anything left to "develop" though, i just need to validate it on a j293

11:15 <dylantaylor> Can you point me at the specific commit? I could try building and installing the kernel with a little bit of guidance and I can let you know if it works.

11:15 <jannau> no need to revert anything. I added `snd_soc_aop.mic_check_123=1` especially to allow this

11:16 <jannau> just add above parameter to the kernel command line

11:16 <jannau> I doubt snd_soc_aop is reloadable

11:17 <dylantaylor> Ah, would this work on the 6.13.7-401.asahi.fc42.aarch64+16k kernel I'm running in F42 beta, or should I try to build asahi-wip?

11:17 <chaos_princess> if it failed that early, it might be

11:18 <jannau> that's the same kernel as asahi-wip

11:25 <dylantaylor> Okay, awesome. I'm just set GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="rhgb quiet rootflags=subvol=root snd_soc_aop.mic_check_123=1" in /etc/default/grub and ran sudo grub2-mkconfig. I see the option in /boot/loader/entries so I'm going to reboot and give that a try.

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11:25 <chaos_princess> was it not snd_soc_apple_aop?

11:26 <fl0_id> guess we'll find out haha

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11:27 <dylantaylor> Great news, that seems to have worked. :)

11:27 <dylantaylor> I now see "Built-in Audio Multichannel" in the input devices list

11:28 <dylantaylor> And, doing a quick sanity check using https://mictests.com/ I can see that input is working.

11:28 <chaos_princess> test audacity

11:28 <dylantaylor> Alright. Let me give it a shot

11:29 <chaos_princess> test loudness level, then grab your phone, play something that contains speech, and start moving it around. it should pick up louder in the "standard sitting position", and suppress it when you move away from it

11:29 <dylantaylor> It worked. I hit record, said something into the microphone, stopped it, hit playback and it sounded fine.

11:29 <chaos_princess> what are the recording levels approx at?

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11:30 <dylantaylor> What should I be looking at in audacity to determine that?

11:30 <chaos_princess> there are loudness meters in top right corner

11:31 <dylantaylor> https://imgur.com/a/wjm1lgO

11:31 <chaos_princess> check if you have mic volume set to 100% in kde settings

11:32 <dylantaylor> I'm in GNOME

11:32 <dylantaylor> It is at 100% in system setting

11:32 <chaos_princess> are you talking at a "normal" volume?

11:33 <dylantaylor> I would say yes. I wasn't whispering or anything.

11:34 <dylantaylor> Playback sounded fine, for what that's worth. I'm intricately familiar with audacity. Perhaps it needs a bit more gain?

11:34 <chadmed> can you paste the output of "pw-cli i all" somewhere and link it here

11:34 <dylantaylor> Sure

11:35 <fl0_id> dylantaylor the moving around would be to see if the beamforming/processing is working

11:36 <dylantaylor> chadmed: https://pastebin.com/EJBTpDZ2

11:37 <chadmed> oh lol you didnt install alsa-ucm-conf-asahi's mics branch

11:37 <chadmed> install that and restart pipewire

11:38 <chadmed> (and wireplumber)

11:38 <chaos_princess> and probably nuke ~/.local/state/wireplumber/ for good measure

11:39 <dylantaylor> Oh, I just saw asahi-audio's mics branch. Let me give that a go

11:40 <dylantaylor> That repo doesn't contain a Makefile like the other one or instructions in the README. How do I install that?

11:40 <dylantaylor> do I just copy the files into /usr/share/alsa?

11:40 <chadmed> yea just cp -r ./ucm2 /usr/share/alsa/. or whatever

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11:44 <dylantaylor_> I ran that cp -r command and did a reboot for good measure

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11:48 <dylantaylor> I can confirm that there is a 'MacBook Pro J293 High-Power Audio Interface.conf' file in that /usr path now. Should I expect noticeably different results?

11:48 <dylantaylor> (/usr/share/alsa/ucm2/conf.d/aop_audio)

11:48 <chaos_princess> yes, in audacity and other alsa apps

11:49 <dylantaylor> Hmm. Oddly, I think my recording sounds the same as before.

11:49 <dylantaylor> Let me recapture "pw-cli i all"

11:50 <chaos_princess> delete the thing i mentioned above, restart pw/wp and try again

11:51 <dylantaylor> My apologies, I missed that step. Let me try.

11:51 <dylantaylor> Just ran rm -rf ~/.local/state/wireplumber/

11:52 <dylantaylor> and systemctl --user restart pipewire; systemctl --user restart wireplumber

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11:52 <dylantaylor> I'm not noticing a difference. Happy to share a test recording and updated pw-cli output.

11:53 <dylantaylor> https://pastebin.com/BPK72ssE

11:55 <dylantaylor> Sample recording https://filebin.net/o4npsnmqid8h3evq

11:56 <chadmed> which alsa device is selected in audacity

11:57 <dylantaylor> "default"

11:57 <allmazz> hey guys! I just want to express my immense gratitude and admiration to all of you! your work is really matter. I always wanted to contribute and have fun with RE, but my free time is too limited. Anyway, someday I will join...

11:58 <chadmed> dylantaylor: try setting it to "pipewire" explicitly

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11:59 <dylantaylor> Ahhh okay I see a good amount of gain now

12:00 <dylantaylor> https://imgur.com/a/uZA4pcG

12:00 <chadmed> audacity is so shit ffs

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12:00 <chadmed> just implement pipewire support PLEASE

12:00 <chadmed> (for context mics were done ~months ago but we had to keep delaying them due to repeated issues specifically with audacity and other ALSA specific clients)

12:01 <chaos_princess> dylantaylor: thats more like it. check if it sounds "good", and if so, try testing the beamformer by moving around

12:04 <dylantaylor> It sounds how I'd expect. I'll play around with beamforming. Is the expectation that noises not directly in front of the laptop are more muted?

12:04 <chaos_princess> yes

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12:08 <dylantaylor> Doing some testing now by moving around the room

12:10 <dylantaylor> After checking playback, speech is _noticeably_ louder and clearer directly in front of the laptop.

12:10 <chadmed> lets go

12:10 <chadmed> it's not going to magically cancel all noise (the mics themselves are extremely sensitive and omnidirectional) but getting a significant difference was the goal

12:10 <dylantaylor> Full disclosure, I'm not an audio engineer or anything, but the result feels reasonable to my inexperienced ears.

12:14 <dylantaylor> Would you like anything else tested while I'm on here, or is that sufficient to ship the mic support?

12:19 <chadmed> dylantaylor: do you mind sending a recording? you can pm it to me if you want, i just want to make sure the gain and quality are sane

12:20 <dylantaylor> Sure thing. Also, https://github.com/AsahiLinux/asahi-audio/pull/61 - noticed a minor error :)

12:25 <dylantaylor> A little embarrassing, I didn't know what to say exactly, but I tried to provide variance in distance from the computer at a reasonable input level while speaking. https://filebin.net/vj5olg5y27rhv75t

12:27 <dylantaylor> Let me know if that's good

12:30 <chadmed> perfect thanks :)

12:31 <dylantaylor> Glad I could help :)

12:41 <dylantaylor> I'm going to log off for now, if you need any more testing on this, you can reach me via my info on GitHub (see that PR). It's exciting to see this finally working though, and I hope that it can ship to users soon :)

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15:05 <nicolas17> chadmed: where is the list of supported devices for mic?

15:09 <nicolas17> ah it's based on the beamforming attribute?

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