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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] rudolfc pushed 1 commit to master [hrev55419] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=f2a79670aec3+%5E9a76b18fb638
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] f2a79670aec3 - intel_extreme: Fixed virtualscreen setup, ticket #17261
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<jt15s[m]> Anyone an Adobe Illustrator expert here?
<jt15s[m]> I need someone to fix up a merchandise design for Haiku
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<kinkinkijkin> if I wanted to install haiku on a very old computer that has CDs but no CDboot, and I have freeDOS already installed, would I be able to use freeDOS to launch the installer?
<exit70[m]> you could pull out the hard drive and install elsewhere
<kinkinkijkin> could not, no other machine with IDE
<kinkinkijkin> more likely to make a boot floppy
<exit70[m]> usb ide adapter is a thing :)
<kinkinkijkin> more expensive than usb floppy drive and less reliable
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<exit70[m]> that’s your call. no issues from my experience. fwiw might as well get an ide to sata/msata adapter so putting the drive in and out would be a breeze
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<kinkinkijkin> r3 32-bit anyboot iso doesn't fit on a cd
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<kinkinkijkin> by 14mB
<exit70[m]> what is a cd?
<kinkinkijkin> 700MB compact disc
<exit70[m]> jokes aside. you sure you don’t want to remove the need for cd boot once and for all
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<kinkinkijkin> it's a very old computer that currently only has floppy, two old cd drives, and a 6GB hdd
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<HaikuUser> Hello everyone. I am new to Haiku and I am trying to develop software in it. Is there something like build-essentials for Haiku which contains all compatible compilers? clang-12 fails to produce programs and gcc-8 fails to install (it complains that mpfr is already installed and does not want to install it again, maybe?). I am trying to learn how to port software.
<exit70[m]> kinkinkijkin: amount of ram?
<kinkinkijkin> 256MB iirc
<kinkinkijkin> might be 512
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<exit70[m]> borderline :P i heard the installer might need more?
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<exit70[m]> nightly iso should be a bit smaller (since less is bundled)
<kinkinkijkin> yeah ill try that one, found out it has cd boot but i just dont have a cd drive for it that works
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<exit70[m]> i have at least one ide cd-rom drive that i don't use
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] korli pushed 1 commit to master [hrev55420] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=40793c1ef628+%5Ef2a79670aec3
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 40793c1ef628 - RAWTranslator: switch to libraw as backend when available
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<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] diversys pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-1/±0] https://git.io/Ju5v7
<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] Zakero 38e72bd - fossil: bump version (#6188)
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<Not-5726> [haiku/website] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://git.io/Ju5CP
<Not-5726> [haiku/website] waddlesplash 598c27d - _redirects: Add one for the old building guide.
<Not-5726> [haiku/website] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-1/±0] https://git.io/Ju5CX
<Not-5726> [haiku/website] waddlesplash aed4479 - Delete building_haiku_ubuntu_linux_step_step.md
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<Not-5726> [haiku/website] waddlesplash deleted branch remove-bebook-redirect
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<Coldfirex> I believe panic is some sort defined print statement, but the '?', I dont know what that means
<CatButts> it check if "info" is a null pointer
<CatButts> if it is, output default string
<CatButts> condition ? onTrue : onFalse
<CatButts> if (condition) {onTrue;} else {onFalse;}
<Coldfirex> new to me. so its a type of an if statement basically
<CatButts> oh, unlike the if, it returns something
<CatButts> if (condition) { ret = onTrue;} else { ret = onFalse;}
<Coldfirex> interesting, thanks!
<CatButts> more accurate
<Coldfirex> got it, makes sense
<waddlesplash> Coldfirex: I wouldn't worry about this one necessarily
<waddlesplash> eh, I guess it isn't that hard to fix anyway
<Coldfirex> For someone with more than a month experience :)
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<Not-5726> [haiku/website] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [+67/-56/±0] https://git.io/Ju5iy
<Not-5726> [haiku/website] waddlesplash 1c46bbf - openbeosnewsletter: Rework.
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<extrowerk> http://0x0.st/-xIJ.png nice
<waddlesplash> nifty
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<HaikuUser> hello all
<Not-5726> [haiku/website] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-0/±0] https://git.io/Ju5Xe
<Not-5726> [haiku/website] waddlesplash 011a360 - files: Add missing file from the Haiku Newsletter.
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<Coldfirex> pretty cool!
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<extrowerk> i am started my ship driving license lectures, so a weather report/analysis program will be necessary for sailing.
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<Not-5726> [haiku/website] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-5/±0] https://git.io/Ju5Mi
<Not-5726> [haiku/website] waddlesplash 0e4bab8 - Remove some obsolete development documents.
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<lelldorin> hello that information i need to add into bug report with my grafic card? if i set a screen resolution under 1920x1200, i get a split screen with more then one or two destops at same time
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<julicenri> Was casually chatting with someone earlier about Haiku and the discussion eventually went to how Haiku could do multi-user.
<julicenri> They were suggesting that Haiku shouldn't have users in quite the same way that other *nix-likes do them.
<julicenri> Rather, Users would be just for actual people using the system.
<julicenri> Meanwhile, processes would rely on service contexts.
<julicenri> A person shouldn't be able to log in as a printer "user".
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<julicenri> The print spooler for example would have a service context that lets it access printers.
<julicenri> We then proceeded to try coming up with names for these concepts taht would fit in with Haiku.
<julicenri> *that
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<julicenri> User groups for Haiku could be called "Ranks" while "Roles" for service/permission contexts.
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<julicenri> As in, Users can be appointed a "Rank" to be allowed to access a service under a Role (such as a"dialout" Rank to use TTY devices or launch pppd, etc).
<julicenri> Those were inspired by the term Teams.
<waddlesplash> Haiku already has POSIX multiuser, though.
<julicenri> Yeah, but these were just kind of spitballing how Haiku might handle multi-user when it is exposed in the GUI more extensively.
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<julicenri> The other party didn't just see Haiku using regular *nix-style users in the future, but rather something a little bit different.
<julicenri> The multi-user discussion sprang from a short argument about whether Haiku is a *nix-like or not.
<julicenri> (it is)
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [hrev55421] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=64e742def3db+%5E40793c1ef628
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 64e742def3db - media: Declare wildcard fields const.
<waddlesplash> julicenri: yes, it is. we use the POSIX I/O, memory, and process models
<waddlesplash> not to mention general POSIX compliance across the board
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<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuporter] waddlesplash pushed 2 commits to master [+0/-0/±2] https://git.io/Ju5pB
<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuporter] waddlesplash 6d562fa - HaikuPorter: Remove old and obsolete maps from RecipeTypes.
<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuporter] waddlesplash da92250 - HaikuPorter: Add an "all" ARCHITECTURES keyword.
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<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to use_all [+0/-0/±2509] https://git.io/JudI4
<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] waddlesplash 7d96ac1 - Utilize the new "all" ARCHITECTURES keyword in most recipes.
<Not-5726> [haikuports] waddlesplash created branch use_all - https://git.io/vFAzP
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<julicenri> waddlesplash: Yes I know, I was the one arguing that Haiku is a *nix-like.
<julicenri> Ended that argument by linking them that forum thread where I asked the question and got told by you and pulko.
<julicenri> lol
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<HaikuUser> ..
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