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<andreasdr> Damn. Haiku 55459 does not boot via USB or CD, UEFI: black screen, MBR: shows haiku logo, but no progress :(
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<ffog> i just got to "Welcome to Boot Loader Death Land!" lol
<ffog> on an old dell pentium M laptop
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<HaikuUser> does haiku support audio in VMware workstation?
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<ffog> i think so if you use the es1371 device
<ffog> havent tried vmware myself
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<rennj> yeah opensound driver works in vmware
<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] korli pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://git.io/JgTuZ
<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] korli 4985a1b - ca_root_certificates: trigger build
<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] korli pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±0] https://git.io/JgTaU
<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] korli f540022 - ca_root_certificates_java: trigger build
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<Begasus> g'morning peeps
<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] korli pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://git.io/JgTVJ
<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] korli 824e48a - ca_root_certificates_java: trigger build
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<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes pushed 1 commit to master [+2/-1/±0] https://git.io/Jgk6C
<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes c46e363 - SuperTuxKart: bump version
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<Anarchos> salut mmu_man
<mmu_man> plop
<Begasus> Long time I've seen "plop" mmu_man :)
* Anarchos thought the same as Begasus...
<Begasus> ;)
<Begasus> k, vala nearly ready, just need to extract the patchset after the tests are finished
<Begasus> PS, there is a new release from vice, maybe someone can beat me to it :)
<Anarchos> Begasus: what is vala ?
<Begasus> SUMMARY="An object-oriented programming language that uses the GObject system"
<Begasus> I think korli set me up to do the first version there (or it could something else) :)
<Begasus> nah, that was something else ...
<Anarchos> another programming language....
* Anarchos will dig informations about "GObject system"
<Begasus> The build for vala is fine if I add/leave in/out gobject_introspection, but the gir tests still fail (either way)
<Begasus> if I add dbus into the recipe the dbus tests even crash, so both are left out for the tests
<Anarchos> Begasus: is it a first step into porting GTK ?
<Begasus> Not likely by me Anarchos :)
<Begasus> I'm not even sure if 3dEyes is using it for that
<Begasus> stumbled into vala yesterday after updating graphviz
<Anarchos> Begasus: oh graphviz uses it ?
<Begasus> no Anarchos , vala uses libgvc from graphviz
<Anarchos> Begasus: ok
<Begasus> but shouldn't matter as the SONAME didn't change for libgvc
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<Dusan_Krehel> waddlesplash: ping me, if u will here
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<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+2/-2/±0] https://git.io/JgtY9
<waddlesplash> Dusan_Krehel: yes?
<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 570dd01 - vala, bump version (#6216)
<Dusan_Krehel> waddlesplash: ok, i updated in 2021-09-31 ~ 04:00 UTC
<Dusan_Krehel> waddlesplash: after boot, the catastrophe
<Dusan_Krehel> waddlesplash: Haiku was running, but only blue screen and a course and only the move with course.
<Dusan_Krehel> none panel, widgets, nothing.
<waddlesplash> this bug was fixed yesterday
<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-1/±0] https://git.io/Jgtsz
<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus a1295c9 - libgee, bump version, enable recipe (#6217)
<waddlesplash> anyway it is not 09-31 in UTC yet...?
<Dusan_Krehel> :D
<Dusan_Krehel> -09-30
<Begasus> vala and libgee tested with some samples, both ok :)
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<waddlesplash> Dusan_Krehel: you can run Ctrl Alt Del and click Restart the Desktop
<waddlesplash> to work around the issue
<Dusan_Krehel> Begasus we tall about https://krehel.sk/the-slow-work-with-memory-in-haiku/
<Dusan_Krehel> waddlesplash: i tryed, but none see and then then a label "reboot system"
<Dusan_Krehel> power button both reboot :)
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<Dusan_Krehel> ok, i will testing latter, if u write, but is now a history
<Begasus> That's for the developers Dusan_Krehel :)
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<Begasus> Way out of my leage
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<Begasus> glib has been updated here, so far no issues found
<Dusan_Krehel> Begasus and? im a testing the develeping version. a progress, when waddlesplash write me.
<Begasus> Someone has to Dusan_Krehel
<Dusan_Krehel> special only [WAS A LINK]
<Begasus> ;)
<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://git.io/Jgtls
<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes 95bfd13 - AAAA: fix crash on start
<Dusan_Krehel> another, why is boot only in GUI, why none CLI mode?
<countryboy> debug mode ?
<Dusan_Krehel> no
<Dusan_Krehel> a ka MSDOS
<Dusan_Krehel> if i testing a system, i use +- only a console
<countryboy> i have printed a test page : how to share ? youtube ? or ok ?
<Dusan_Krehel> test page of what?
<countryboy> test page under haiku ...
<countryboy> installed usb laser printer + pcl5
<countryboy> i am handy ... i need help ...
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<waddlesplash> Dusan_Krehel: if there is another update available you can probably take it and it will resolve this problem
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<Dusan_Krehel> waddlesplash: i know
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<Begasus> k, let's see if latest vice still builds ...
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<countryboy> vice = vic emu ?
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<mmu_man> ok I really need to write this blog post about Lenovo.
<mmu_man> Well, rather type it as I already have it in my head
<mmu_man> already have the conclusion
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<countryboy> peace and love ... :-)
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<mmu_man> well not exactly
<mmu_man> they lost their mojo
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] kallisti5 pushed 2 commits to master [hrev55465] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=7b1db5311147+%5E81eacf8d4ffd
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 521f76b999fe - network/stack: Enable Werror as there are no related warnings
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 7b1db5311147 - network/datalink_protocols: Enable Werror as there are no related warnings
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<bbjimmy_64> just updated to hrev55464 and the media server no longer works... it does not launch on boot, when I launch it, it cannot find the sound card or any video input.
<bbjimmy_64> basicly all the media stuff is broken.
<bbjimmy_64> ok, if I manually launch the media server things start to work.
<countryboy> check boot scripts ...
<countryboy> search with search tool in files : 'media'
<countryboy> or the name of media command to start ...
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<countryboy> bbjimmy_64: try ... open a consolle ... goto /boot/system/servers ... write ./media_server ... press enter ...
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<bbjimmy_64> it launches from a terminal as well, but not from media preferences or on boot.
<countryboy> ok
<countryboy> i think is broken a boot script becouse it launch media_server at boot ... like in consolle ...
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<bbjimmy_64> I placewd a link to the media_server in /boot/home/config/settings/boot/launch and the media server launches from there.
<countryboy> bbjimmy_64: put there the softw you want at boot : ie an mp3 ...
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<bbjimmy_64> I have a start-up sound set and it plays when the media_server launches
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<roiredX> good day
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<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [+3/-0/±0] https://git.io/JgOI0
<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] nielx 0d9a522 - Rust:add version 1.55.0 (#6191)
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<Begasus> Heading out, cu peeps!
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [hrev55466] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=63b76faeead2+%5E7b1db5311147
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 63b76faeead2 - Break translators out of haiku.hpkg into a separate haiku_datatranslators.hpkg.
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [hrev55467] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=7f4c5a1fe789+%5E63b76faeead2
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 7f4c5a1fe789 - launch_daemon: Do not return errors from RegisterExternalEvent.
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<extrowerk> ahoy
<waddlesplash> hello, extrowerk
<extrowerk> update went ok on my side, it seems the package repos already have the fix for the blue screen bug.
<extrowerk> nice
<extrowerk> oh, but it seems i am affected by the media server bug
<extrowerk> meh
<Dusan_Krehel> extrowerk: thx for info
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<extrowerk> As somebody wrote earlier, letting MediaPlayer spawn media_server doesn't works, and it is not possible to do it trough the media preflet, but starting media_server in Terminal solved the problem.
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [hrev55468] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=2aaa4f6aad3b+%5E7f4c5a1fe789
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 2aaa4f6aad3b - package_infos: Fold x86_gcc2/haiku into generic.
<waddlesplash> extrowerk: yes, I fixed it in hrev55467
<extrowerk> yea, thanks. i am on hrev55464 right now, will update it morning.
<extrowerk> i have here a cmake project i am working on it. it was built completely last time, so if i start make in the build dir i expect it to say: everything up to date. But if i update haiku, make insist to rebuild everything.
<extrowerk> any idea, why does it happens?
<extrowerk> ah, every header gets a new timestamp, obviously it triggers make like "ohshi... needs to remake everything!"
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<waddlesplash> yes
<waddlesplash> not really ideal, dunno why the build system has this issue
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<extrowerk> waddlesplash: a reproducible build with non-changing last modification date would solve the problem, but would introduce others.
<extrowerk> but you know that for sure
<waddlesplash> well, when headers don't change the date shouldn't change
<waddlesplash> I'm not entirely sure why it happens the way it does now, please file a ticket if you would
<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] waddlesplash pushed 3 commits to master [+5/-1/±1] https://git.io/JgsO0
<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] waddlesplash 613fd9e - intel_wifi_firmwares: Add iprowifi3945 firmwares also.
<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] waddlesplash 41c25cd - intel_wifi_firmwares: Separate parts of date with _.
<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] waddlesplash f68be52 - sys-firmware: Add recipes for Realtek and Ralink firmwares.
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<Coldfirex> Anybody want to take a crack at making vmware addons smap aware? https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/issues/6161
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<Dusan_Krehel> waddlesplash: r u here?
<waddlesplash> yes
<Dusan_Krehel> waddlesplash: i have a good messages :)
<Dusan_Krehel> Haiku: 2.130321 0.800992 0.707769 0.271351 1633027614 1633027616 1000000 # clang + glib -O2
<Dusan_Krehel> Linux: 1.430601 0.465307 0.593135 0.276642 2284 120768 1000000 # clang + glib -O2
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<Dusan_Krehel> waddlesplash: count: 1M. Format of output read You README in actual source code.
<Dusan_Krehel> Linux implementacion is in global the best with OS
<Coldfirex> so much better results then before?
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<Dusan_Krehel> Coldfirex: yes, u have normal value, before was extremy slow.
<Dusan_Krehel> sort 10k (stable): 154.557131 154.243387 0.002976 0.001063 0 0 10000
<Dusan_Krehel> now: 0.391391 0.016490 0.003315 0.002031 1633027589 1633027589 10000 # clang + glib -O2
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<Coldfirex> Great to hear!
<Dusan_Krehel> what was changes?
<Dusan_Krehel> because so extrem change?
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<waddlesplash> Dusan_Krehel: what version of glib are you using?
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<Dusan_Krehel> where
<Dusan_Krehel> waddlesplash: in haiku actual
<waddlesplash> yes, what's the installed version of the package
<Dusan_Krehel> in linux: 2.66.8
<Dusan_Krehel> in haiku: glib2-2.68.4-1-x86_64.hpkg
<waddlesplash> ok, good
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<waddlesplash> another day, another rabbit hole
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<kallisti5[m]> ugh. IPFS node publishing repo updates went down a while ago
<kallisti5[m]> going to upgrade it from a Raspberry Pi 4 to a legit computer with a bit more ram
<Coldfirex> Can't wait until we can see Haiku running on something ridiculous like this at some point in the future: https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Ampere-Altra-Max-Pricing
<kallisti5[m]> no reason we can't run on that
<kallisti5[m]> however.. it really isn't our target demographic
<Coldfirex> true
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 2 commits to master [hrev55469] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=668331432765+%5E2aaa4f6aad3b
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] ec2959734532 - freebsd_network: Put MII and USB headers in the common generated directory.
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 668331432765 - Jamfiles: Repace TARGET_PACKAGING_ARCH with TARGET_KERNEL_ARCH in a few places.
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [hrev55470] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=1bcecb98c38d+%5E668331432765
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 1bcecb98c38d - nvme_disk: Add structure padding for 32-bit.
<waddlesplash> ok, I have a haiku.hpkg
<waddlesplash> let's see if it boots
<waddlesplash> it boots. let's benchmark it
<waddlesplash> kallisti5[m]: https://review.haiku-os.org/c/haiku/+/4515
<kallisti5[m]> added a +1
<kallisti5[m]> I don't run x86_gcc2 enough to give more than that :P
<kallisti5[m]> any performance improvements?
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [hrev55471] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=4319e24c4e41+%5E1bcecb98c38d
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 4319e24c4e41 - Revert "Jamfiles: Repace TARGET_PACKAGING_ARCH with TARGET_KERNEL_ARCH in a few places."
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [hrev55472] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=24e15920a261+%5E4319e24c4e41
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 24e15920a261 - Update build-packages for x86_gcc2.
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] e87395438a77 - Revert "Jamfiles: Repace TARGET_PACKAGING_ARCH with TARGET_KERNEL_ARCH in a few places."
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 30e3418589d9 - Revert "Jamfiles: Repace TARGET_PACKAGING_ARCH with TARGET_KERNEL_ARCH in a few places."
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [hrev55475] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=e8a8e39533e3+%5E30e3418589d9
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] e8a8e39533e3 - Update build-packages for x86_64.
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 2 commits to master [hrev55476] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=1496cfe1de41+%5Ee8a8e39533e3
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 7fd8b4addd33 - Outsource most WiFi firmwares.
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 1496cfe1de41 - Remove now-unused WiFi firmware binaries from the repository.
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