<julicenri>
x512[m]: Just to be clear, do you mean RADV or AMDVLK? There are two AMD Vulkan drivers for Linux.
<julicenri>
I'm assuming RADV based on your wording, but just in case.
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[haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes pushed 1 commit to master [+2/-2/±0] https://git.io/JzMps
<Not-5726>
[haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes a66592e - Widelands: bump to release version
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[haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-1/±0] https://git.io/JzDUP
<Not-5726>
[haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes 6f88ae8 - colobot_data: bump version
<Not-5726>
[haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes pushed 1 commit to master [+2/-2/±0] https://git.io/JzDUj
<Not-5726>
[haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes 9a970f7 - Colobot: bump version
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<x512[m]>
julicenri: Driver name in meson is "amd", executable file is "libvulkan_radeon.so".
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<x512[m]>
It is a part of Mesa3d library.
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<andreasdr>
x512: Very nice!
<x512[m]>
I found that libdrm assumes positive POSIX error code constants and convert it to negative on return. Haiku error constants are negative so wrong return value is returned causing crash.
<andreasdr>
ill order the 5xxx now. Lets see. Hope I get this board ASAP and lets see. If I get PCI to work I think I can handle the other stuff also. Sorry, actually I am no kernel dev. But Ill try next week. :)
<andreasdr>
Also If you like to try/do stuff on my radeondrm fork, feel free to do so :)
<andreasdr>
Actually I am pretty curious If I get this further :D
<andreasdr>
Means you also already build libdrm. Very cool.
<andreasdr>
... did build ...
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<PulkoMandy>
x512[m], we have a wrapper to convert POSIX error codes already. The "errors must be positive" is a recent addition to POSIX and we had to make it optional because BeOS errors are negative
<andreasdr>
Also I could sell yesterday the 6790. Ha. This guy was so cool. I could not change his money, so we went to a bar to have 1 beer. At the end we had 4 :DDD
<PulkoMandy>
see libposix_error_mapper.a and there is a define to set to use it
<x512[m]>
PulkoMandy: libdrm also assume that errno is positive and it assign values to errno with this assumptions.
<PulkoMandy>
yes, so you need to set the correct define and use libposix_error_mapper, I'm trying to find some documentation on this
<andreasdr>
I just try to order a Ati Radeon HD 5850 on Ebay "Kleinanzeigen". Hope this works with Radeon accelerant. The 6xxx card did work. Fingers crossed.
<x512[m]>
Where is waddlesplash? He talked a lot about Vulkan.
<andreasdr>
Vulkan is the hardest API I have ever used.
<andreasdr>
Vulkan support in my engine is early but complete.
<andreasdr>
But it still slower than GL in most cases. But if you render very much objects its faster.
<andreasdr>
Lets see.
<andreasdr>
Poor engine devs. The initial work todo to have anything displayed with Vulkan is that high. Unbelievable.
<andreasdr>
So I wanted also to talk a bit about Vulkan. I think Vulkan is very interesting on computer systems that have much cores, but low performance per 1 core.
<andreasdr>
:D
<andreasdr>
What would be interesting for Haiku and Game/Engine-Dev would be GLFW3. Any plans to support this soon?
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<andreasdr>
Because e.g. GLUT does not allow proper application shutdown.
<x512[m]>
GLFW is already ported by 3deyes.
<andreasdr>
Thats super amazing.
<andreasdr>
Will change my haiku tdme2 port to GLFW3 then next. Just a preprocessor switch and linking, including.
<andreasdr>
Last time I asked it was not :DDD
<andreasdr>
Nice to see so many progress.
<x512[m]>
It is not published to HaikuPorts yet. Probably 3deyes will do it soon. I got current patches version and it works.
<andreasdr>
Niiiiiiiice!
<andreasdr>
GLFW3 also does allow to set application icon, also it supports more Window modes like not resizable, windowless and so on. GLFW3 is pretty nice.
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[haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://git.io/Jzym7
<Not-5726>
[haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes 26de91b - colobot_data: use python2
<andreasdr>
Ok. Proud owner of a "ATI Radeon HD 5850 1GB" :D
<andreasdr>
I guess it will arrive on TUE/WED latest.
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<britishgeek>
Hello
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<andreasdr>
Hi
<britishgeek>
i am trying to share my Internet from my PC to my Haiku laptop - because it doesnt have a supported wifi card - and Haiku is not pinging anything and is stuck on "Configuring"
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<Coldfirex>
if it doesnt have a support wifi card, what about plugging in an ethernet cable to your switch/router?
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<rennj>
no driver for the hardware
<rennj>
ethernet card will need a driver also
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<rennj>
wifi card, video card, sound card, usb device...all need them
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[haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://git.io/JzSTp
<rennj>
We've got the silver wings to be free, so sweet.
<rennj>
Hotline server for BeOS intel and PowerPC.
<rennj>
You can create BeOS community on BeOS.
<rennj>
hotline vs beshare
<rennj>
hotline rocked
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<AlienSoldier>
anything changed in networking? Before when i was loosing my sattelite connection i was disabling dhcp and then re-enable it, voila network was back. Now network only come back after a reboot. Very annoying. Only difference in using the system is that i now use vesa because on intel driver regression.
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<rennj>
sounds painful
<rennj>
primitive computing
<rennj>
2021
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<AlienSoldier>
another problem with network preference is that it often crash. It is in tracker but you don't see any window and you can't even kill the task
<AlienSoldier>
no, you can kill the task but when relaunched it is still without window
<AlienSoldier>
curently stuck in the replacan saying "configuring"
<AlienSoldier>
*replican
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<x512[m]>
I also have networking problems that transfer stuck for a long time or become extremely slow. Reboot often helps. It seems some networking internal state become broken. Easily reproducible with Dukto upload.
<PulkoMandy>
yes, network is slowing down with long uptimes here as well. I never found why, not sure if it's soemthing broken in tcp or some lower level layer
<PulkoMandy>
there is and it's named "open" like in MacOS
<andreasdr>
Nice!!!
<PulkoMandy>
works for both URLs and files
<andreasdr>
Nice!!!
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<britishgeek>
hello
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<britishgeek>
Hello
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<scott_puopolo[m]>
britishgeek: hello
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<scott_puopolo[m]>
How's your install going?
<britishgeek>
it worked but i decided to install on a different laptop, which has a supported wifi card but something weird is happening with it
<britishgeek>
wifi connects, i can use the ping command, but i cant use any internet-enabled apps like WebPositive or AppDepot or Vision
<scott_puopolo[m]>
britishgeek: you can ping outside addresses?
<britishgeek>
yeah i just pinged Google
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<scott_puopolo[m]>
You can try to inspect the syslog with the following command in terminal: tail -f /var/log/syslog
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<scott_puopolo[m]>
Another thought is to pick a program like WebPositive and launch it from terminal: /boot/system/apps/WebPositive and see if anything useful shows in the terminal while running.
<britishgeek>
platformLoadResourcesSynchronously is not implemented
<britishgeek>
MESSAGE file:///boot/home/config/settings/WebPositive/LoaderPages/Welcome:130:39: TypeError: null is not an object (evaluating 'document.getElementByID('heading').innerHTML = val1')
<britishgeek>
and after a while WebPositive gives out a error saying 'Error Loading *insert url here*: Operation would block'
<scott_puopolo[m]>
Yeah, I think by default the loader page is pulled from the Internet and not local.
<britishgeek>
Google is not even working tho
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<scott_puopolo[m]>
If you can get to Haiku menu -> Preferences -> Network , you will see your connections. Under the device that is connected you should see IPv4 and an address. If you click on that, the window on the right will show Mode: and DHCP with addresses below it. Does this info look correct for your network?
<britishgeek>
yeah it does
<mrentropyvcs>
Are your DNS settings right?
<britishgeek>
i removed it and re adding it to try it
<britishgeek>
how do you add a Secondary?
<britishgeek>
do you add it the same as a primary?
<mrentropyvcs>
Just add another one and use the Move Up and Move Down to arrange them the way you want.
<britishgeek>
it did not work
<mrentropyvcs>
try adding 8.8.8.8 and moving it to the top and see if that works.
<britishgeek>
did not work
<nephele[m]>
if ping google.com already worked it's not a DNS problem^
<mrentropyvcs>
If it's trying to go to the correct place, yes. But if it isn't then it won't work. But if 8.8.8.8 didn't work, then it's definitely not the problem.
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<britishgeek1>
Hi sorry my PC had a little moment and crashed
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<britishgeek1>
Goodbye Me!
<nephele[m]>
kind of funny how the battery widget goes from "Inifnite" time of netpower to 20H to 17H to 12H to eventually 2:30H in a matter of about a minute
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<tqh>
it's the battery firmware that reports the numbers.
<tqh>
But maybe something is using a lot of battery?
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<nephele[m]>
the remaining time comes from the firmware..? I thought we just calculate that based on remaining mAh/max(mAH) with an average of the battery consumption of the last 5 minutes or something
<nephele[m]>
That would atleast explain the ridicilous numbers at the start when it has "saved" consumption of 0mAh for the time interval (first started with 80H for me, with a laptop that does 2 maybe 4 hours)
<ffog>
after installing haiku on this laptop, it boots the haiku loading screen but eventually dumps into the debugger white screen. curious how best to troubleshoot that
<nephele[m]>
You can try some options in the boot menu depending on what the error is, but it would be nice to have a bug report so someone can take a look into fixing that KDL :)
<ffog>
sure, how could i get that into a bug report?
<nephele[m]>
Usually by just taking a picture with a camera, alternatively there usually is a way to get the info from the system log if the system actually booted before throwing the KDL, but that requires either a booting haiku, or some other OS that can read the disk (or moving the disk, usually only makes sense when booted via thumb drive)
<ffog>
gotcha, i'll take a picture
<scott_puopolo[m]>
mrentropyvcs: nephele wouldn't the dns of his gateway work? Does the 8.8.8.8 bypass that entirely? Or phrased another way, can a ping succeed without a proper dns entry?
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<nephele[m]>
scott_puopolo: ping uses ICMP packets to talk to a remote host, if you specifiy an IP adress explicitly it's not required for DNS to work, but if you use any hostname you will have to have either the entry in /system/settings/etc/hosts or have working DNS
<nephele[m]>
so usually, if someone can use "ping google.com" or "ping haiku-os.org" or something their DNS is working fine
<nephele[m]>
(reallistically the hosts file /wont/ have any entries for remote hosts... those times are long gone)
<scott_puopolo[m]>
nephele: thanks, makes sense!
<scott_puopolo[m]>
In that case I wonder what the issue is. If another OS is tried and it works that would be interesting. Compare settings I guess.
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<nephele[m]>
my aproach to debugging networking problems is easy: 1) blame dns 2) if its not dns give up
<scott_puopolo[m]>
😂
<nephele[m]>
although as step 1.5) is blame wrongly set clock ;)
<nephele[m]>
(because it makes TLS certificate validation fail with "cert not yet valid" which causes most connections to fail outright)
<scott_puopolo[m]>
Good point! I always forget about that point. I think it shows with SSL problems, correct?
<nephele[m]>
It might, but then it might not too... I think it depends on the application, recently I have been getting more of the "Operation would block" errors in web+, and I frankly don't know when they occur, in my case i's not TLS though... seems to mostly happen on 404 or something? I will investigate that one of these days
<scott_puopolo[m]>
Do you all remember Betips? I wonder if there is a way to tag a post (anywhere really) or highlight some text and have an add-on that creates a Betip. Maybe like a function of Clipdinger with a key combo that starts an entry that can be completed and submitted.
<scott_puopolo[m]>
Does that make any sense?
<nephele[m]>
You want to post irc qoutes to a wiki? :D
<ffog>
well, i'll see if i can get that debugger screen back, usually it doesn't get that far.. i have to reimage the usb stick every time
<nephele[m]>
ffog: so you do get a working boot after that?
<ffog>
i've never gotten a working boot
<nephele[m]>
Why do you need to rewrite the usb then?
<scott_puopolo[m]>
nephele: yes and no, from anywhere really. Copy some text, initiate the key combo, complete the wiki post.
<nephele[m]>
you can also try some safe mode options to see if those help you, it could narrow down what the problem is, but it's a bit hit or mis :)
<ffog>
no idea, after using it to install to the HD, if i boot into the usb stick again its like as if i selected "Try Haiku"
<nephele[m]>
Oh, yes that is expected. it's just a live system
<nephele[m]>
but, the live system boots?
<ffog>
i can boot off the usb, but i'm trying to install to the laptop hard drive
<scott_puopolo[m]>
I know it can be done manually, just thinking of a way to automate it. https://betips.net is still active. Just un-utilized.
<nephele[m]>
Can you boot off of the usb to the harddrive? As in select it from the usb loader?
<ffog>
not sure, what is the usb loader?
<nephele[m]>
Well, that atleast means you can boot on the system, i assumed you ment that Haiku wouldn't boot... but conceptually the usb drive boot is exactly the same as an installed system in how it boots
<ffog>
ah yes in those terms for sure it boots
<nephele[m]>
i mean hitting space when the usb drive boots, and then selecting the install on the hard drive instead of the one on the usb
<ffog>
during the boot up screen? with the icons
<nephele[m]>
no, before that
<ffog>
okay i'll try that, thanks
<nephele[m]>
after the bios screen start jamming the space key, or when on older computers you can also hold the shift key
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<ffog>
i see, i got the menu to come up
<ffog>
is there a way to trigger the installer?
<nephele[m]>
from the live boot, just select Installer from the application menu (deskbar)
<nephele[m]>
I'm heading to sleep, good luck :)
<ffog>
thanks!
<ffog>
the usb loader doesn't find the laptop hard drive, hmm. the machine will boot from that hard drive though, showing Haiku and loading icons but then bounce into the debugger
<scott_puopolo[m]>
There is also Tipster in Haiku Depot, how could that be utilized more?
<ffog>
when booting from usb, the laptop drive shows up but it doesn't have a leaf on it, maybe not properly 'blessed' somehow?
<scott_puopolo[m]>
ffog: I 'think' the leaf designates the current boot drive, I think.
<ffog>
ah gotcha
<scott_puopolo[m]>
ffog: Is there anything of value on the hard drive?
<ffog>
no, i've nuked it several times during various installs
<ffog>
just tried the install onto a usb stick, with the same result as the hard drive
<ffog>
certainly could be user error somehow just not sure what
<scott_puopolo[m]>
ffog: so it sounds like you can boot to the Live Desktop? Or you always end up in debugger?
<ffog>
correct, i can get to the live desktop on the ubs stick i have imaged with the anyboot iso
<scott_puopolo[m]>
ffog: OK, and you've looked around in DriveSetup it sounds like?
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<ffog>
yup thats what i used to format the laptop drive
<scott_puopolo[m]>
OK, if you go into DriveSetup, how is the hard drive represented (for example, mine is /dev/disk/scsi/0/0/0/raw)
<ffog>
same for me, /dev/disk/scsi/0/0/0/raw
<scott_puopolo[m]>
This is a machine with BIOS and not EFI, correct?
<ffog>
correct
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<scott_puopolo[m]>
If you click on that /dev/disk entry, you can see the current drive structure in the panel above. What is the partition layout?
<ffog>
it does have UEFI mode which is not enabled
<ffog>
(the laptop)
<ffog>
its just got a Be File System taking up the entire disk
<ffog>
at /dev/disk/scisi/0/0/0/0
<scott_puopolo[m]>
OK, that's cool. Do you have any partitions listed inside that main /dev/disk partition?
<ffog>
yes, that /dev/disk/scsi/0/0/0/0 partition
<scott_puopolo[m]>
If you're fine with wiping the drive, I can try to help set it up. (Please sign the waiver first, ha! )
<ffog>
you can see there the 16gb usb i'm booted from, the dvd drive, and my 230gb disk
<scott_puopolo[m]>
OK, cool, looks good. Under Disk menu -> Initialize -> Intel Partition Map (this will wipe all data on this drive)
<ffog>
the disk is busy somehow
<ffog>
Resource busy
<scott_puopolo[m]>
Right, it looks like it is mounted as /bebook. If you select that entry in DriveSetup and under menu Partition -> Unmount.
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<ffog>
it didn't want to unmount, anyway i rebooted and setup the Intel Partition Map
<ffog>
so i'm good so far
<scott_puopolo[m]>
OK, that will wipe the drive. Next is create a partition. You can use the whole drive as one or break it up, your choice.
<ffog>
okay, fine by me to use the whole drive as one
<ffog>
Partition type: Be File System, Active partition checked?
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<scott_puopolo[m]>
That is under menu Partition -> Create. You can be sure to drag the slider to use the whole partition, set partition type to Be File System, select Active partition box, then Create.
<ffog>
okay, done
<scott_puopolo[m]>
Next step is menu Partition -> Format
<ffog>
yup, is the name of the partition important? i'm assuming it can be anything
<scott_puopolo[m]>
You can give the partition a name, block size can remain at 2048, enable query support is checked, and click format.
<scott_puopolo[m]>
It can be anything
<ffog>
okay, done
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<scott_puopolo[m]>
In DriveSetup, you should now see the drive as File system: Be File System, Volume name: as you set it, Mounted at: nothing, Size? looks correct? Block size: 2048. So far so good?
<ffog>
yup everything looks good to me
<scott_puopolo[m]>
Next step, (cross fingers) is Haiku menu -> Applications -> Installer.
<ffog>
yup, I can select the partition we just created in the installer
<scott_puopolo[m]>
Install from: should be your USB drive. Onto: select the newly prepared hard drive entry.
<ffog>
anything else, or go ahead and "Begin" ?
<scott_puopolo[m]>
Yup, next step is Begin (unless you want to look through Show optional packages, but I'd just let it fly as is)
<scott_puopolo[m]>
It's mostly dev oriented packages that will do no harm to install.
<ffog>
okay, says completed, boot sector has been written to my partition
<ffog>
so far this is identical to what i did
<ffog>
previously
<scott_puopolo[m]>
That is s good sign. At this point, you can power down the laptop. Remove the USB. Reboot and hopefully Haiku will load.
<scott_puopolo[m]>
Depending on the hardware in the laptop, you may need to enter the boot menu to tweak settings. Hopefully it will boot up without that step.
<ffog>
so I'm back in the debugger
<ffog>
it shows the bootup screen, i get all the way to the rocket
<ffog>
then bounced to the white screen
<scott_puopolo[m]>
Is there text or just a white screen?
<Diver>
ffog: so app_server crashed, probably a graphics driver crashing
<ffog>
interesting, i wonder why that happens booting from disk, but not from the live boot
<scott_puopolo[m]>
Yikes! I'm not sure what could cause all those errors. Is there anyone following along that has seen this? It looks like you're on Beta 3 based on the Live Desktop screen shot.
<scott_puopolo[m]>
How is your Internet bandwidth? Perhaps you could try downloading a nightly and retry this whole process. I'd wait to see if anyone chimes in first with some insight of those error messages.
<ffog>
sure, i've got plenty of bandwidth but will wait a bit
<ffog>
thanks everyone for assistance
<scott_puopolo[m]>
At first I was thinking data corruption, but you can get to the live desktop.
<ffog>
right, yeah
<scott_puopolo[m]>
Do you know where the nightly images are stored?
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<ffog>
yep, looks like hrev55449 is the newest
<scott_puopolo[m]>
Correct
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<scott_puopolo[m]>
So sorry. Keep trying, it's worth it. If you can get waddlesplash, pulkomandy, kallisti, mmu_man to name a few, to look at those crash images, perhaps we can get past this hurdle.
<ffog>
just tried safe mode with VESA mode, and get same errors
<ffog>
cool, thanks :) i'll try nightly as well
<scott_puopolo[m]>
Yes, that was going to be my suggestion if you had just a white screen with no text.
<ffog>
ah okay
<scott_puopolo[m]>
There is also an entry in the boot menu regarding debug onscreen output. You can let it roll by or select screen paging that lets you examine the output. There is also a menu selection to look at previous debug outputs. If you're up to it, these can be sent to dev.haiku-os.org as a bug report. This will definitely get it in front of the right eyeballs.
<ffog>
nightly worked :)
<scott_puopolo[m]>
Get out!
<ffog>
hahaha yea it seems fine
<ffog>
OK thanks everyone for helping!
<scott_puopolo[m]>
Well, part of me wants to know what the heck. Part of me says, carry on and enjoy Haiku.
<ffog>
if anyone is interested i could help provide logs maybe, for now i'll just use this install for a while
<scott_puopolo[m]>
I was also going to suggest performing a MD5 on the downloaded iso. Another time, good news is that it's working.
<scott_puopolo[m]>
Beta 3 is not that old. I personally have not seen those errors. I did find two entries in the dev bug tracker that were similar but not at boot up. Anyway, congrats.
<ffog>
actually, i did play around with the decorator
<ffog>
and was using the Be decorator
<ffog>
if that was it, thats amazing
<ffog>
but i can't remember where i did that, on the live boot or what
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<HaikuUser>
this one too: https://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/13119 both have mention of BeDecorator. This is coder territory, still some broken code it would seem.
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<ScottPuopolo>
ffog: How familiar are you with Haiku / BeOS?
<ScottPuopolo>
The live boot acts like a persistent install on a usb so whatever changes were made will carryover to the hard drive install. As opposed to a fixed media like a CD / DVD.
<ffog>
that makes sense
<ffog>
not very familiar
<ffog>
just booted the live system into a vm every once in a while over the years, but wanted to really give it a try
<ffog>
i know a few people running it as a daily driver
<HaikuUser2>
i am. works pretty well
<HaikuUser2>
feels like the win95 days
<ffog>
nice :)
<ScottPuopolo>
Well, there is HaikuDepot under Applications were we have our software repositories. Along with IRC here, there is also https://discuss.haiku-os.org/ with forums for help / research.