<Coldfirex>
Anarchos: not much, but 64bit is usually faster
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<x512[m]>
32 bit may be faster in some cases because less registers need to be saved on context switch.
<x512[m]>
Also it may use less memory and fit to cache, making it faster.
<waddlesplash>
whatever performance is saved by less registers on context switch on 32 bit is massively outdone by 64 bit passing function call arguments in registers
<x512[m]>
I get some interesting numbers that guest Windows XP 32 bit context switching in virtual machine is faster than host Windows 10 64 bit on the same PC.
<waddlesplash>
on Intel? it may have the massive overhead from spectre etc. mitigations
<x512[m]>
Yes.
<x512[m]>
Intel Atom x5.
<x512[m]>
Haiku context switching in VirtualBox is slow for some unknown reason, Windows XP is much faster.
<waddlesplash>
Haiku is always really slow in VirtualBox because ICI delivery takes hundreds of microseconds instead of < 10
<waddlesplash>
literally faster to use Haiku in VirtualBox with 1 core and APIC disabled than with it enabled and 2 cores
<dcatt>
that's good to know
<Coldfirex>
waddlesplash: for compiling too? Ive always used 4 vcpus
<Coldfirex>
havent tested with vmware player/workstation though
<waddlesplash>
VMware is way better than VirtualBox
<waddlesplash>
QEMU/KVM is the best (QEMU on Windows, etc. with WHPX is not, just with KVM)
<waddlesplash>
but if you are not on Linux, then indeed VMware is the way to go
<Coldfirex>
ya Windows here. I will plan to test
<Coldfirex>
Ive run it in ESXi, but that was mostly to see how fast it would die when throwing a couple hunder gigs of memory and 64 vCPUs at it :)
<x512[m]>
VMware Player has terribly slow user interface. Also I can't find USB tablet support there.
<dcatt>
I've never had a good experience with VMware or Parallels on Mac
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<Coldfirex>
pulkomandy: thanks, thats what I meant. The iso in that link. Testing now
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<Coldfirex>
if I wanted to see the build log of Haiku with -Wformat-security, where would I specifically add that option? I assume somewhere in the ArchitectureRules file
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[haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes pushed 1 commit to master [+2/-2/±0] https://git.io/Ju32y
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[haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes 6ad643a - ZEsarUX: bump version
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[haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes pushed 1 commit to master [+2/-2/±0] https://git.io/Ju35m
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[haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes pushed 1 commit to master [+2/-0/±0] https://git.io/Ju3AK
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<dcatt>
Anyone know what happen to the Screenshot app that was available for B1?
<zdykstra>
Which one is that? Hitting printscreen in B3 still brings it up for me
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<dcatt>
oh... I don't have a print screen on my keyboard, but I'll track down the app
<dcatt>
on my B1 install has the Screenshot app in the Applications directory
<waddlesplash>
it can, yes. but VirtualBox is just not great
<exit70[m]>
i get it but if that's the case why don't we say so on the website? maybe add a sentence "we recommend QEMU or VMWare"?
<jenna16bit>
I think you'd call that minimizing the support surface or some such heh
<Coldfirex_>
Virtualbox is my primary driver for Haiku under Windows. No major issues
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<jt15s[m]>
Does Haiku have a port of wxWidgets?
<waddlesplash>
yes, via wxQt
<jt15s[m]>
Ooh ok
<jt15s[m]>
BTW Waddlesplash, someone on Discord can't install Haiku because they have an EMMC drive on their device; any chance you could have a look at the driver in the nightlies?
<waddlesplash>
probably I won't because I know nothing about emmc, and it's a rather rate device on desktop class hardawre, and PulkoMandy was the one working on that anyway.
<jt15s[m]>
Oh okay
<mrentropyvcs>
They seem popular with the ultra small form factor folks.
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