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<kallisti5[m]> Ok. I figured out the repo issue. Running fixed pipelines now
<kallisti5[m]> the concourse resource which i used makes a really bad assumption
<kallisti5[m]> "--size-only" aka, i'll only look at the sizes of files to see if they changed
<kallisti5[m]> aka.. anything with an identical size but different contents is the "same"
<kallisti5[m]> including repo.sha256 which is always the same length 😆
<OscarL> Welp, at least you found out the issue! Thanks a bunch kallisti5[m]!
* OscarL starts updating
* OscarL cancels the update, as he sees there's a new build running :-D
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<kallisti5[m]> OscarL: i'm just frustrated it took a whole day to find lol
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<OscarL> Know the feeling all too well :-)
<OscarL> kallisti5[m]: I was about to suggest you to open an issue for that, but I see you already added a commit for that on your PR.
<OscarL> Good guy! :-)
<kallisti5[m]> haha, I almost always upstream changes
<kallisti5[m]> not really sure that person will accept though. The repo might be abandoned
* OscarL applauds
<OscarL> Welp, at least there's something for future frustrated DevOps to find now :-)
<kallisti5[m]> ha, true. I generally try to spam info into tickets (even old ones) for future people with similar issues
<OscarL> Awesome. I hate old forum post with the same problem/question I have... where the last post is: "Ok, I figured out. Bye guys."... and no solution was ever typed :-D
<OscarL> There's always a relevant XKCD :-D
<OscarL> its alt-text is really onto something.
<kallisti5[m]> lol. I run into this all the time... it drives me nuts
<kallisti5[m]> ayyeee. ok. It seems to be working
<kallisti5[m]> I can sleep easy. The builds run in a few hours and should clear up all the issues. I'll check them in the morning
<OscarL> Good dreams kallisti5[m]!
<OscarL> and thanks again for your work! Much appreciated!
<kallisti5[m]> thanks! :-)
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<OscarL> Build #12 went ok... updating!
<OscarL> (32 bits seems to have a different problem now, thou)
<OscarL> "failed ExtractHPKGArchive1 build_packages/haikuwebkit_x86-1.8.4-2-x86_gcc2"
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<Halian|Haiku> Morning
<Halian|Haiku> Didn't get a checksum error adding the beta4 repo this time :o
<Halian|Haiku> brb upgrading
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<HaikuUser> Upgrade successful, but it's still lag spiking D:
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<OscarL> Halian|Haiku: that's with the HP keyboard?
<Halian|Haiku> OscarL: yep :(
<OscarL> k. just trying to rule out some problem with the Walmart one :-D
<OscarL> Tried that one out already?
<Halian|Haiku> media_addon_server is the only hogging CPU, but the lag spikes persist after killing it
<OscarL> (to see if the HID isse got resolved at least)
<Halian|Haiku> OscarL: nottttttttt yet
<OscarL> Halian|Haiku: you might wanna try blacklisting your soundcard, and see if that helps.
<OscarL> I'll search for the docs on that...
<OscarL> Relevant part.... the last "Example".
<Halian|Haiku> It's a USB devvvvvvvv (my mic)
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<Halian|Haiku> Unplugging it seems to have stopped the lag spikes
<OscarL> Welp... progress!
<Halian|Haiku> How do I blacklist a USB device?
<Halian|Haiku> ...or I could just leave it unplugged X3
<OscarL> I would suggest you to do the following... remove the "/var/system/log/syslog" file and reboot. Plug that USB device... wait for the spikes to occurr, unplug the device... and get a copy of that syslog to attach on a new ticket
<Halian|Haiku> OK
<OscarL> (along with the output of "listusb")
<OscarL> I'm not sure if blacklisting a particular USB device is possible.
<OscarL> We need to ask to the actual developers, or more experienced users.
<Halian|Haiku> And no lag spikes when plugging it back in
<Halian|Haiku> 0d8c:0030 /dev/bus/usb/0/12 "C-Media Electronics, Inc." "JLab GO Talk" ver. 0201
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<HaikuUser> OscarL: now that I'm actively testing for them, lag spikes are gone \(º_O)/
<HaikuUser> Also the Walmart keyboard works
<HaikuUser> good enough for me! brb rebooting again to test updated bootloader
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<Halian> Back; new bootloader works just the same as old, that is to say I have to explicitly choose the boot volume every time, as the initial scan picks "none"
<OscarL> Sorry, I was away.
<OscarL> Good on the lack of spikes and working keyboard! Yay! :-D
<OscarL> Regarding the bootloader, I'm of no help here at all, as all my systems are BIOS/MBR only :-(
<Halian> It's alright
<Halian> I have rEFInd set up to hand off to the Haiku bootloader
<Halian> (or BOOTMGR.EFI or GRUB as necessary)
<Halian> Now if only I could access my btrfs Linux partition :P
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<Halian> :( no sound. the Media prefpane doesn't even show my microphone
* Halian tries front (well, top) panel audio
<Halian> that works
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] humdingerb pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/08152db1bc1c...04ff43669fbb
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] humdingerb 04ff436 - Filer: bump revision
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<OscarL> Halian: you're running the nightlies or beta4?
<Halian> OscarL: I updated the repo to beta4
<OscarL> k
<OscarL> Could you take a look at this ticket, to see if it matches the exact problems you had with your Walmart keyboard?
<OscarL> And if so...
<OscarL> it would be nice if you added a comment there, stating on which version it didn't worked, the USB id of the device, and your current revision.
<OscarL> (that has the kb working at last)
<OscarL> ticket in question https://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/17937
<OscarL> just compare your "symptoms" with the ones from the description... the rest of the comments drift a bit.
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<Halian> Done
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<Halian> >_< Even though I have python3 installed already, youtube_dl and frontends thereto refuse to install, on the grounds that nothing provides python3
<OscarL> re: the USB keyboard ticket... Thanks!
<OscarL> Regarding that Python issue...
<OscarL> There were some issues when changing the default Python version from 3.7 to 3.9, sadly.
<OscarL> I think I remember a ticket for that... let me see.
<Halian> Ah
<OscarL> There was a similar issue for yt_dlp: https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/issues/7336
<OscarL> Apparently that should work... and in my experience (on Windows) yt_dlp is already better than youtube_dl
<Halian> Right now I'm using smtube; will have to try yt_dlp
<OscarL> You may want to open a ticket there (Haikuports), regarding that "nothing provides" issue for youtube_dl.
<OscarL> (as I don't see one open already)
<OscarL> I'll add a mention to that on https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/issues/7475, just in case.
<OscarL> regarding yt_dlp vs youtube_dl, most of the time, you can simply create a "youtube_dl" symlink to yt_dlp, and programs that use youtuve_dl might not even notice the difference :-D
<matt3> is there a tutorial to change repo to b4 ?
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<matt3> ok, thanks ...
<OscarL> Basically... "> pkgman drop-repo Haiku", followed by: "> pkgman add https://eu.hpkg.haiku-os.org/haiku/r1-beta4/$(getarch)/current"
<matt3> a question : nihtly is better ?
<OscarL> and then "> pkgman full-sync"
<OscarL> At the moment, there's not much difference between the beta4 and the nightlies...
<matt3> is more fresh a nightly or a beta4 ?
<OscarL> nightly always have the latests commits, but right now, there's not much difference between the two.
<matt3> ok, thanks
<matt3> very kind OscarL
<matt3> :)
<OscarL> no problem matt3!
<OscarL> The buildmasters (the one compiling the packages for Haikuports) runs beta4 now. Same as I do now (while working on some package recipes).
<matt3> cu later ;)
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<matt3> hi, full sync done.
<matt3> nightly ...
<matt3> it works
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<matt3> hi rennj
<matt3> just hello :)
<matt3> only for friendship ...
<matt3> only for friendship to everybody :)
<AmyMalik> :o
<AmyMalik> welcome
<matt3> thanks
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<matt3> update : full sync in virtualbox + full sync native : they works ... ;)
<matt3> native @ thinkcentre + virtualbox @ win10 ...
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<matt3> ops : they work ... ;)
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<PulkoMandy> Bootloader not finding the partition would normally be because your Haiku partition does not have the right GPT type. I think there are recent fixes to drivesetup to set the correct type by default so maybe try deleting and recreating your system partition (not just reformating)
<matt3> ah, PulkoMandy : in /system/app there is bootman ...
<matt3> boot from usb and after run /system/app/bootmanager
<matt3> choose from uefi or legacy ... ;)
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<matt3> yab is ok, a basic ... but, what about porting freebasic 4 consolle ?
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<Halian> PulkoMandy: I wouldn't be surprised; it's set to "Windows data" right now
<Halian> DriveSetup here fails at trying to change it, though, so will have to boot from a live USB
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<Halian> I was able to nondestructively change the partition identifier, which means Haiku now boots seamlessly (though it takes a moment to go from rocket icon to GUI) :D
<Halian> However, the lag spikes returned, so I'll presently file a ticket for that
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<botifico> [haiku/infrastructure] kallisti5 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haiku/infrastructure/compare/7d71866474e2...044956febfc4
<botifico> [haiku/infrastructure] kallisti5 044956f - concourse: Upgrade to new container to solve size-only; add md5
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<Halian> What's the best (if any) way to listen to Spotify on Haiku? Its web client won't work in any of the browsers, since none of them support DRM
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<da_snowbird> howdy haiku-ers
<AmyMalik> e
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<Halian> da_snowbird: h
<da_snowbird> h Halian
<Halian> :3
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<andreasdr[m]> Arr
<andreasdr[m]> Good morning
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<andreasdr[m]> We have a mighty internet disfunction. Arrr. Nice. In the middle of berlin in 2022.
<Halian> andreasdr[m]: yikes
<andreasdr[m]> Hi there.
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<Halian> Hihi
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<matt3> ftp : a lot of 0 and 1 over tcp/ip ;)
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<Anarchos> Is web+ stable enough in order to do some pull requests on github easily ?
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<BlueSky76> Anarchos: Yes, from my experience you can do PRs quite safely from Web+. Did it quite a few times lately. The only annoying thing with Web+ and Github (not only on pull requests) is that you can't read the text on some buttons. As long as you're familiar enough with Github to know which button is the right one, you're good ;-)
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<Anarchos> BlueSky76 i use alt
<Anarchos> alt090°
<Anarchos> +alt A to select text(sorry for noise) and reveal hidden button labels
<BlueSky76> Anarchos: Ah, that's great. Thanks for the hint.
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<AlienSoldier> that is interesting, the about and it's replicant are the same, but they don't list the same kernel date.
<AlienSoldier> one say nov 13 the other nov 27
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<gingi> hi there
<andreasdr[m]> Hi Hingi
<andreasdr[m]> gingi
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<gingi> christmas vacation!
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<AlienSoldier> quite early
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<gingi> yes ... :)
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<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes pushed 3 commits to master [+2/-0/±3] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/04ff43669fbb...655df3db34b2
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] davidkaroly d9e308f - filezilla: enable x86 secondary architecture
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] davidkaroly d603578 - filezilla: add icon
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] davidkaroly 655df3d - filezilla: initialize XDG vars
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