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<mmu_man> am I the only one with issue pushing to gitlab?
<mmu_man> it slows down and hangs around 17%
<mmu_man> anyway, zz
<LeWolfYT> i have been in this irc channel for ages
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<nuxxer> howdy. unable to get network working through ethernet rtl8168 on r1/beta4. constantly tries to configure and fails with "No link". tried dhcp and static to no avail.
<nuxxer> rtl81xx driver seems to be loaded (net interface is /dev/net/rtl81xx/0). saw previous now-closed bugs on it that also match what i see in syslog: watchdog timeout, Timeout shift, etc.
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<Begasus> g'morning peeps
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<HaikuUser> t
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<jhj> Hi. I upgraded Haiku today, and now it won't boot (in QEMU). It says: https://pastebin.com/raw/RHKB1L2E
<jhj> In both QEMU from git master and currently released QEMU.
<jhj> If I disable virtualization (KVM) and boot emulated, it does start up, but there no desktop, just the cursor on black. I can SSH in though.
<jhj> Not sure if this is a known problem or if I can help debug it somehow.
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<jhj> Yeah, today is broken, booted back to 2023-08-04 and it's OK.
<jhj> rev57199 is broken, I'm reverting to 57160.
<Begasus> no expert here, maybe you can mention it on the forum? (things can brake, but knowing what caused it could be helpfull for the main devs)
<jhj> I probably should do that, yeah.
<jhj> I guess logging the debug serial output at boot might be helpful.
<jhj> I was hoping someone knew already.
<Begasus> or maybe file a ticket at the bugtracker with that info
<nuxxer> <.< tfw im flashing 57199 rn
* Begasus sticks to R1B4 if not needed otherwise :)
<nuxxer> reminds me that it might be a good idea to pastebin my own issue.
<jhj> nuxxer: Let me know if it gives you a problem.
<jhj> Actually, I should update again real quick and capture the debug messages real quick.
<jhj> It might give some helpful information.
<nuxxer> i always have problems, so itll surely be a surprise if it doesnt
<nuxxer> i got the previous nightly on download now tho if it does. im fresh to haiku
<jhj> Ah. I usually try to update once a week or so. But mostly because I use it in a CI pipeline and want to use the latest to catch problems early.
<jhj> But it's not useful for that if it won't boot :)
<nuxxer> real hardware, get kdl on 57199
<jhj> Well, at least it isn't just me.
<Begasus> nah, we've been all there :)
<nuxxer> btw, here is pastebin of the syslog and my ethernet device for my rtl81xx issue i mentioned earlier: https://pastebin.com/MNGSh68S
<nuxxer> the only reason im even trying nightly builds.
<jhj> I've got a little free time, I'll try older builds until it works.
<jhj> Trying 57197 ...
<jhj> OK, very very weird.
<jhj> 57197 works.
<jhj> The 57918 and 57199 commits seem pretty harmless.
<nuxxer> gotta blame somebody!
<jhj> A bigger patch, but, nothing that should stop it from booting, all userland.
<jhj> *confused*
<nuxxer> bad build?
<jhj> Yeah, maybe something went wrong when it made those packages.
<nuxxer> i just realized i made a minor mistake in my flashing so i might have to try 57199 again
<PulkoMandy> It's the switch to gcc13. That may lead to some kernel or drivers code being miscompiled
<jhj> PulkoMandy: Hiya! o/
<jhj> Oh, so the whole system was switched. That could cause a difference.
<nuxxer> nvm i flashed 57197 correctly and im getting kdl on it after splash
<jhj> PulkoMandy: Is there any information that would be helpful for debugging?
<nuxxer> [thread stopped: 806 "app_server"]
<nuxxer> well, time to go down the list of nightlys
<jhj> Actually, the serial output doesn't seem overly helpful.
<jhj> It stopped in package_daemon activating packages.
<jhj> The last device that was doing anything seemed to be ipro1000/em
<PulkoMandy> jhj: see ticket 18541 on the bugtracker
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<jhj> PulkoMandy: Yes, most certainly seems related. I'll add my two cents.
<jhj> Posted, with an easy reproducer.
<jhj> PulkoMandy: Oh, I just saw you support virtio networking.
<jhj> I switched to virtio and it works fine. I'll update the bug report.
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<jhj> I also gave a comment on ticket 15143.
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<jhj> Oh, weird.
<jhj> Also on current WebPositive, https://dps8m.gitlab.io/dps8m/ doesn't show certain elements, like the project news on the main page, or the notice boxes on the mailing list page.
<jhj> It shows them only in the light mode, not in dark mode.
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<Begasus> PulkoMandy, still using vasm? (looking into bumping it to version 1.9d)
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<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] pulkomandy pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-1/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/cb5230807a98...c4e81836c97f
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus c4e8183 - vasm, bump version
<Begasus> ;)
<Begasus> Thanks for checking :)
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<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+2/-0/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/c4e81836c97f...ee84cc1ee57b
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] hoanga ee84cc1 - retawq: new recipe (#8888)
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<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+2/-2/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/ee84cc1ee57b...3b03b1421971
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 3b03b14 - vc, bump version (#9162)
<andreasdr[m]> Hi there
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<waddlesplash> nuxxer: there's an open ticket about this problem, it's some sort of regression but I don't have a handle on the cause and haven't investigated much
<waddlesplash> jhj: having the cursor on black is interesting, can you capture a syslog of such a boot and attach it as .txt to the ticket?
<waddlesplash> nuxxer: thread stopped app server sounds like appserver crash not KDL. try fail safe video mode in bootloader options.
<waddlesplash> jhj: it sounds as though this problem only happens in KVM which is very odd
<waddlesplash> nuxxer: btw the problem jhj is talking about doesn't affect bare metal, only KVM. I booted on bare metal and ran that driver and it works fine.
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<Begasus> PulkoMandy, the thread issue with WebPositive is mostly with github (if I close that tab the thread(s) stops)
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<Anarchos> hello mmu_man
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<Begasus> nielx[m], comments on the binutils PR were made here on R1B4 64bit :)
<Begasus> seems to work fine on 64bit with a few checks
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<Begasus> reboot to 32bit ...
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<Anarchos> i consider buying a new laptop to use haiku as primary OS, with a 500-600€ budget.What do you advise me which is haiku compatible ?
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<cocobean> ThinkPad X1 Nano - $560 (13", new) on Ebay.
<cocobean> Reference the BeSly HW listings.https://hardware.besly.de/index.php?headline=Hardwarelist
<cocobean> Also: Pentium 4-based basic laptops usually run <= $250 USD with 4GB RAM.
<Anarchos> pentium seems under powerful enough...
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<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-2/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/3b03b1421971...58e0dc2f146e
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 58e0dc2 - groff, bump version, enable 32bit build (#9163)
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<Begasus> closing down, cu peeps!
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<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] pulkomandy pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/58e0dc2f146e...3fc4bbc23bef
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] pulkomandy 3fc4bbc - Noto-Emoji: mirror sources on haiku-files.org
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] pulkomandy pushed 1 commit to master [hrev57206] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=9c8f4ac5d6ca+%5Ecc6365c7aa12
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 9c8f4ac5d6ca - Remove usage of some deprecated C++ features
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