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<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] augiedoggie pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-1/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/394ddd6b4265...0a83e0dbb2d2
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] augiedoggie 0a83e0d - qview: update to 6.0 (#9188)
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<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/0a83e0dbb2d2...d61d65ec9d96
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] kenmays d61d65e - agg: perspective transformation update (#9185)
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<Begasus> g'morning peeps
<nielx[m]> morning
<Begasus> morning nielx[m]
<Begasus> I'm guessing we got a green light for gcc?
<jmairboeck> Good morning Begasus!
<jmairboeck> The lilypond build finished over night and it works. We still don't have an official announcement yet, though.
<nielx[m]> Begasus: let's go for it
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] nielx pushed 1 commit to master [hrev57209] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=d2edfdd11dd2+%5Eef611e96c45d
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] d2edfdd11dd2 - docs: document the steps to update GCC buildtools
<x512[m]> nielx: Is it still possible to build Haiku with GCC 11 when GCC 13 is installed on host Haiku?
<nielx[m]> x512: I don't think so. libstdc++ that is bundled with GCC 13 requires GCC 13. The build pulls in the GCC 13 version syslibs for x86_gcc2 and x86_64
<Begasus> thanks jmairboeck, will merge in a sec :)
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+2/-2/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/d61d65ec9d96...0201bae0d143
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] nielx 0201bae - GCC: bump to 13.2.0 (#9174)
<Begasus> biab
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<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+2/-2/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/0201bae0d143...4908ad613c8d
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] jmairboeck 4908ad6 - lilypond: bump version (#9180)
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-1/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/4908ad613c8d...25e8a8ce9a5b
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 25e8a8c - masterpiece, revbump for python, switch SOURCE_URI (#9175)
<PulkoMandy> Hello, is there some help needed with the python migration?
<Begasus> Hi PulkoMandy, only a few thing left on the reports, once lilypond would be finished it would narrow down the list
<jmairboeck> It seems that all packages depending on cmd:python3 need to be rebuilt.
<Begasus> that was to be expected jmairboeck
<Begasus> PulkoMandy, maybe create a new tag for haikuporter?
<PulkoMandy> I'm looking into an issue reported by davidkaroly about creating source packages first
<Begasus> ok
<Begasus> some of the "older" llvm packages still rely on cmd:python (2.7) :P
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<botifico> [haikuports/haikuporter] pulkomandy pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuporter/compare/cac0903d0f2c...6d68ae1992c3
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuporter] pulkomandy 6d68ae1 - Fix conditions for creating source packages
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<botifico> [haikuports/haikuporter] pulkomandy pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±4] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuporter/compare/6d68ae1992c3...f86ae173c66b
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuporter] pulkomandy f86ae17 - Prepare for release 1.2.8
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuporter] pulkomandy tagged f86ae17 as 1.2.8 https://github.com/haikuports/haikuporter/commit/f86ae173c66bfc9315fe41a340c68289f78379a2
<botifico> [haikuporter] pulkomandy created tag 1.2.8 - https://github.com/haikuports/haikuporter
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] autocommitter pushed 1 commit to master [hrev57210] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=0d07b1d98a7c+%5Ed2edfdd11dd2
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 0d07b1d98a7c - Update translations from Pootle
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/25e8a8ce9a5b...3c1020f50c69
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] davidkaroly 3c1020f - nmap: migrate to gcc11 (#7823)
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+2/-2/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/3c1020f50c69...8402ef2db241
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 8402ef2 - iniparse, bump version, switch python dependency (#9189)
<Begasus> another one down :)
<Begasus> PulkoMandy, will you do the update on haikuporter, or wait a bit for confirmation fix?
<PulkoMandy> My fix is not working as I want
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<Begasus> ah, wait then :)
<PulkoMandy> I will update the recipe when it works…
<Begasus> thanks!
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<botifico> [haikuports/haikuporter] pulkomandy pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuporter/compare/f86ae173c66b...54b3b29fe199
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuporter] pulkomandy 54b3b29 - Fix checks for source packages again
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuporter] pulkomandy pushed 1 commit [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuporter/compare/f86ae173c66b...54b3b29fe199
<Begasus> only downside with merging things like gcc and lilypond is that both probably will take the whole day to complete at the buildmasters :)
<Begasus> glib2_devel-2.57.1-2-x86_gcc2.hpkg ... should switch to virtual here to check that one ...
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] pulkomandy pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-1/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/8402ef2db241...2aa8f6c467ea
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] pulkomandy 2aa8f6c - Recipe for Haikuporter 1.2.8, move to Python 3.10
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/2aa8f6c467ea...20a98c219205
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 20a98c2 - gyp, revbump for python changes (#9190)
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<Begas_VM> k, glib2 for gcc2 building ...
<Begas_VM> bugger ... next issue ... env: ‘python’: No such file or directory
<PulkoMandy> If we remove python2 we can make the python3 package provide the "python" command
<Begas_VM> python2.7 is gone already PulkoMandy
<Begas_VM> removed yesterday (also mentioned in your post at the forum) :)
<Begas_VM> and yes, that probably would solve some issues there :)
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<Begas_VM> progressing with: #!/usr/bin/env python3
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<Begas_VM> python3.10 should probable still need to provide cmd:python3 to not break existing packages (aside from cmd:python then)
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<vik24rus> hello! i am new)) install haiku. sorry for bad eng) 2 questions. haiku prefer console or gui?
<vik24rus> where not oficial repo list? ) example for install firefox...
<Begas_VM> no firefox on Haiku
<Begas_VM> Haiku is also Desktop orientated (so GUI I guess for answering your question)
<Begas_VM> It comes with a default software application where you can install/uninstall packages with called HaikuDepot
<Begas_VM> or you can use pkgman in Terminal for it
<vik24rus> ok. what is the browser to watch youtube?))
<Begas_VM> default browser in Haiku is webPositive
<Begas_VM> a few third-party browsers can be installed also (like Otter-browser, Epiphany ...)
<vik24rus> in vmware no work. writes - cannot played int this browser)
<vik24rus> web positive
<vik24rus> but i played hexen 2)))
<Begas_VM> You can open HaikuDepot from the menu and search for otter for instance
<Begas_VM> :)
<Begas_VM> k, glib2 for gcc2 fixed :)
<Begas_VM> biab
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<vik24rus> yes, otter work ) haiku cute os))
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<waddlesplash> jmairboeck: could you perhals try making a custom build with the dec21xxx driver and the freebsd compat layer built with -O0?
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<waddlesplash> I haven't had time to inspect the syslog you uploaded just yet
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<Begasus> k, PR for glib2 (gcc2) online
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<nekobot> [haiku/buildtools] tqh pushed 1 commit to master [btrev43207] - https://git.haiku-os.org/buildtools/log/?qt=range&q=0bb5624b5744+%5E1130916a5e4b
<nekobot> [haiku/buildtools] 0bb5624b5744 - libgcc: fix config for arm64
<Begas_VM> OscarL, if you read this :) could you have a look at bakefile? getting some weird error with configure/python3.10: SyntaxError: Missing parentheses in call to 'print'. Did you mean print(...)?
<x512[m]> bakefile :)
<Begasus> didn't invent the name :) (checked with 0.2.12 and 0.2.13 (latest tag))
<waddlesplash> anybody heard of these symptoms before? I haven't, it sounds baffling
<Begas_VM> errr ... new version for bakefile needs java cmd :/
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<SHCDGH> hii
<Begas_VM> Low
<Begas_VM> k, not going anywhere with bakefile ...
<SHCDGH> ?
<Begasus> broken package atm, not used for something else, so no big deal atm
<SHCDGH> ok
<SHCDGH> Why some names have [m] in their names?
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<x512[m]> SHCDGH: Because use Matrix.
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<Habbie> x512[m], they already left
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<Begasus> reboot ...
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<ermo[m]> x512: What's the current status of the HD79xx driver stuff? ^^
<x512[m]> Not touched it significantly.
<jmairboeck> waddlesplash: using a self-compiled version of dec21xxx with -O0 successfully boots (using the host compiler gcc 13.1)
<x512[m]> RX550 that I got seems broken, it cause reboots even without using any drivers.
<jmairboeck> waddlesplash: according to listimage, it loaded the non-packaged version, without needing to blocklist anything
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<jmairboeck> which is good, because in Hyper-V, text mode is broken, so the boot menu only displays garbage and isn't usable
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/20a98c219205...eb9d63a9895c
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus eb9d63a - glib2, revbump for python changes, build fixes for gcc2 (#9191)
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<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus f86307c - libsvm, revbump for python changes (#9192)
<HaikuUser> hello
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/f86307ccb49c...fc6804f7aee1
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus fc6804f - opensubdiv, revbump for python changes (#9193)
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<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 994d288 - asciinema, revbump for python changes (#9194)
<waddlesplash> jmairboeck: bootloader can be hacked to use a graphical menu
<waddlesplash> jmairboeck: O0 only in dec21xxx or also in fbsd compat directory?
<waddlesplash> please comment with that finding on the ticket, if you haven't yet, at any rate
<jmairboeck> both, and I already added it to the ticket
<jmairboeck> the network doesn't seem to work though, but I'm not sure if that is Haiku's or Hyper-V's fault
<waddlesplash> hmm strange
<waddlesplash> check syslog I suppose
<jmairboeck> I got an IP from DHCP, but ping shows 100% packet loss
<waddlesplash> ping sometimes doesn't work on VMs
<waddlesplash> try some http
<jmairboeck> ah, now it does work, at least SoftwareUpdater is showing something now
<jmairboeck> it is just very slow, which is kind of expected
<waddlesplash> ok excellent
<waddlesplash> now, try to narrow down which file(s) need the O0
<waddlesplash> obvious place to start is by cleaning both directories and setting O0 on only one of them
<waddlesplash> (or just touch instead of clean)
<Begasus> on llvm, are the "older" packages still required? (checking llvm7 now)
<waddlesplash> Begasus: no idea, probably not...?
<waddlesplash> don't delete them yet but maybe deactivate and see what happens
<Begasus> llvm16 is in the pipeline, seems reduntant
<Begasus> guess it's like with the boost ones, time to clean up some of the older ones
<Begasus> but before doing I want to make sure they still build (unlike some of those boost ones)
<Begasus> looks like atm llvm9 and llvm12 are mostly used (not that much also) in recipes
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<Luca91> Hi all
<Luca91> Begasus I updated the PR with the proposed fixed, but I'm not able to reproduce the cpu/ram issue on my haku vm
<jmairboeck> waddlesplash: using -O0 only for dec21xxx itself is enough apparently (see also the ticket)
<waddlesplash> interesting
<waddlesplash> how about O1?
<jmairboeck> I'll try that
<jmairboeck> I added -O0 to SubdirCCFlags, so it applies to the whole directory
<jmairboeck> with -O1 I get a different KDL: SMEP violation
<jmairboeck> and then an "assert failed" and "failed to acquire spinlock for a long time", both somewhere in the scheduler. I guess these 2 are expected in this case?
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<jmairboeck> waddlesplash: I added a new log with -O1 to the ticket
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<waddlesplash> jmairboeck: that fault doesn't make any sense at all...
<waddlesplash> the first one I mean
<waddlesplash> sounds like memory corruption. does it reproduce?
<x512[m]> Undefined behavior in code -> compiler can do anything -> memory corruption.
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<waddlesplash> x512[m]: quite possible, yes.
<waddlesplash> I guess UBsan might be a good idea here.
<jmairboeck> yes, I actually booted it a second time. The first time I had PuTTY not attached.
<jmairboeck> for extracting the log
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<Begasus> llvm7 still ok (build)
<Begasus> k, gcc update ready for 64bit :)
<jmairboeck> I think I'll try the dec21xxx once more then :)
<jmairboeck> *dec21xxx driver
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<jmairboeck> if this even works, could be that I have to update the build packages for gcc_syslibs
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<makr> .
<Habbie> (
<jmairboeck> it boots :)
<jmairboeck> I'll revert the -O1 option and try again using the default settings
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<makr> It's late at night.
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<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports.cross] tqh pushed 3 commits to master [+2/-0/±2] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports.cross/compare/975321e40e6f...a06ae0bb26c4
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<botifico> [haikuports.cross] tqh deleted branch tqh_github_actions_bootstrap_arm64 - https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports.cross
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<Begasus> jmairboeck, build failure on 32bit for lilypond :/
<jmairboeck> oh, let me see
<tqh> oops, should have been other channel :)
<jmairboeck> this looks like a failure somewhere in tex
<Begasus> ;)
<Begasus> eeps jmairboeck
<jmairboeck> that will be tricky to debug I think
<Begasus> meanwhile, llvm12 build ok here
<tercaL> Does Haiku's package repository have (or will it have) nginx and php-fpm for web serving stuff?
<jmairboeck> Begasus: "xetex: fatal: Could not undump 578839 4-byte item(s) from /boot/home/config/var/texmf/web2c/xetex/xetex.fmt." (whatever that means)
<Begasus> tercaL nginx is already around
<Begasus> no idea there too jmairboeck :)
<jmairboeck> but at least that is most likely the actual error
<Begasus> checking rebuild for llvm in a bit
<Begasus> bugger, PR for llvm16 still uses python3.9 ...
<jmairboeck> it is maybe related with fonts somehow: https://tex.stackexchange.com/a/584133/52759 -- is fontconfig acting strange again?
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* Begasus ducks, didn't touch it :)
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<jmairboeck> that was just a wild guess. Problem is, I don't have a big enough 32 bit system to build texlive and/or lilypond with.
<Begasus> oh eeps, seems there is still llvm5 around :P
<jmairboeck> did it work before with version 2.24.1-4?
<Begasus> yeah, only did a check not so long ago (also with frescobaldi)
<Begasus> err ... nope, that was on 64bit :)
<Begasus> not looking forward on rebuilding texlive on 32bit :P
<jmairboeck> but there were changes to texinfo in 32 bit, that broke it probably
* Begasus ducks for real now ... :)
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<jmairboeck> yes, it is that: texinfo 6.1 is too old for lilypond, we had that problem before already
<jmairboeck> can we add secondaryArch support to texinfo 7?
<Begasus> should be possible yes, need to make sure it doesn't brake anythin, maybe nielx[m] can give some information there?
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<Begasus> anything*
<Begasus> 1579/4990 ... not there yet ...
<jmairboeck> anyway: see the discussion here for the lilypond issue: https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/pull/7811
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<Begasus> maybe create a secondary arch package for 7.0.3 then jmairboeck? then no changes to 6.1 would be needed
<Begasus> whoops, that's what you meant before :)
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<jmairboeck> I'll try that
<Begasus> shouldn't brake anything related to building gcc2
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<jmairboeck> hm, texinfo_x86 doesn't build, perl aborts somewhere during the build
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<jmairboeck> I think I'll investigate that tomorrow though
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<Begasus> k, done for today
<Begasus> cu peeps!
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<HaikuUser> Goodness... lots of users here
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<zdykstra> Haiku is loved by all :)
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