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<Begasus>
Hola OscarL :)
<OscarL>
Good day, Begasus :-)
* OscarL
reads the setuptools changelog, trying to decide if updating it to latest version looks will cause issues or not :-D
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<OscarL>
(need setuptools for 3.11 before pip3.11, funny how that works!)
<Begasus>
look for setuptools_scm too then (to keep both on par) :)
<OscarL>
My idea, at least for now, it is to only provide the minimun to support using Python 3.11 with pip3.11 (without providing .hpkgs for "_python311").
<Begasus>
thought you would stay away from there for now? :P
<OscarL>
so we can actually test Python 3.11, but without committing to package everything for that version.
<OscarL>
Maybe I wasn't clear enough... you know me... tends to happen :-)... Lets see if I can express it better.
<Begasus>
I'm not using pip, so I can stand having it not around :)
<Begasus>
np :)
<OscarL>
To properly test Python 3.11 (before we fully "commit" to support it), we need to be able to use pip3.11 with it (for pure python packages, at least).
<OscarL>
that way we can install modules, without pkgman/haikuports intervention.
<Begasus>
got you there :)
<OscarL>
and see if there's something wrong with Py3.11. Users willing to test-drive it... will be able to do so.
<OscarL>
after we provide "pip_python311" (and its dependencies), we can just let it be, while we do cleanup on the rest, or wait for 3.12 :-D
<OscarL>
updating pip seemed straight forward enough... but... needs setuptools... and then I remember seen some packages that actually require setuptools < 60 (or 65, can't recall)....
<OscarL>
might be too much for my weak-brain, or not... well see :-D
<OscarL>
s/well/we'll/
<Begasus>
yeah, there was one requiring older setuptools ... can't remember which one though
<OscarL>
prompt_toolkit recipe PR should be good to go, IMO. And let's see how long the 3.8 one stays up :-P
<OscarL>
Ah... gotta love a changelog section called "Breaking Changes" that's longer than the rest of sections! :-/
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<OscarL>
I think I'll just YOLO it. Let's see if we get lucky. But first... coffee (and some aspirin :-/ ).
<Begasus>
doggies ...
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<Begasus>
re
<OscarL>
Mmm, setuptools removed its copyright notice from LICENSE... so we're stuck with an outdated COPYRIGHT in its .recipe (as I can't find anything official). /me wishes he could drop COPYRIGHT from recipes.
<Begasus>
heh, always a pain there
<OscarL>
I'll end up opening an issue about it over HaikuPorter one of these days, and see what others think about it.
<OscarL>
seems they are all under /dev-python/ (as expected). Where's korli's batch-update script when you need it? :-P
<Begasus>
yeah! :)
<OscarL>
I mean... I could *try* my hands on it, I guess... I bet after the 100th attempt I'll get it more or less right :-P
<Begasus>
make sure you backup :)
<OscarL>
Would we need to update the recipes's revision number while removing "_python38" from them? /me goes to check korli's mass-update monster commit.
<OscarL>
korli did updated the recipes' revisions. Welp... time to write some python script then. But only after I update setuptools/pip.
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<Begasus>
and setuptools_scm* ? :)
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<nekobot>
[haiku/haiku] 3f2464f759bb - Debugger: implement parsing for v4 line-info
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<matt2>
is beos / haiku free ?
<OscarL>
matt2: BeOS, no. Haiku, yes.
<matt2>
o, OscarL : my dream is all oses free
<matt2>
... ok ...
<matt2>
can i help to free also the beos
<matt2>
?
<matt2>
a petition ... or a pray ?
<OscarL>
I doubt we would gain much from an open-source release of BeOS at this point in time.
<matt2>
ah, OscarL : i am crying ...
<matt2>
a lot f time ... why ...
<OscarL>
Hope those are tears of joy of how wonderfull Haiku has become :-)
<OscarL>
(just took some decades, but... who's counting, right? :-P)
<matt2>
haiku is fine ... only a strange name ... but it depends on you ... ;)
<matt2>
if it were up to me: I've been freeing everything since 1999
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<OscarL>
Soon after the OpenBeOS -> Haiku rename... I had a cat named Haiku. Guess I'm fine with the name (It wasn't my first choice when the voting happen, but it *was* one of my options :-D).
<andreasdr[m]>
Haiku is LOVE.
<andreasdr[m]>
BeOS was LOVE.
<andreasdr[m]>
:DDD
<OscarL>
IIRC, I voted: Terra / Nova / Haiku. in that order :-D
<OscarL>
good day to you, andreasdr[m]! :-)
<andreasdr[m]>
Hi OscarL, Hi matt2
<matt2>
hi AndersonTorres[m]
<matt2>
ops hi andreasdr[m]
<andreasdr[m]>
Yes. Some of my friends also call me Anderson Torres!!! Its true!!!
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<andreasdr[m]>
Oh no, I messed that up.
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<matt2>
np, andreasdr[m]
<matt2>
i messed that up me too ;)
<andreasdr[m]>
All good.
<matt2>
I never had the intellectual property of the beos ...
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<matt2>
I have never owned the be inc. ...
<matt2>
I never signed up to do companies
<matt2>
I only have the disability pension
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<OscarL>
Damn, this xonsh 0.14.1 shell (with prompt_toolkit and bash_completion enabled) is *sweet*.
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<matt2>
beos was love => be = soul => cure being and not having
<matt2>
haiku is love
<matt2>
haiku = poetry => it's good for the soul
<Begasus>
nice OscarL ;)
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<OscarL>
Seems to require "cmd:col" thou. Kind of a bummer to pull the whole unix_tools package just for that one little command :-(
<OscarL>
errr, "util_linux"
<Begasus>
jikes
<Begasus>
only on build time or runtime too?
<OscarL>
runtime :-(
<OscarL>
for some of the auto-complete functionality (that seems to parse man-pages :-D)
<OscarL>
*BSDs seem to have /bin/col... (used to be part of POSIX in older versions). Wonder if we could/should just copy one of those and add it to Haiku.
<OscarL>
I think I remember a ticket related to /bin/col on Haiku/HP, but can't find it now.
<OscarL>
BTW Begasus, "setuptools_scm" is up-to-date already, and not needed for Python 3.11 right now (as long as we don't add much "_python311" packages). Only change needed on it is to remove 3.8, but that can wait for the mass-update :-P
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<Begasus>
okido, fine there then :)
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<Begasus>
not sure if it's tied to the util_linux libraries OscarL, otherwise we could create a bin only package for that?
<Begasus>
I got one for boost1.83 here (standalone tools package)
<OscarL>
nice.
* OscarL
tries to figure out if one can just replace that call to "col -b" with some "sed" :-D
<Begasus>
contains the cmd:b2 that can be used without the boost libraries (and a few other tools)
<Begasus>
looking into gtkhtml4 today, contains a simple html editor, need to move that to a seperate tools/bin package too :)