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<Monni>
Keyboard not working in Haiku is pretty common... I had to use just mouse on one laptop... It was fun to "write" longer text and commands in Terminal...
<botifico>
[haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes 63e1dd4 - qt6_base: use ICU backend for QTimeZone
<Begasus>
doesn't work with Neochat ... (or not used by it)
<Begasus>
bbl
<dovsienko>
"upgrade package haiku-r1~beta5_hrev58197_dirty-1 to r1~beta5_hrev58198-1 from repository Haiku" -- not dirty anymore!
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<dovsienko>
augiedoggie_: no, it is stable, and if you use the space bar to get to the bootloader, it responds to the keyboard
<dovsienko>
then enabling debug options makes it clear debug paging does not work, ACPI does not work and USB times out if anything is plugged in
<dovsienko>
and if you work around that, it ends up with no video output anyway, so it is just not a good hardware for Haiku
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<Monni>
Support for any hardware starts with a lot of broken features and developer with too much coffee... Haiku was designed to work 100% with very specific hardware combination and support for everything else was added gradually...
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<Begasus>
didn't even knew Lazarus could rebuild itself :D
<Monni>
Begasus: Rebuilding itself nowadays is quite essential feature...
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<Begasus>
I know Monni, but thought that was somehow broken due to read-only locations :)
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<Begasus>
saves new binary in ~/.lazarus/bin
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<Monni>
Begasus: Finished packaging gcc... Now just need to retry compiling using gfortran ;)
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<Begasus[m]>
+1 progress? ;)
<Monni>
Begasus[m]: Instant KDL ;)
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<Begasus>
down to .... :P
<Monni>
Begasus: Nah... it just started building gcc from scratch... Might take a few hours ;)
<Monni>
Begasus: I didn't even expect first or second build to go all the way... Every step it gives different error and I try to figure out how to fix it ;)
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<Begasus>
will keep you busy Monni :P
<Monni>
Begasus: Nothing else to do on pay day ;)
<Begasus>
lol
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<Monni>
Begasus: I like going shopping on Saturday, because then usually there is less people around, so easier to find what I want...
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<JackDaniel>
Hi there! FileZilla seems to be blocked when I try to copy files on my ftp server. Is there another gui alternative app to transfer files and folders?
<MonniTheCat>
FileZilla needs sftp enabled on the server... It isn't always enabled by default...
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<dovsienko>
JackDaniel: how is it blocked?
<MonniTheCat>
Normal FTP doesn't like firewalls or NAT... FileZilla will not switch to passive mode automatically...
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<crmsnbleyd>
got networking by tethering USB from my phone lol
<MonniTheCat>
My phone has faster internet than my cable TV...
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<phschafft>
anyone here with a *BSD happy to share a listing of files from /dev?
<dovsienko>
I have FreeBSD, NetBSD and OpenBSD at hand
<dovsienko>
AMD64 and AArch64 and MIPS64 (only for OpenBSD and NetBSD). which one do you need?
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<phschafft>
I would be happy about an 'find /dev -xtype b' listing for whatever I get. :)
<JackDaniel>
FileZilla just hangs when I try to copy something. It connects, I can see all the files on the server, but when I try to copy something, it freezes
<phschafft>
considering portability of paths. so from the more systems I have samples the better. :)
<Habbie>
phschafft, what are you picking paths for?
<phschafft>
Habbie: some Perl module that will later locate devices for mount points.
<Habbie>
phschafft, oh not a haiku thing
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<phschafft>
Habbie: more as in: I have a Haiku myself so I don't need to ask about that ;)
<Habbie>
ack :)
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<phschafft>
Haiku doesn't seem to provide as much info as I would like to have, but bfs is also not on our list of supported filesystems to begin with. so it will likely end up with some base line support in the module.
<MonniTheCat>
JackDaniel: Try to switch between active and passive mode in the FileZilla settings... It most likely is waiting for a data connection that never arrives...
<phschafft>
dovsienko: thank you very much. but I would specifically need the result from that find command (or similar): all *block* devices including in subdirectories.
<JackDaniel>
@MonniTheCat: oki, thanks!
<dovsienko>
phschafft: can be done as "ls -lR" if you wish. on NetBSD find will not be useful: find: -xtype: unknown option
<phschafft>
dovsienko: sure, whatever works on the systems.
<dovsienko>
same for OpenBSD and FreeBSD
<JackDaniel>
Hmm, it's allready on pasive move
<JackDaniel>
Hmm, it's allready on pasive mode
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<phschafft>
hm, wasn't aware it's a GNU extention. sorry for the confusion.
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<MonniTheCat>
JackDaniel: The port for passive connection might be blocked somewhere between FileZilla and the FTP daemon...
<dovsienko>
phschafft: reload the page
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<crmsnbleyd>
Anyone using fish as the login shell? Whenever I close Terminal it throws an error about fish quitting
<phschafft>
thank you!
<dovsienko>
phschafft: need illumos?
<dovsienko>
Solaris is also available
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<phschafft>
the more I get the better support will be.
<phschafft>
also there are already some good hints in there. :)
<dovsienko>
okay, let me reach for a couple more hosts
<crmsnbleyd>
we got the unix wizard over here :)
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<dovsienko>
phschafft: there. AIX 7.3 is from the CFarm pool, if you need other versions of Solaris, consider requesting a free account at https://portal.cfarm.net/users/new/
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<phschafft>
:)
<phschafft>
thank you.
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<Monni>
Begasus: Started building stage 3 compiler ;)
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<BrunoSpr>
hello all, any idea where to find the "media_addon_server" settings file?
<Anarchos>
BrunoSpr there is /boot/home/config/settings/Media
<BrunoSpr>
Anarchos, ah ok I will look there, but which one is it?
<Anarchos>
BrunoSpr i do'nt know what you are looking for. I am not sure if there is such thing as "media_addon_server" settings file"
<BrunoSpr>
I try to get sound again with beta 5
<BrunoSpr>
I have a Sound Blaster live which was working before!
<BrunoSpr>
When switching to HD it will crash the media_addon_server
<BrunoSpr>
Carl_Miller wrote on the bugtracker: Also occurred on my system under beta5; the fix for me was to remove media_addon_server's settings file.
<nephele_xmpp>
crmsnbleyd: you can report errors fish throws on the haikuports github issues
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<augiedoggie_>
fish is known to be buggy, i don't remember if there is an open issue for it
<augiedoggie_>
the recipe should probably be disabled
<x512[m]>
Rust nix package fails to compile on Haiku :(
<x512[m]>
Used by a lot of things.
<Habbie>
guess it needs haiku patches?
<x512[m]>
Where can I get them?
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<Habbie>
nielx[m] no doubt has hints; I'm not sure how rust from haikuports works today either
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<BrunoSpr>
Deleting all files in settings does not work
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<dovsienko>
BrunoSpr: could possibly be one of the ~/config/settings/Media/ or ~/config/non-packaged/add-ons/media or ~/'config/settings/MediaPrefs Settings'
<BrunoSpr>
yes I will try the other locations now
<dovsienko>
arguably, instead of the crash it ought to be some useful error message
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<BrunoSpr>
dovsienko, no this one are not related, thanks anyway
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<N516[m]>
I ported llama.cpp
<N516[m]>
only to discover that no model will ever be capable to run on it T-T
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<phschafft>
oh?
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<N516[m]>
no hardware acceleration is the drawback
<N516[m]>
even the smallest models are pointless
<phschafft>
ah, I see the problem.
<Habbie>
it is my understanding that with enough memory, some tasks can make sense
<Habbie>
i've pondered putting something on the linux server in the corner that can process things overnight
<Habbie>
like, make transcripts of voice recordings
<N516[m]>
phschafft: Also I have 8 gigs of ram on my Haiku machine so that's also a drawback.
<N516[m]>
Habbie: with whisper.cpp?
<Habbie>
N516[m], that's the one yes
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<N516[m]>
<N516[m]> "I ported llama.cpp" <- Shalln't push it to the depot, would be a waste of time since nobody likely can find use for it.
<B2IA>
(andreaa71) saluti = greetings
<B2IA>
(andreaa71) da beshare = from beshare
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<dovsienko>
saluti da beshare = greetings from beshare :-)
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<B2IA>
(Dane64) Boink!
<B2IA>
(Dane64) AGMS This is a long shot, but are you around?
<B2IA>
(Dane64) Does anyone know how a person would add a carriage return in this script?
<Morgul>
I tried to compile Vision, the IRC client, and it wouldn't work because of missing the package mafefile_engine
<Morgul>
installing it, I was able to compile without issue
<Morgul>
but the recipe for Vision doesn't have makefile_engine as a build dependency. Should the recipe be updated to include it?
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<dovsienko>
makefile_engine could be an implicit dependency of the build environment, but I do not know. also in my installations it is present by default
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<Morgul>
well, the recipe has haiku_devel as build requirement, which I had installed, but that package didn't install makefile_engine
<Anarchos>
Morgul maybe a _devel package is missing ?
<Morgul>
it could be, Anarchos, some that includes makefile_engine? How to know which one can it be?
<Morgul>
Haiku has packages that install others as dependencies, right?
<Anarchos>
Morgul how did you try to compile Vision ? with haikuporter ?
<Morgul>
no, I downloaded the repository, and run make from within the src folder
<Anarchos>
with haikuporter , it should get the dependency
<Morgul>
is there help on how to use haikuporter?
<Anarchos>
Morgul many people use that : alias hp='haikuporter -S -j5 --get-dependencies --no-source-packages'
<Anarchos>
and after that, you just type "hp Vision"
<Anarchos>
haikuporter is a tool to compile packages from a clone repository of haikuports.
<Morgul>
oh, I see... and it downloads it on its own?
<Morgul>
where does it leave it? because I want to modify the source code to contribute patches
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<Anarchos>
Morgul there is a special use where haikuporter is able to exctarct the patch from your modification
<N516[m]>
does Haiku have a command to compile from portstree
<N516[m]>
similar to FreeBSD's portmaster
<Peppersawce>
I'm having a build fail on linking glew symbols: glXGetClientString glXGetProcAddressARB glXQueryVersion
<Peppersawce>
They're defined in glxew.h, I have glew_devel installed etc.
<Peppersawce>
If anybody knows what to do for those let me know :)
<Anarchos>
Peppersawce what «pkgman search file:glxew.h» says ?
<Peppersawce>
No matching packages found.
<Peppersawce>
it's in the GL headers
<Anarchos>
ok
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<Peppersawce>
there's also a version in the code but it's pretty close to the Haiku one
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<Peppersawce>
the build uses clang btw, I don't know if that changes anything
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