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<Oscar-L> I think I'll have to disable encryption on "Torrentor!". Doesn't works with neither my hacky changes, nor with the "upstream" update to libtransmission 2.93.
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<Oscar-L> Seems to be able to download beta4 .iso well enough though! As long as encryption is set to off, and provided there the trackers listed in the .torrent can be used (can't add/remove trackers from Torrentor!'s GUI it seems).
<Oscar-L> This Torrentor! looks like the good old Transmission for BeOS that Eric Petit started way back then.
<Oscar-L> good to have a native client, even if a bit flacky at the moment :-)
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<Golemwire> I managed to update to Beta5. All seems to be going well so far... my menu font choice applies to more menus now, so that's nice :)
<Golemwire> Though I'm sure that wasn't the main thing.
<waddlesplash> no, there's quite a lot more than that :)
<Skipp_OSX> heyo thank you for testing my change
<Skipp_OSX> The main thing didn't make it so the backup main thing is that the Tracker menu items should enable/disable correctly now and you get light gray backgrounds on read-only folders.
<Skipp_OSX> well for Tracker anyway, also webkit updates, network, kernel, audio, usb, all sorts of stuff
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<Oscar-L> If someone from the HaikuArchives team could review/merge https://github.com/HaikuArchives/Torrentor/pull/8, we could have a native torrent client to use for when beta5 releases :-)
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<Oscar-L> Thanks for the %edx fix waddlesplash. Seems to have fixed the weird crashes I was having (besides the git/bash ones) on 32 bits.
<waddlesplash> :)
<waddlesplash> we should try updating to a new libtransmission
<waddlesplash> *newer
<waddlesplash> is there not a package for it?
<Oscar-L> I was going one step at a time, because I had tried to update libtranmission for Torrentor in the past, and failed miserably :-)
<waddlesplash> ah
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<Oscar-L> seems libtransmission is not released separatedly from main "transmission", and our .recipe doesn't PROVIDES lib:libtransmission either.
<waddlesplash> yeah, I see that now
<waddlesplash> ok, so probably this makes sense then
<Oscar-L> according to repology, only Arch provides a separe libtransmission package.
<Oscar-L> *Arch and derived distros
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<Begasus> g'morning peeps
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<OscarL> hello Begasus.
<Begasus> Hi OscarL
<Begasus> checking latest release for cargo_c
<Begasus> build went through yesterday on both arch's for it and rav1e
<Begasus> with current one* :)
<OscarL> good!
<Begasus> 32bit buildmaster still busy with llvm, that will take some time :)
<OscarL> I got Torrentor! working relatively well. Now seeing if I can make it use libdht.so instead of the (old) one it includes.
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<Begasus> external vs internal?
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<Begasus> Hi nephele_xmpp
<OscarL> The intention is to make it use the external one.
<Begasus> +1
<OscarL> but there are some incompatible changes to deal with first.
<OscarL> so I might try updating the internal version first, so I can hack it while testing things, without disturbing system libdht.so.
<OscarL> Begasus: if you do some tests on beta5 32 bits... make sure to update to hrev57937+90. It fixes crashes left and right for me :-)
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<OscarL> Web+ downloads seem to work.
<OscarL> mmm, I might have an old one on 32 bits? 1.9.11
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<Begasus> will fire up 32bit in a bit :)
<OscarL> mmm, seems I need to update libtransmission too to be able to use libdht.
<Begasus> errr ... both on master here
<Begasus> ok, are the r1beta5 repos up and functional?
<OscarL> worked for me.
<OscarL> but 64 and 32 bits installs using r1beta5 repos
<OscarL> s/but/both/
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<Begasus> this could be tricky now, master hrev is ahead of beta repo
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<OscarL> that's why I swithched to beta5 as soon as possible.
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<OscarL> mmm, would be nice to split transmission into _cli and _gui, and see if we can make it provide lib:libtransmission while we're at it :-)
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<Begasus> biab
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<Begasus> k, transition to beta5 went fine on 32bit
<OscarL> 53 MiB free... I might need to remove some stuff :-)
* Begasus sounds alarm!!!
<Begasus> 50.59MiB free ... oof :D
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<Begasus> MiB/GiB* :)
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<Begasus> no cookies phschafft? :'(
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<Begasus> whee! grabbing cargo_c-0.10.3-1-x86_64.hpkg and moving it to /Opslag/haikuports/packages/cargo_c-0.10.3-1-x86_64.hpkg :D
<phschafft> nephele said I should keep it low...
<Begasus> nephele isn't around ;)
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* phschafft then secretly gets some cookies for Begasus.
<phschafft> mau also erysdren.
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<Begasus> thank you sir! :D
<phschafft> :)
<Begasus> k, rav1e only needs revbump, still on par
<phschafft> erysdren: ping me when around.
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<erysdren> phschafft hiya, what's up
<erysdren> i'm around for a bit
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<Begasus> crossing fingers ... reboot
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<Begasus> still alive :D
<Anarchos> hello
<Begasus> Hi Anarchos
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<nephele> THe last couple of days, every time I start Haiku it behaves as if the shift key was pressed in. But after pressing it once it stops. The keyboard works normally otherwise, so i'm struggeling to see if this is a hw problem or something with haiku
<Begasus> Fetching package for haiku >= r1~beta5_hrev58013-1 ...
<Begasus> now how do I find out where it requires this?
<Begasus> Hi nephele
<Anarchos> Begasus nice ! : KERN: acpi_accel: acpi_accel_init_driver \_SB_.ACCE :)
<nephele> haiku is always a dependency of packages iirc
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<Begasus> yeah I know nephele
<Begasus> just switched to beta5 repo and did a full-sync
<Anarchos> is genio better than paladin ?
<Begasus> guess there is something left behind from previous builds ...
<Begasus> nice Anarchos! (me has no clue about it as usual) :)
<Anarchos> Begasus i means my accelerometer driver is loaded
<Anarchos> though it needs work to go further the init
* phschafft quickly hides the cookies with Begasus as nephele joins.
<phschafft> erysdren: wanted to discuss address space layouts a little with you.
<Begasus> bugger
<Begasus> progress then Anarchos!
<Anarchos> yes !
<OscarL> nephele: regarding your keyboard issue. I had a similar problem after switching from beta4 to nightlies/beta5. Solved it by removing my keymap file and re-creating it (I had one modified to add NumLock=On).
<Begasus> k, let's refres repository dependency info's
<OscarL> in my case, the problem was not with shift but with option key.
<OscarL> I first tried removing every single setting I could find related to input, only re-creating the keymap file worked for me.
<Begasus> did the trick :D
<nephele> OscarL: huh. Maybe this is a regression?
<nephele> phschafft: you'd better. Sugar is bad for you!
<Begasus> plenty for me then :P
<nephele> Anarchos: genio and paladin have different goals. Neither is better than the other, it depends on your use-case
<nephele> Paladin is a project overview basically, you can see your project and interact with it. Text editing is done with a dedicated text editor for example, so Paladin dispatches jobs to other applications in the context of the project
<OscarL> re: keyboard/keymap woes... dunno. but sure as hell it was annoying till I found how to solve it.
<nephele> Genio on the other hand tries to be fully integrated, that means much less third party support. But it tries to do everything you'd want on it's own
<nephele> OscarL: your hint is good. I will backup the old file, if this fixes it we have a culprit, and a bug report in waiting ;)
<phschafft> Begasus: see! what I said!
<Begasus> don't mind him phschafft, nephele can have a carrot instead :)
<phschafft> hm...
<phschafft> I guess so.
<nephele> reinstalling MacOS is a pain. I wonder if we can do better, have a little rescue env in the efi loader or something
<nephele> Begasus: yes, i will provide filled shoes this november ;)
<nephele> so i should get some carrots
<Begasus> should please phschafft's donkey also :)
<Begasus> guess I could grab some for the dogs here too :D
<nephele> just too bad i can't get any good bags of pepernootjies here... There is like 200g but really small ones and costs almost 1€
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<nephele> and they are sold out way before sinterklaas
<Begasus> bummer
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<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus f1799e4 - kquickimageeditor, bump version add KF6 package (#11052)
<Begasus> there, one less to keep building here :)
<nephele> Begasus: should visit BE or NL and import some
<nephele> also import some vla
<Begasus> need the KF6 version for neochat
* nephele wonders if vla can be frozen for storage
<Begasus> didn't you get some when you were in Brussels at FOSSDEM? ;)
<Begasus> vlaai can :)
<nephele> hmm, maybe some. dunno. but not enough for this november
<Begasus> heh
<nephele> yeah but i don't mean vlaai ;)
<Begasus> got that :)
<nephele> :D
<nephele> maybe i can visit limburg :P
<Begasus> NL or BE ? ;)
<Begasus> ps "L"imburg! :P
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<OscarL> BeOS' KDL (while running on VBox), eats almost nothing of my CPUs... Haiku's sents all cores to 100%.
<Begasus> hope he brings some carrots for the dogs ...
<Begasus> at least they are used OscarL :P
<OscarL> :-/
<Begasus> aside here with qemu I haven't launched the VM's on Windows for a while
<OscarL> Haiku's KDL does that 100% CPU usage on my netbooks too.
<OscarL> that "pause" instruction ain't doing much for me :-(
<Begasus> don't KDL?
<phschafft> nephele: everyone likes a good carrot. so it's good to have them around.
<phschafft> similar for apples.
<phschafft> also both don't go bad too easily. so normally that's not a problem as well.
<Begasus> morning cookie to go with fresh coffee isn't bad either :D
<Begasus> cookie dipping in coffee ... hmmm
<phschafft> then the cookie goes all high on the caffeine.
<Begasus> doesn't last long :D
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<Begasus> with all RC's I already got 10 recipes for neochat alone :)
<Begasus[m]> history lag in neochat ...
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<nephele> Begasus: NL or BE? does it matter? :D
<nephele> i suppose both are neat
<Begasus> not to me :)
<Begasus> k, nothing in my system seems to use php7
<nephele> anyone ported the new calligra?
<Begasus> not yet
<Begasus> 4.0.1
<Begasus> just released and already has a bugfix release :)
<nephele> ugh, the released calligra version seems to have some bug with the sidebar, takes up 2/3 of my screen and cant make it smaller
<Begasus> get a bigger screen? ;)
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<nephele> How is that going to help? :(
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<nephele> I already have a full-hd display. There is no reason the sidebar should take up that much space
<Anarchos> KERN: publish device: node 0xd4e68ac0, path sensor/acpi_accel/0, module drivers/sensor/acpi_accel/device_v1
<Anarchos> tree /dev/sensor/ ==> /dev/sensor/ ──> acpi_accel ──> 0
<Anarchos> nice :)
<nephele> Begasus: I've seen some huge 4k OLED 240hz monitors though
<nephele> might be the "next" thing for my desktop
<nephele> xD
<nephele> Oled TVs are interesting, except they are usually "smart tv" and then i don't want anything to do with em anymore
<Begasus> had this monstor of a monitor years ago, was a blast resolution on it then with BeOS(MaxEdition) :)
<Begasus> biab ... doggies :)
<nephele> ugh, mail forwards html emails by copying the html into the message body without marking it as html
<nephele> gotta say, for "email in 2024" it's starting to show more and more problems
* phschafft wonders if one could define 'huge monitor' by 'you can\'t lift it on your own' in a way that is a more stable definition even with years passing...
<nephele> phschafft: I've yet to encounter such monitors
<nephele> most work safety thingies say 20kg is the limit of stuff you *should* lift on your own
<nephele> Or maybe you mean just from the sheer width? :)
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<phschafft> nephele: I think 20kg is the legal limit or something. some places also implement 15kg. my flatmate's university does so. just to be on the safe side.
<phschafft> nephele: but yes, I mean back in the tube days there was no problem to get something > 20kg.
<phschafft> and the monitors my flatmate works with are also > 20kg, even without case.
<Anarchos> phschafft i remember a big SUN 24 or 30" monitor, weighing 32k
<phschafft> :)
<nephele> I remember carrying a crt monitor onto my bed with pc and everything, so i could play video games in bed xD
<Anarchos> nephele lol
<Anarchos> nephele i am sad to have throw away my 8088 with monochrome green display
<phschafft> I got some baluns for VGA so I can patch a video signal thru to my bed rack on the old flat.
<phschafft> and given I also had DIN to RJ-45 for other reaons I also could patch thru my keyboard.
<Anarchos> phschafft my best keyboard is a mini DIn one and i can't plug it anymore
<Anarchos> (on with the purple round connector)
<nephele> Anarchos: i have some pc with TRS-DOS on it
<nephele> also one that originally ran ibm pc-dos
* Anarchos is idle: gone eating
<nephele> but i don't have a floppy for that :(
<nephele> and IBM support doesn't know what a floppy is
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<phschafft> Anarchos: mine is also PS/2 with a mini DIN. but DIN->Mini DIN is something one generally has around.
<Anarchos> phschafft my computers only have usb connectors for keyboards now
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<dovsienko> Anarchos: at one point around early 2000s PS/2 -> USB keyboard adapters were common
<phschafft> and they were good. the current adapters you get look the same as the old ones but they don't generally work.
<phschafft> for some reasons.
<dovsienko> apparently, they still exist, $5 for a pair (keyboard and mouse)
<phschafft> and they fail in strange ways for me. like some keys don't work but others do.
<dovsienko> cheap imitators
<phschafft> they were always that cheap.
<phschafft> and I mean there were only a few differnet chips around. not sure why they just don't keep using them...
<phschafft> to me the mode they fail feels like someone needed to put more resources in to make it fail than to make it work.
<dovsienko> a common reason is that one manufacturer makes something that works good and someone else knocks off a "compatible upgrade" that is $0.01 cheaper, so greedy OEMs switch to that
<dovsienko> this process has been in place since times as old as archaeological evidence goes
<phschafft> yes, but in this case I don't think is what happened.
<dovsienko> pots, jewellery, bricks, knifes and swords, etc. basically anything that needs honest application of the technology available at the time
<phschafft> dovsienko: you know why coins have no smooth edges? ;)
<dovsienko> to make grinding off more difficult
* phschafft nods.
<dovsienko> or evident, to that end
<Begasus> PulkoMandy still a lot left without version string for openssl3 :/ https://bpa.st/HZ2MG
<Begasus> well, some local ones in there not in the depot yet, but still :)
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<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-2/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/739e3ee840b4...838fee9234db
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 838fee9 - cargo_c, bump version (openssl3 issue) (#11051)
<Begasus> crossing fingers on that one, build went ok on both arch's here
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<Begasus> rav1e still good, no mention for openssl3 in the package
<Begasus> nephele: set(REQUIRED_KF6_VERSION "6.0.0") (for calligra 4.0.1) :)
<Begasus> bah: WebEngineWidgets strike that, nogo
<nephele> Begasus: hmm?
<nephele> I'm confused what you are trying to tell me :)
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<Begasus> that calliagro 4.0.1 can't be build
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<nephele> Because of qtwebengine?
<nephele> can't we remove that dep? what do they need it for?
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<Begasus> nephele, right qtwebengine required, (disabled it, so far no errors on it ...) atm :)
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<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes pushed 1 commit to master [+2/-2/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/838fee9234db...dff60f3b4d9d
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes dff60f3 - qt6_quick3dphysics: bump version
<Begasus> this is a first I guess, cargo-c finished on 32bit buildmaster while it's still building on 64bit :)
<Begasus> seen it locally also
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<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes pushed 1 commit to master [+2/-2/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/dff60f3b4d9d...4b80a2a5e8c8
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes 4b80a2a - qt6_speech: bump version
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-1/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/4b80a2a5e8c8...9aae155301b5
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes 9aae155 - qt6_location: bump version
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-1/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/9aae155301b5...f50a8fba4511
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes f50a8fb - qt6_webview: bump version
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/f50a8fba4511...7b15a68ced33
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes 7b15a68 - tg_owt: bump for rebuild
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/7b15a68ced33...6a5d881335c4
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes 6a5d881 - qcoro_qt6: bump for rebuild
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<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes 79ec6e4 - qt_creator: bump for rebuild
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<misterhsp[m]> .
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<HaikuUser3> hi
<erysdren> hi haikuuser3
<erysdren> how's it going?
<HaikuUser3> its good
<HaikuUser3> U?
<erysdren> good! how are you enjoying Haiku?
<HaikuUser3> it works well
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<zard> You can change your nickname with "/nick newname"
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<janking> hello
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<zard> Hello janking :-)
<janking> hello zard
<BrunoSpr> hello
<Begasus> 'lo :)
<Begasus> nephele: https://0x0.st/XwpB.png :)
<janking> ?
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<nephele> Begasus: nice
<janking> my nick dont working
<nephele> what's not working? you changed it fine
<janking> ok
<janking> janking ok
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<janking> hello
<erysdren> hi
<phschafft> :)
<nosycat> o/
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<JulesEnriquez[m]> Talking with someone planning on making an incompatible fork of Haiku x86, targeting hardware as old as a 486 with 32 MB of RAM.
<JulesEnriquez[m]> Aside from disabling the packaging system, what else could they do?
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<PulkoMandy> If we knew, we would have done it already
<PulkoMandy> There is no magic "use 10% of the minimum memory you currently need" configuration switch
<PulkoMandy> Compile, test, profile, investigate, repeat until it works
<JulesEnriquez[m]> Right yeah, was just asking if there are any other immediate ways to lower a build's memory usage.
<JulesEnriquez[m]> Can only really think of disabling package management when building.
<zard> It's an interesting challenge for sure. BeOS did it somehow, so we should be able to too...
<zard> But it would likely be a lot of work
* zard wonders how a memory profile of Haiku would look
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<x512[m]> Jules Enriquez: Disable ICU.
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<phschafft> compile with -Os ;)
<PulkoMandy> Probably disable app_server double buffering and do like beos, draw directly to the screen buffer (more flickering, less memory use)
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<PulkoMandy> Remove freetype and harfbuzz and use simpler code to draw fonts without antialiasing, maybe
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<janking> ?????
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<zard> Wondering about what we're talking about, or something else?
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<janking> hi
<nosycat> Welcome back!
<phschafft> :)
<janking> thanks
<janking> not here slipping soon
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<phschafft> I mean a big question would also if it could do something useful.
<phschafft> as in you will likely be unable to run a lot of software. and the programs that can run may be unable to work e.g. with big documents.
<janking> back
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<BrunoSpr> hey all, is it possible to download the newest bootx64.efi with pkgman? If so, how?
<B2IA> (BrunoSpr) Cannot find it on BeShare as well?!
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<BrunoSpr> Thanks!
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<Begasus> closing down here
<Begasus> cu peeps!
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<hsp> Is there any way to import bookmarks into WebPositive? e.g. html from Firefox or othe
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 4 commits to master [hrev58069] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=0caf23319cb4+%5E8cb8c3d75679
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 088b72e77c4e - arm64: Clear low bits in the VA when querying.
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 32c542bdf3ea - arm64: Adding tracing points to VM subsystem
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 4e4d316738df - arm64: Reserve ASID 0 for the kernel.
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 0caf23319cb4 - arm64: Use DEVICE_GRE memory when mapping MTR_WC.
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [hrev58070] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=3dc487fe1ce4+%5E0caf23319cb4
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 3dc487fe1ce4 - kernel/fs: Ignore FD in fd_and_path_to_dir_vnode if an absolute path was specified.
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<janking> back to back
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<Anarchos> i am back
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [hrev58071] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=d4d360a0d76e+%5E3dc487fe1ce4
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] d4d360a0d76e - ACPI: Reword the new comment in AcpiOsMapMemory for clarity's sake.
* Anarchos just the day i am making progress on my acpi driver :)
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<janking> themes i like to do
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 5 commits to master [hrev58072] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=8e33a0dacf7e+%5Ed4d360a0d76e
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] e5f569eedddb - packagefs: Don't bother with depots for most of the object caches.
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] d6dd251e6c22 - packagefs: Remove some last remnants of V1 support.
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 3e6902c3f465 - SinglyLinkedList: Rename Size to Count.
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] df44e515de8c - SinglyLinkedList: The sole Iterator is really ConstIterator.
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 8e33a0dacf7e - packagefs: Use SinglyLinkedList for PackageNodeAttribute.
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<janking> h
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<jmairboeck> Anarchos: I saw in the log that you had problems with Latex yesterday. Did I break something with my texlive_core refactoring?
<Anarchos> no idea but still texmf.cnf not found
<Anarchos> but not sure if am totally up to date
<jmairboeck> that should be part of the main texlive package IIRC. Maybe try reinstalling that.
<jmairboeck> but it could also be a problem that it is still the 2023 version, because 2024 failed to build when I updated it, at least on x86_64. Maybe we should retry building it ...
<jmairboeck> I was wrong, ultimately it is supposed to use the texmf.cnf from texlive_core
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<jmairboeck> it is copied from /system/data/texmf-dist/web2c/ to .../data/texlive/texmf-dist/web2c in the texlive recipe: https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/blob/79ec6e414406a828ade35f8a466553c731a864aa/app-text/texlive/texlive-2024.recipe#L262
<jmairboeck> so there should actually be 2 similar copies of that file
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<janking> Haiku is the best os around.
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<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/79ec6e414406...2b50ad3f17b4
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes 2b50ad3 - Telegram: bump for rebuild
<janking> good
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<janking> good night to all :)
<erysdren> night!
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<jhj> Hrm. Emacs is broken? :(
<waddlesplash> what happens?
<waddlesplash> maybe it just needs a rebuild
<augiedoggie> loads fine for me on x86_64 nightly
<jhj> ah nevermind
<jhj> It needs an explicit -nw to work when I ssh'd in
<jhj> I guess it was trying to display on the machine upstairs
<erysdren> hmm, i'm not too familiar about haiku's networking capabilities, since it's meant to be a personal-use OS and not a server OS
<erysdren> i didn't know you could ssh into a haiku machine, but i guess i don't know why you wouldn't be able to
<erysdren> seems like an important thing to have
<erysdren> the reason i bring this up is because i was thinking about porting some server-ish software for an obscure protocol to Haiku, but i was discouraged because it seemed like wasted effort for an OS not meant to "host" things
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 2 commits to master [hrev58073] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=f060b7ece83b+%5E8e33a0dacf7e
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] e3f2b2d79031 - packagefs: Print the hash table size in the StringPool overhead.
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] f060b7ece83b - packagefs: Use [] instead of [1] in StringData definition.
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