<OscarL>
updated beta5 not being compatible with buildmaster is... :-/
<OscarL>
Hello Begasus[m] :-)
<Begasus[m]>
yeah, talking about breakage
<OscarL>
sucks that the update process is manual, but that kinda the worst scenario.
<OscarL>
and Tracker on nighlies scared me away back to beta5, so... I guess I'll just try to be patient :-D
<Begasus[m]>
let's check last commit on fastfetch
<Begasus[m]>
still good
<OscarL>
(Started to rain a bit... after 10 days of temps in >= 30, <= 42 celcius range. I might finally be able to get some sleep tonight)
<Begasus[m]>
don't get a cold now :)
<OscarL>
a cold beer would be nice :-P
<Begasus[m]>
only got zero beer here :P
<Begasus[m]>
coffee good also?
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<OscarL>
save the coffee for when I need to type while wearing gloves in winter :-)
<Begasus[m]>
always some ready here :)
<OscarL>
I need to try to get back at numpy/scipy. Won't be today, though (already too sleeppy).
<Begasus[m]>
numpy is still a pain in the rear when checking some things with pip install
<Begasus[m]>
looks like you can't get the right version on any there :P
<OscarL>
yeah, trying to find versions that work with everything is basically unsolvable.
<Begasus[m]>
isn't there a "safe" one?
<OscarL>
(without upstream providing wheels on their own)
<OscarL>
problem is not that much on numpy's side, but on different projects expecting conflicting versions.
<OscarL>
that can happen with any python package really, not only numpy.
<OscarL>
it's basically a non-issue if you use "virtual-envs" to work on Python stuff, but the way we use it, for syste-wide packages...
<Begasus[m]>
can't we add version strings to the recipe names? like boost etc, and add a conflict?
<OscarL>
it is prone to fall in that "dependency hell".
<OscarL>
we might... but do you remember how difficult has been to even build ONE version of numpy/scipy/etc?
<Begasus[m]>
yeah ;)
<OscarL>
not really looking forward to multiply that by X :-D
<Begasus[m]>
maybe not that hard once a fairly recent one is on par for building?
<OscarL>
anyway... updating numpy to 2.x shouldn't be too hard (IIRC). Still need to see what surprise scipy will show me.
<Begasus[m]>
+
<Begasus[m]>
1
<Begasus[m]>
stupid numlock
<OscarL>
everytime I stop looking at scipy it gets a new version too, so... adding to the fact I tend to forget some details if I leave it for too long... feels like those movies where you re-start the same day again and again :-D
<Begasus[m]>
lol
<Begasus[m]>
being in the kde rooms I see the progress on qt also, I'm on par (so far) with current release, and yesterday saw that 6.9.0 is on it's way :)
<OscarL>
you make good progress on that front! well done :-)
<Begasus[m]>
only thing stopping me to push 6.8.2 is the build failure on haikuplugins
<OscarL>
let's see... on "scipy/download" I have: 1.6.3, 1.11.3, and 1.14.0.
<OscarL>
pypi.org shows current version is: 1.15.1 :-/
<Begasus[m]>
just saw it on repology :)
<OscarL>
from 2025-01-10. wanna bet it gets a new release as soon as I download that one? :-D
<Begasus[m]>
lol
<Begasus[m]>
reminds me one time with texstudio :P
<OscarL>
almost 60 MB tarball... damn. 1.6.3 was just shy of 18 MB.
<Begasus[m]>
1.12MiB for fastfetch :)
* OscarL
keeps forgetting to add "--autostash" to "git puma" (alias to "git pull upstream master")
<OscarL>
should just update the alias at this point :-D
<augiedoggie>
you can set it in your global git config
<Begasus[m]>
gmp (pull upstream/push origin) :)
<OscarL>
augiedoggie: indeed.
<OscarL>
just updated it as: git config --global alias.puma "pull upstream master --autostash"
<augiedoggie>
well, i mean that's an option you can turn on permanently too
<OscarL>
light rain turned to full blown storm :-/ (doubt power will remain up much longer, lol)
<OscarL>
managed to package pythran at least (one of the deps for scipy)
<Begasus[m]>
+1 progress :)
<OscarL>
think I'm still missing one more.
<OscarL>
make that two: "gast" and "beniget".
<Begasus[m]>
I thought you were "cleaning" up? :P
<OscarL>
I try :-(
<OscarL>
but these darn python packages LOVE to add dependencies.
<Begasus[m]>
heh
<OscarL>
(storm got too loud on my tin-roof. Can't even hear my inner voice :-D)
<Begasus[m]>
well, no distraction then :P
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<Begasus[m]>
x512 fixCMake works :)
<Begasus[m]>
captain still plenty to do on the SDL3 recipe :)
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<Begasus[m]>
hmm ... sdl3_image doesn't find SDL3 headers with the move ...
<OscarL>
darn summer storms. got water inside the house from every place possible, apparently :-/
<Begasus[m]>
jikes!
<Begasus[m]>
hope it's not too bad
<OscarL>
good thing I was awake at least, to minimize the damage.
<Begasus[m]>
but a pain still
<OscarL>
not too bad, but pretty annoying.
<Begasus[m]>
can imagine
<OscarL>
house being poorly built doesn't helps :-D
<Begasus[m]>
OK, this fixCMake moves the files to $developLibDir, that's good, but then sdl3_image doesn't seem to pick them up ?
<OscarL>
(but hey... didn't lose power for once. (even if the AC unit looked like a waterfall :-D)
<Begasus[m]>
👍
<OscarL>
seems we already had "gast", that explains some weird HP messages I was getting :-D. got beniget too.
<Begasus[m]>
all bad things lead to a good one? ;)
<Begasus[m]>
biab (doggies)
<OscarL>
I think I should see if I can use the .whl files as SOURCE_URI_XX for scipy/pythran/whatever, instead of leaving those packages on the repos, when nothing else seems to requiere them.
<OscarL>
some of these .whl files are compatible with any Python version even. So packaging them for a specific Python version seems a bit silly.
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<OscarL>
mmm, next version of scipy (1.16.x) will require Python >= 3.11 already.
<OscarL>
VMWare addons deskbar replicant keeps crashing Deskbar from time to time.
<Begasus[m]>
re
<OscarL>
(at least the VMware addons are small and fairly easy to re-build if needed, unlike the incredible mess of VBox's Guest Additions)
<OscarL>
Begasus[m]: sadly I can't make VBox networking work with my cellphone's USB-tethering, so I'm stuck with VMware... and not really plesant to use it without clipboard integration with the host.
<OscarL>
Thanksfully, the Deskbar crashes are not *that* frequent.
<OscarL>
I'm more annoyed when VMware Player 16 mouse integration stops working for some reason :-D
<Begasus[m]>
I found it annoying to use (mostly with using the external HDMI monitor)
<Begasus[m]>
always lost where my mouse went :P
<Begasus[m]>
OK, leaving fixCMake for now
<OscarL>
I see. Only one monitor here for the Desktop PC, so that's not much of an issue.
<Begasus[m]>
now on bare metal I can't use the external one, so one monitor (laptop) also :)
<OscarL>
anyway... think I got all the tarballs I need to attept building scipy. Now I only need to gather the will to do it :-D
<Begasus[m]>
on with it!! commit count is lacking :P
<OscarL>
Begasus[m]: re: external monitor... yeah, that's one of the few negatives of running bare-metal.
<Begasus[m]>
there's Workspaces for that :)
<Begasus[m]>
but yeah, could be handy in some cases
<Begasus[m]>
atm "only" 10 workspaces :D
<OscarL>
lol
<Begasus[m]>
6 to 7 of them mostly occupied though
<OscarL>
(I setted on using only 3 in one row)
<OscarL>
*settled
<Begasus[m]>
IceWeasel too crashy on github, WebPositive is beter there, but thread usage is still an issue (need to close and open again after some time)
<Begasus[m]>
Falkon was good up to beta5, now thread issue also (same with Akregator)
<OscarL>
(those 100% CPU usage issues are indeed a bummer)
<Begasus[m]>
haven't checked if it's still an issue on nightlies?
<OscarL>
not sure. I barely use web browsers on Haiku, other that for local html files.
<Begasus[m]>
can't go without here
<Begasus[m]>
and "NOT" for YT :P
<Begasus[m]>
mentioned that a few times at FOSDEM also, screaming for 25years to have Firefox, why? to watch YouTube :P
<Begasus[m]>
but granted, having it and using it's extensions is nice :D
<OscarL>
darn ISP data meter has't updated my usage for hours :-/. Anyway... I'd probably should go to bed now, and try to do someting about scipy when I wake up :-)
<OscarL>
Always nice chatting with you Begasus[m]. Have an excellent day.
<OscarL>
See you around!
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<Begasus[m]>
bugger ... tl
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<nekobot>
• Begasus (a3040627): kmime, bump KF6 version (#11766)
<andreaallegri>
is there a ita channels of haiku in irc ?
<Begasus[m]>
#haiku-it ?
<andreaallegri>
yes .. but isn't there ...
<Begasus[m]>
I don't know, :)
<andreaallegri>
xD
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<nephele>
OscarL: Did you install the vmware guest additions?
<nephele>
if VmWare doesn't work i would recomend using qemu instead, and staying far away from virtualbox...
<Begasus[m]>
nephele he did
<nephele>
on a completely unrelated note, anyone know of a database of monitor models or something we can use to blacklist LCD SubPixel antialiasing if it doesn't make sense to use?
<nekobot>
• Begasus (5bafb98d): hwdata, new recipe (#11780)