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<Skipp_OSX> I know that but we try to mount it anyway?
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<nekobot> • waddlesplash (b1e636b0): icu: CFLAGS/CXXFLAGS override -O, so specify one.
<nekobot> [haikuports] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to branch master: https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/78598322d5d7...b1e636b0ad96
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<nekobot> [haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to branch master: https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/b1e636b0ad96...f848e3ed0c14
<nekobot> • OscarL (f848e3ed): sigil: move to Python 3.10. (#11709)
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 3 commits to master [hrev58597] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=a1448cbdcd6a+%5Eaedcf2476d41
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 62f8ef3a7fc5 - BuildSetup: Clean up HOST_KERNEL and linking rules.
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 97d45387dfdf - headers/find_directory_private: Don't rely on <sys/cdefs.h>.
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] a1448cbdcd6a - unzip: Drop unneeded files and Jam rules.
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 1283ca4cf403 - unzip: Restore crypt.h.
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [hrev58598] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=1283ca4cf403+%5Ea1448cbdcd6a
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<x512[m]> Skipp_OSX: nephele_xmpp What is the point of control color changes? Isn't it already working fine?
<Skipp_OSX> that's the point, no it's not
<x512[m]> "Do not fix what is not broken", no?
<x512[m]> What is the problem? Dark themes?
<Skipp_OSX> first of all I don't believe in that maxim, secondly, it is broken. We're using B_CONTROL_BACKGROUND_COLOR in precisely one place right now, BButton, that's it.
<x512[m]> Visually it looks perfectly fine...
<Skipp_OSX> correct
<Skipp_OSX> well, not entirely correct, the shine is too bright in dark mode
<Skipp_OSX> but, more to the point you can't change the control background and text colors independently
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<OscarL> that "DOS" naming for FAT partitions feels like a relic (and wrong), same as calling MBR partition tables "Intel".
* OscarL just got to that part of yesterday's irc log.
<OscarL> Kinda like we're now "stuck" with "Disks" on Desktop, instead of it being called "Volumes".
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<OscarL> can't get VBox networking to work with this USB tethering network :-/ (syslog shows DAEMON DHCP timeing out like crazy)
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<OscarL> Works right away on VMware... but that causes my cellphone to auto-reboot after a while :-(
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<Begasus[m]> morning peeps
<Begasus[m]> finaly a bit of time :)
<Begasus[m]> Hi OscarL
<OscarL> Good morning Begasus[m] :-)
<OscarL> (here for a bit less than an hour myself)
<Begasus[m]> same here, doc appointment at 10AM
* OscarL tries to avoid installing cmd:gdb to test distcc
<Begasus[m]> yeah! wouldn't do your trafic any good :(
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<OscarL> Begasus[m]: hope the visit to the doctor is only for a regular check up. Best of luck in any case!
<Begasus[m]> we'll have to see, looks like my sugar level is way too high, so let's not panic yet :)
<OscarL> there's always something, isn't it? Darn doctors always finding wrong things with me!!! /me yells at clouds
<Begasus[m]> both PR's ready to go?
<OscarL> yup.
<Begasus[m]> yeah )
<OscarL> distcc next up.
<nekobot> [haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to branch master: https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/f848e3ed0c14...19e9b85961c7
<nekobot> • OscarL (19e9b859): ranger: move to Python 3.10. (#11713)…
<nekobot> [haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to branch master: https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/19e9b85961c7...83fb1ce4845c
<nekobot> • OscarL (83fb1ce4): cram: move to Python 3.10. (#11714)…
<Begasus[m]> that's done :)
<OscarL> thanks
<OscarL> ran --test with cmd:gdb commented out on TEST_REQUIRES.
<Begasus[m]> np
<Begasus[m]> for which one was that?
<OscarL> seems to run mostly fine... till the end when it seems to leave some lingering rubbish behind, and you're forced to unmount.
<OscarL> "distcc"
<Skipp_OSX> ld: unknown options: --no-as-needed
<OscarL> will open the PR with cmd:gdb enabled, in any case.
<Begasus[m]> will try to see if I can run it here, already got gdb installed
<OscarL> Begasus[m]: "Unable to unmount /RAMDRIVE/sys-devel/distcc/work-3.3.5/dev." "FDs in use by applications:" is what I get.
<OscarL> Begasus[m]: great, thank you. At least tests without gdb run fast enough.
<Begasus[m]> ah, it's not in a PR yet?
<OscarL> will send it right now.
<Begasus[m]> +1
<Begasus[m]> or just push it to the branch
<Begasus[m]> can track it down :)
<Begasus[m]> git checkout --track oscarl/distcc-py3.10 :)
<Begasus[m]> I like to keep my working repo clean from external branches/changes :)
<Begasus[m]> gdb is still enabled in this?
<OscarL> for TEST(), yes.
<Begasus[m]> https://bpa.st/ZRJQ
<Begasus[m]> seems to keep some process in use when finishing up
<OscarL> yeah, was getting something like that, but with lot more fds in use.
<OscarL> (or more processes holding those 0/1/2 fds)
<Begasus[m]> yeah, still shown in PC
<OscarL> ouch, yeah.
<Begasus[m]> unmount: unmounting failed: Device/File/Resource busy
<OscarL> time to use my killall
<Begasus[m]> nasty one
<OscarL> Begasus[m]: https://bpa.st/4MLQ <<< that's why I wrote "pidof" originally :-D
<Begasus[m]> +1
<Begasus[m]> adding :)
<OscarL> was getting similar situation when running Python's test suites.
<OscarL> and killing each one was a PITA,
<nekobot> [haikuporter] jmairboeck pushed 1 commit to branch master: https://github.com/haikuports/haikuporter/compare/aa5e2fd28ae5...a15e82edd953
<nekobot> • jmairboeck (a15e82ed): Add support for pre-uninstall scripts (#309)…
<Begasus[m]> nice one OscarL !
<Begasus[m]> works great :D
<Begasus[m]> already just installed haikuutils just in case
<Begasus[m]> Maybe add a comment about this in the PR?
<OscarL> see, /bin/pidof not entirely useless in the end! :-P
<OscarL> right.
<Begasus[m]> indeed
<Begasus[m]> mmu_man: got fastfetch build and running ... me pokes mmu_man for a PR :)
<OscarL> might just add it as a comment to "TEST()" too.
<Begasus[m]> +1
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<OscarL> done.
<OscarL> Begasus[m]: he just (re)joined, so you might want to poke him again :-P
<Begasus[m]> already poked mmu_man at fediverse also :)
<nephele_xmpp> hi there
<Begasus[m]> hi nephele_xmpp
<Begasus[m]> time to pack up my gear
<Begasus[m]> OscarL: if you're not around later, read you next :)
<Begasus[m]> bbl
<OscarL> be well!
<OscarL> (about to log off in a bit too)
<Begasus[m]> thanks!
* OscarL waves at nephele_xmpp
<nephele_xmpp> Hi there you two :)
<nephele_xmpp> I got a new SSD for Haiku yesterday, and soon I will install it :3
<OscarL> nice!
<nekobot> • pulkomandy (8eb6058f): Some reformatting and typo fixes
<nekobot> [website] pulkomandy pushed 1 commit to branch master: https://github.com/haiku/website/compare/85459c32f7f9...8eb6058f484e
<OscarL> need to open a ticket about mailing list tab on main Haiku website not updating.
<OscarL> hasn't worked in many months, and I always forget to open such ticket :-D
<OscarL> will try to do so tonight. For now... Adieu mes amis.
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<nephele_xmpp> I'm still on linux because of these files, and darn, Gnome Webs UI is darn frustrating
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<Anarchos> hello
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<Begasus[m]> still alive :)
<nekobot> [haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to branch master: https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/83fb1ce4845c...4818a3419751
<nekobot> • OscarL (4818a341): distcc: use Python 3.10. (#11715)
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<nephele_xmpp> DE: Application kit. Funky :)
<nephele_xmpp> I guess it's not that optimized to Haiku
<Krutarthpatel[m]> hello, I am getting this error when running haiku on VM:
<Krutarthpatel[m]> Launching x-vnd.haiku-firstbootprompt failed: Application could not be found
<Krutarthpatel[m]> it seems almost nothing is copied into the image. Do I need to rebuild from scratch?
<Krutarthpatel[m]> I have successfully run haiku before so I am not sure why I am getting this error all of a sudden.
<nephele_xmpp> don't delete the generated/attributes folder
<Krutarthpatel[m]> oops...
<Krutarthpatel[m]> now what?
<Begasus[m]> nice mmu_man !
<nephele_xmpp> Rebuild the image, iirc. the attributes folder is the "compat layer" for building on OS which do not have support for Haiku style attributes. These are used for a lot of things in haiku
<nephele_xmpp> for example: to find the mime signature of an application, and launch it
<nephele_xmpp> that is, delete the generated folder completely (or so that only the buildtools are left) and then rebuild everything
<Krutarthpatel[m]> but, its size increases to 7.8 GB after multiple rebuilds. Is that normal?
<Krutarthpatel[m]> I am constrained on space
<nephele_xmpp> deleting the attributes folder is the equivalent of deleting severall lines from every file in the build, and since this is a compat layer the build can't figure out what files you modified
<nephele_xmpp> my haiku folder (the tree+generated) is only about 2.5GiB, but that is on Haiku :g
<nephele_xmpp> not sure what you are building on?
<Krutarthpatel[m]> linux
<nephele_xmpp> (though this is viewed from linux, no clue if it counts attributes properly)
<Krutarthpatel[m]> I noticed it increases in size each build
<nephele_xmpp> Anyhow, not sure. Perhaps the space could be less. Maybe open a ticket about this, I am not sure how this works exactly
<Krutarthpatel[m]> alright....If i run into this issue again will do that
<Krutarthpatel[m]> Thanks!
<nephele_xmpp> maybe the build (compat layer) fails to clean up some files during stages in the build, but I am just guessing. :)
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<Begasus[m]> mmu_man: https://bpa.st/GX3Q getting a werror on pipe2 for fastfetch
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<Begasus[m]> also in the patch "src/detection/os/os_uname.c" I think this should be "src/detection/os/os_haiku.c" ?
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<andreasdr[m]> Hi there.
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<nekobot> [haikuports] mmuman pushed 3 commits to branch master: https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/4818a3419751...36e997e982fe
<nekobot> • mmuman (a8d9dd5e): ConfClerk: Fix Copyright years
<nekobot> • mmuman (489a0341): Add (disabled) recipe for FastFetch…
<nekobot> • mmuman (36e997e9): Ancestris: bump version…
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<mmu_man> Do we have a way to integrate with the GH CI? https://github.com/fastfetch-cli/fastfetch/pull/1538
<nekobot> [haikuports] pulkomandy pushed 1 commit to branch master: https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/36e997e982fe...3408c53a62c3
<nekobot> • pulkomandy (3408c53a): gcc: enable libasan and libubsan…
<Begasus[m]> nice, think I've hit libubsan already a few times in the past :)
<PulkoMandy> mmu_man: https://github.com/korli/haiku-builder is used by various haikuarchives projects
<Begasus[m]> mmu_man: I think korli did something in regards of this?
<Begasus[m]> that :)
<augiedoggie> there is also a docker image that some projects like genio use
<Begasus[m]> mmu_man: ancestris build failed on buildmaster (checksum), maybe switch to openjdk17 also? https://build.haiku-os.org/buildmaster/master/x86_64/logviewer.html?buildruns/11919/builds/84145.log
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<Begasus[m]> behaviour is the same for openjdk11_jre vs openjdk17_jre (got some crashes when navigating in one of the example trees) :)
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<mmu_man> PulkoMandy: ah cool
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<mmu_man> Begasus[m]: odd
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<Anarchos> hello
<janking> hello
<nekobot> • pulkomandy (996517d5): Development FAQ: add links to ways to use Haiku in continuous integration systems…
<nekobot> [website] pulkomandy pushed 1 commit to branch master: https://github.com/haiku/website/compare/8eb6058f484e...996517d5b9e0
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<Begasus[m]> Hi Anarchos janking
<janking> :)
<Begasus[m]> stupig bugger, Iceweasel crashes on github, WebPositive/Falkon/Konqueror won't co-operate when trying to comment :/
<Anarchos> Begasus[m] i don't have troubles using Falkon on github.
<Begasus[m]> also with github?
<Begasus[m]> seems lately it's buggy all over
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<BrunoSpr> hello all, Begasus[m], ScummVM should start correct now! Did you adyust the save/settings file accordingly?
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<Begasus[m]> BrunoSpr: if you read the issue you created you will see that Korli fixed it :)
<Begasus[m]> thanks for the update!
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<BrunoSpr> Begasus[m]... thank you and thank you Korli
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<nephele> Where are the build-in "Welcome" pages webpositive has in it's config stored in git?
<nephele> I mean ~/config/settings/WebPositive/LoaderPages/Welcome
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] af5f2563385f - InterfaceDefs: complete ASCII control char definitions
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [hrev58599] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=af5f2563385f+%5E1283ca4cf403
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 2 commits to master [hrev58600] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=d59339ff6cc8+%5Eaf5f2563385f
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 6c380f3c8e08 - kernel/x86: add definitions for cpuid leaves
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] d59339ff6cc8 - x86_cstates: disable C5 and C6 states on Skylake
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [hrev58601] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=def8a585faa1+%5Ed59339ff6cc8
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] def8a585faa1 - BuildSetup: ld on darwin does not support --no-as-needed
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<mmu_man> mmm protobuf_x86_devel misses the cmake files
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<mmu_man> Anyone understands protobuf's versionning?
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<Begasus[m]> autotools package mmu_man
<Begasus[m]> protobuf-3.20.1 is the latest in the depot
<Begasus[m]> nice, pays off to read on the KDE forum sometimes :)
<mmu_man> there are recipes for protobuf28?
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<Begasus[m]> yes, pkgman search protobuf28 ? :)
<Begasus[m]> inrecipe protobuf28? :)
<Begasus[m]> Hi jmairboeck
<mmu_man> yeah but is it older or newer!?
<mmu_man> or is that the version of the protocol itself or something?
<Begasus[m]> protobuf28-3.17.2.recipe (so it's an older version)
<Begasus[m]> libVersion="28.0.2"
<Begasus[m]> it's using the SONAME version as suffix
<Begasus[m]> needed update on mlt for those HSL filters :)
<nekobot> [haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to branch master: https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/3408c53a62c3...344b91d6de13
<nekobot> • Begasus (344b91d6): mlt, bump version (#11719)
<mmu_man> As President I'd ban all these versionning nonsense
<mmu_man> so yeah after 3.20 they just ditched the 3 major, so v21
<mmu_man> Begasus[m]: nice!
<Begasus[m]> I should push the "wip" recipe for latest version so Olivier can have a go at it mmu_man :)
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<Begasus[m]> not sure how it ended up with that versioning mmu_man , it's different from boost versioning etc ...
<Begasus[m]> must have been someone requesting it I guess :)
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<Begasus[m]> ah right, upstream changed that too mmu_man (protobuf)
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<Skipp_OSX> I used your Desktop background color as a test of my white/black text on Desktop feature Beg, it's black.
<Begasus[m]> it's blue here :) (but it's an image, not a color in itself) :)
<Skipp_OSX> no no no, the text is black. What is Skipp talking about? here: https://review.haiku-os.org/c/haiku/+/8885/16/src/kits/tracker/DesktopPoseView.cpp#355
<Begasus[m]> well, background color can be seen in the workspaces
<Skipp_OSX> I see it at the top of the window, and the side and on the Post your Haiku screenshot! thread
<Begasus[m]> ah, well not sure it's related, but when I select an icon on the Desktop the background color turns black here too
<Begasus[m]> pretty annoying
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<Begasus[m]> eeps, gcc build failed for 32bit
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<Begasus[m]> /sources/gcc-13.3.0/libsanitizer/sanitizer_common/sanitizer_common.h:1095:14: error: 'operator new' takes type 'size_t' ('long unsigned int') as first parameter [-fpermissive]
<Begasus[m]> now if I could understand that ... :)
<phschafft> what do you pass?
<Skipp_OSX> The select box background is going to turn the same color as the text.
<Skipp_OSX> Now I did consider making the text color your background color, which would be that neon blue, but right now it's white on black.
<Begasus[m]> shouldn't that turn/keep the Desktop color?
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<Skipp_OSX> Well if your goal is to keep doing the same thing that we've been doing then no.
<waddlesplash> PulkoMandy: ^^ sanitizer build failure
<Skipp_OSX> It would/should turn the inverse of your background color, but we don't like that so it's either black or white.
<Begasus[m]> this is what it looks like currently
<Skipp_OSX> hmmm that's a bug then, we better submit my patch to fix it.
<Begasus[m]> but still on R1B5
<Skipp_OSX> well then adjust the background color until the text turns white
<Begasus[m]> that's possible too :)
<Begasus[m]> just wanted to match the bgcolor to the image color a bit :)
<Begasus[m]> better though
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<Skipp_OSX> It'll be fixed up soon
<Skipp_OSX> but prob not on R1B5
<Begasus[m]> I'll wait for R1B6 then :)
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<Begasus[m]> rebuild for kdenlive (with patch for icons)
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<nekobot> [haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to branch master: https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/344b91d6de13...4fd5ce2c402f
<nekobot> • Begasus (4fd5ce2c): kdenlive, add (disabled) KF6 version (#11720)
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<nekobot> [haikuports] pulkomandy pushed 1 commit to branch master: https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/4fd5ce2c402f...3507fb4e3d6e
<nekobot> • pulkomandy (3507fb4e): gcc: fix 32 bit build for sanitizers
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<Skipp_OSX> you'll have to post a new screenshot with your new Desktop color
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<Begasus[m]> ~> perlbrew version
<Begasus[m]> /boot/system/non-packaged/bin/perlbrew - App::perlbrew/1.01
<Begasus[m]> Ok, just had to get that out of my hair :P
<Begasus[m]> Skipp_OSX: me?
<nephele> waddlesplash: do you know if we have *any* support for efi runtime services yet?
<waddlesplash> we don't
<waddlesplash> but there isn't much use for them on x86 I think?
<Begasus[m]> well, time to close down here
<Begasus[m]> cu peeps!
<nephele> Two uses: 1) shutdown the system 2) control the bootloader to set BootNext so we can offer a "Reboot to <OS>" option
<nephele> and also simply showing or editing efivars and controlling the efi loader options in general
<Skipp_OSX> yeah bc you had to change your Desktop bg, but was a joke
<nephele> shutting down with efi is not strictly neccesary, but would be nice "just in case"
<waddlesplash> does x86 EFI even support that?
<waddlesplash> the spec may define it but there may not actually be support if all OSes already used ACPI anyway, so the BIOSes may not implement it
<nephele> Dunno. No way to tell without taking the plunge?
<nephele> anyhow, my main reason is wanting that Reboot to <OS> feature. I am tired of setting infront of my pc and pressing f9 at jus the right time, or having to install a graphical bootmenu to have to choose every time :)
<nephele> we also need this to properly install the efi loader
<nephele> that is, with allowing us to version this in efi, and letting users use an old version if something goes wrong
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<catmeow72> I was just surprised by the Media Player opening SPC files and playing them succesfully.
<catmeow72> Only problem is it has the same issue looping them as game_music_emu, where it just stops when trying to loop
<nephele> MediaPlayer seems to have problems in general with looping audio. But that may just be problems with media_kit in generall...
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<AlienSoldier> catmeow72 can't play SPC here in media player, perhpas there is a difference between 32 and 64bit.
<AlienSoldier> work in VLC that said
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