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<AVONYX[m]> Hello
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<Radical[m]> Has anyone gotten the m1 to boot something like debian yet? I want to have multiarch for box86/64
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<Radical[m]> Thanks
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<r0ni> anyone know offhand which partition is the vfat efi one? (the device location)
<r0ni> i thought it was nvme0n1p2 but i appear to be wrong
<r0ni> p2 appears to be my macos partiton
<r0ni> guess it has to be p3 or p4
<chadmed> if you started from a vanilla/factory macos install it SHOULD be p4
<chadmed> you could also just like check using lsblk
<chadmed> or blkid
<r0ni> ya i did lsblk, but i'm trying to figure it out cuz its not mounting
<r0ni> i'm assuming its the 477mb one
<chadmed> yeah
<r0ni> i'll try it my next reboot
<chadmed> what error is it giving you when you try to mount it?
<r0ni> oh i'm just adding to fstab, i guess the uuid's change when re-install
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<r0ni> trying to add the dev points rather than uuid
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<chadmed> blkid will give you the UUIDs and PARTUUIDs of every GPT partition on the disk
<chadmed> you have to run it as root though
<r0ni> ahh there we go, it mounts
<r0ni> now all i need to do is figure out why i can't get x11 to work
<r0ni> i installed slackware since i'm a pain in the ass
<r0ni> i'm still pretty fuzzy on the whole boot process and how it works to even think about messing with uboot and grub, but slackware aarch64 isn't shipping grub so if it's needed i'm gonna have to con the dev to include it as an optional install once i wrap my head around it all
<chadmed> u-boot just looks for EFI/BOOT/BOOTAA64.efi
<chadmed> so you could just wrap your kernel and boot it directly
<chadmed> of course youd need to compile in your command line which is very annoying
<r0ni> as of now, i didn't mess with any boot stuff so whatever arch was doing is still working, but that won't work if I'd like to see others be able to use this eventually as well
<r0ni> i seem to be the only person interested in running slackware on m1 lol
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<psydroid[m]1> it does look like that
<r0ni> oh well, works fine for me
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<DannyLombard[m]> Question: Is Firefox supposed to not play youtube video?
<chadmed> it is
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<DannyLombard[m]> Its just loading on my end
<chadmed> might be a sound thing
<chadmed> if firefox cant find a route to a pipewire sink it wont play video
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<cmalvi[m]> <DannyLombard[m]> "Its just loading on my end..." <- I’m using a flatpak version and worked fine, what are you using?
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<DannyLombard[m]> I am using the version that came installed will play around a bit
<j`ey> DannyLombard[m]: try messing with the audio settings, switching audio from input+output to input only and back
<cmalvi[m]> If you want, try the flatpak versione and tell me if works
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<DannyLombard[m]> Okay so installing from platpak does not work cannot find the version
<DannyLombard[m]> Unless or.mozilla.firefox is not the correct one
<cmalvi[m]> org.mozilla.firefox
<cmalvi[m]> Seems you missed a letter
<DannyLombard[m]> Apologies I missed it in typing here but ran the command from the flatpak site
<cmalvi[m]> flatpak install flathub org.mozilla.firefox
<cmalvi[m]> DannyLombard[m]: oh ok
<cmalvi[m]> try librewolf
<cmalvi[m]> same browser
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<cmalvi[m]> just a fork for privacy
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<cmalvi[m]> flatpak install flathub io.gitlab.librewolf-community
<DannyLombard[m]> Will try that and messingg with audio
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<DannyLombard[m]> Okay so I cannot get any audio working
<kode54> yes, you need headphones
<kode54> and possibly a USB sound device
<Sobek[m]> Audio is disabled on some machines for safety reason (otherwise speakers could get damaged easily).
<Sobek[m]> What machine are you using Danny Lombard
<Sobek[m]> ?
<DannyLombard[m]> M1 Air 2020
<DannyLombard[m]> I tried headphones with no success
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<Sobek[m]> Random question, how can you check from command line what mac you are running on ? (Model number or just a string like Mac Mini / MacBookPro Mac Studio etc) ?
<_jannau_> Sobek[m]: on linux? `strings /proc/device-tree/{model,compatible}` (from memory, paths might be wrong)
<j`ey> dmesg | grep "Machine model:"
<nullroute> system_profiler SPHardwareDataType | grep "Model Identifier"
<j`ey> from macOS ^
<nullroute> well he was asking about a m1 macbook air
<nullroute> so I assume he needs the commands for MacOS :P
<j`ey> but.. this channel is for running linux on m1 ;)
<nullroute> ah true true
<nullroute> I have to get around to trying that
<Sobek[m]> Yeah, I was asking from Linux. And thanks. My office mate had access to an unspecified M1 mac over ssh and we wanted to determine what mac it was.
<Sobek[m]> (And it was the obvious suspect, M1 Mac Mini, 2020)
<mps> Sobek[m]: https://tpaste.us/70g9 I have this on my chromebooks to set model on boot and set different working parameters for particular machines, 5 of them
<Sobek[m]> (Running with Asahi, the Mini)
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<Cy8aer[m]> > anyone set up and encrypted LUKS root yet?
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<Cy8aer[m]> (with debian live and debian target)
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<ExeciN[m]> Please ignore the dust specs.
<ExeciN[m]> Booting normally works and gets me to macos
<ExeciN[m]> Booting to recovery doesn't work
<ExeciN[m]> Is there something that i can do to get recovery working again?
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<j`ey> ExeciN[m]: how did you get to this state btw? did you mess with partitions manually?
<ExeciN[m]> Actually I didn't do anything asahi related. The craziest thing I did was to disable sip to test something and then enable sip again but this shouldn't have borked recovery
<ExeciN[m]> j`ey: OS image is not broken. Only recovery
<j`ey> this tweet is about the 'fallback'/system recovery
<ExeciN[m]> So maybe there is a way to fix recovery from macos. Probably not since it is not mounted as RW or not mounted at all
<j`ey> try double-tap-and-hold, instead of hold
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<ktz_[m]> mps: hello, thanks for the updates it works like a charm. definitely props to the alpine guys, I can see alpine really shining now that I'm running another architecture full time.. I mean relevant distros even arch which is so popular look like haven't caught up with it and their arm counterparts even feel lacking proper support in the extend alpine does for instance.. I even switched my rpi back to alpine as they seem to care enough to even
<ktz_[m]> upgrade past 5.10
<ktz_[m]> really glad I'm running alpine on m1 lol.. alpine ended up being my distro of choice on x86 for desktop so its awesome getting to continue rocking it on the m1 as well... flirting with the idea of sticking it into my router as well haha
<mps> ktz_[m]: thank you for testing and reporting (and praising ;) )
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<ktz_[m]> lol now that I think of I even got alpine on my phone with pmos...
<ktz_[m]> you're welcome mps, thanks as well
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<mps> ktz_[m]: if you have any issue/improvments/idea please do not hesitate to tell
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<ktz_[m]> you're an interesting guy so I had many times things crossing my mind I want to tell you but I refrain from spamming you ^^ thanks for the heads up tho
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<mps> :)
<Guest1043> is there an "official" way to install alpine on M1? i just dual boot it with the asahi arch, using kernel & initramfs & /lib/modules from arch, and rootfs from alpine
<mps> Guest1043: https://arvanta.net/alpine/install-alpine-m1/ it is not official but it worked for some people
<sven> i think it'll be a few more months before there will be an official way for any major distribution
<sven> most of them probably won't like to ship downstream kernel hacks to their users
<Guest1043> i see
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<Guest1043> will keep my arch+alpine dual boot setup then
<Guest1043> probably the easiest way to get the latest kernel updates from asahi anyway
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<mps> ktz_[m]: btw, I run alpine on some routers for long time. actually alpine started as distro for routers
<mps> it was based on uclibc but switched to musl when uclibc stopped to be developed
<mps> also openwrt switched to musl 3-4 years ago
<mps> sven: I hope we will start official support for m1 when everything is accepted to mainline kernel
<mps> and u-boot
<sven> yeah, that sounds reasonable
<sven> anything before that is alpha or beta imho
<mps> I agree fully
<_jannau_> I see no conflict with "a few more months" as long as everything is not every bit of hardware in apple silicon systems
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<sven> yeah :-)
<mps> those who want (brave enough) could right now install few unofficial distros, that is quite good achievement imo
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<mps> pushed it to builder
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<jonaburg[m]> why did the asahi linux gpu github page get archived? is there a more up to date repo i can look around in?
<jonaburg[m]> woopsie sorry, wrong channel: :D (just fond the gpu base done)
<jonaburg[m]> thanks!
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<j`ey> weird, rtc just set my system time to 1970..
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<tohatsu[m]> Has the "tps6598x 0-0038: cd321x_interrupt: failed to read events" spam message bug been fixed on Debian Live? It happens sometime after plugging in USB device.
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<sven> it might be fixed with povik’s i2c patch, but I’m not sure that’s in any kernel yet
<tohatsu[m]> what is current kernel version? 5.17-rc7?
<jn> 5.18
<jn> if you mean mainline
<jn> but stable trees are also interesting
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<sven> 5.18-rc1 I think, but it’s not in there yet
<j`ey> linux-next-20220310
<jn> and asahi-specific trees might have a different base version (i don't know, i haven't checked it)
<j`ey> we're currently based on ^ with the aic v2 patches merged in
<jn> sven: ah, oops, right
<sven> it’s on the ML and I reviewed it but it’ll take a bit longer until it makes its way to linux-next and then finally torvald’s tree
<tohatsu[m]> i see. Live was 5.17-rc7 yesterday. Gonna wait a little
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<j`ey> it's so weird to use the m1 without the m1n1 hv :D
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<sven> I still don’t do that :D
<j`ey> :-) I think I'll reboot into recoveryOS at some point, see if that fixes the rtc
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<j`ey> ok, rebooting into recoveryOS and it thinks it's 1976 :/
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<Glanzmann> tohatsu[m]: For me it is gone with povik's patch. I just tested again.
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<Glanzmann> tohatsu[m]: If you redownload debian live, it should be gone. If you have an installed system, you need to udpate the kernel by running "curl -sL https://tg.st/u/ksh | bash" as root or use 'bootstrap.sh' to build the kernel: https://git.zerfleddert.de/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi/m1-debian/blob_plain/refs/heads/master:/bootstrap.sh
<Glanzmann> tohatsu[m]: dmesg: https://pbot.rmdir.de/MkK1l8H3AG_gu_JrKgrJfw
<cmalvi[m]> There is an important update or I understood wrongly?
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<j`ey> cmalvi[m]: if youre not having issues with sound or usb hot plug, no
<r0ni> do we have any way to fix a unbooting grub without re-install? i notice no usb seems to work
<cmalvi[m]> j`ey: Not for now, I think I’ll use asahi more when I can use the JetBrains suite, for now only for test
<j`ey> cmalvi[m]: why doesn't jetbrains work? electron?
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<Glanzmann> cmalvi[m]: There is an i2c patch from povik which seems to fix a lot of issues (sound being unstable, usb flooding you when you plug or unplug a cable, studio usb ports): https://tg.st/u/WQRL.patch
<Glanzmann> r0ni: What is 'unbooting grub'?
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<r0ni> ran the update-grub script, it found my kernel and all, rebooted and it goes into a safe mode with no way out
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<Glanzmann> r0ni: Is this with asahi Linux?
<r0ni> the bootloader, yes. the distro is slackware
<r0ni> trying to see if there a way to find out "what went wrong"
<Glanzmann> r0ni: Okay, than just rewrite the 'update-grub' script to just rewrite the grub.cfg.
<Glanzmann> r0ni: There are two ways to install grub: You either path the path of the boot dir in the grub binary or you use an additional grub.cfg that searches the rootfs using the uuid.
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<Glanzmann> patch*
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<cmalvi[m]> <Glanzmann> "cmalvi: There is an i2c patch..." <- I only have to update kernel with pacman?
<cmalvi[m]> <j`ey> " cmalvi: why doesn't jetbrains..." <- Crash error on startup, I can’t figure out what is the problem
<j`ey> cmalvi[m]: the official asahi linux doesnt have the patch yet, so pacman wont install it
<mps> don't trust update-grub, I learned this long ago, always check
<j`ey> cmalvi[m]: oh, can you paste the error somewhere?
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<r0ni> mps: ya I see that now ;)
<cmalvi[m]> j`ey: Sure, give me few minutes to reboot the Mac and reproduce it
<cmalvi[m]> However I don’t think is related to electron
<j`ey> I think r0ni is using this update-grub https://github.com/AsahiLinux/asahi-scripts/blob/main/update-grub not one provided by grub?
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<cmalvi[m]> j`ey: Oh ok, I’ll wait because I don’t encountered those problem for now, thanks for the news
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<r0ni> j'ey: yes I used that, checked thru it, seemed ok to run. it found my kernel and stuff assumed safe to reboot, I was wrong
<r0ni> just trying to figure out if there a way into the system, i recall you can't boot from usb and i'm pretty sure diskutil don't mount ext4
<j`ey> you can boot from a usb stick on the USB C port
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<r0ni> oooh ok, is there a good to go live image? or do I have to make one?
<mps> r0ni: if you want alpine I can post url
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<r0ni> sure, if it boots, any linux is fine
<mps> r0ni: and read first part how to install wifi firmware here https://arvanta.net/alpine/install-alpine-m1/
<mps> as you probably know we can't ship firmware in anything
<mps> r0ni: skip first part of guide and to the 'simpler method'
<r0ni> ya, i have that backed up already so i can get the files
<cmalvi[m]> j`ey: I’m reinstalling idea
<mps> I should put this 'simpler method' section on top
<bluetail[m]> mps: move it on a different page called "Details for the script used"
<j`ey> r0ni: is your grub.cfg on the ext4 or the vfat partition?
<bluetail[m]> just make it quick and painless
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<mps> bluetail[m]: probably should reorganize and extend guide but don't have much free time
<r0ni> mmmm seems its on ext4 as its not anywhere visible from macos
<j`ey> r0ni: oh ok
<mps> and I pushed linux-asahi few hours ago to official alpine repo (though in testing section)
<bluetail[m]> mps: what do you work as?
<mps> bluetail[m]: programming and system administration
<bluetail[m]> that sounds so common / boring (what I do)
<mps> :)
<r0ni> mps: thank you for that image!
<cmalvi[m]> The “compressing package” part using aur is kinda slow also for you?
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* cmalvi[m] posted a file: Intellij-idea-error-asahi-linux (10KiB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/dZQVAJEGtLWNxhwAQHylSLZt >
<cmalvi[m]> cmalvi[m]: j`ey: is too long so i uploaded a plain text
<j`ey> cmalvi[m]: ok yah, nothing obvious
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<cmalvi[m]> Unfortunately no
<cmalvi[m]> I know they only support arm devices on macOS for now
<cmalvi[m]> I hope they change this soon
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<derzahl> is there a testing repo for more bleeding edge versions?
<derzahl> the asahi kernel it repo also doesnt seem to have a lot going on recently besides a branch called nvme-something
<derzahl> wheres the best place to look if I want to build a bleeding edge kernel?
<j`ey> that is it
<j`ey> there's no new changes recently
<derzahl> ah ok
<j`ey> the nvme changes are for upstreaming
<derzahl> anyone try patching the scheduler or adding other tweaks like mglru?
<derzahl> (i like to break things :) )
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<j`ey> since the merge window is closed now, hopefully there will be some progress on upstreaming some of the other parts, if the authors have the time
<derzahl> gotcha, but the nvme branch should be functional?
<j`ey> don't use that branch, it only has nvme, none of the other features
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<j`ey> use the main asahi branch
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<derzahl> ok, thanks
<kettenis> if you want cool new features you'll have to write them yourself ;)
<derzahl> has anyone gotten booting from an encrypted root working? I created a luks device and tried to do a pacstrap but it hung on systemd generating a machine id
<derzahl> tried rsyncing my working system to the luks root and had big hangs. might be related to my root fs though being ZFS
<derzahl> im mostily wondering if there are any gotchas with uboot booting from a lukes device. as I have 0 uboot experience
<j`ey> derzahl: there's some notes here https://g3la.de/hedgedoc/s/MIaCyVv1A#
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<kettenis> I don't think u-boot supports any kind of disk encryption
<kettenis> so you probably need to boot something like grub from an unencrypted EFI System Partition
<derzahl> thanks j`ey!
<derzahl> kettenis: looks like that's what they are doing
<derzahl> hmm
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<Cy8aer[m]> Yes this is the classical way debian does it when you install luks with the debian installer: `/boot` is unencrypted.
<Cy8aer[m]> Never tried to use an encrypted `/boot` from grub (which should work too).
<derzahl> any reason to have a separate /boot versus just mounting the EFI partition to /boot ?
<cmalvi[m]> Cy8aer[m]: Does fedora and pop os do it? So it should work
<derzahl> ive never used encrypted boots. im not too worried about the information there
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<Cy8aer[m]> > any reason to have a separate /boot versus just mounting the EFI partition to /boot ?
<Cy8aer[m]> That depends on what you want to put into boot. If you have some kernels/initramfs `/boot` grows.
<Cy8aer[m]> (and we only have 200-500M)
<Cy8aer[m]> there is a limit according to @Glanzmann 's quickstart.txt
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<derzahl> i typically dont keep any kernels around
<cmalvi[m]> Cy8aer: I remember now that there is a patched version of grub that allow to boot from encrypted partition
<Cy8aer[m]> and `efi` is mounted to `/boot/efi`
<derzahl> and ideally i wont need initrds
<Cy8aer[m]> yep in the initrd the whole luks/lvm decrypt stuff is included. And user space hibernate - if needed.
<derzahl> i plan to all the required drivers in statically and use LLVM+lto
<Cy8aer[m]> without secure boot these initrds can de-hibernate.
<Cy8aer[m]> from crypted systems too.
<derzahl> im ok without hibernate. but i forgot about how arch uses the initrd for decryption hooks
<derzahl> might need initrd afterall
<kettenis> the amount of self-inflicted pain by people who just want to do things different amazes me ;)
<derzahl> i just want encryption. and i dont like extra /boot partitions:)
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<derzahl> hell, im not even trying to install a different OS. I like Arch:)
<bluetail[m]> derzahl: I think it still takes a bit till its 'ready to use'. I simply cannot deploy Jellyfin + external SSD storage there like I do on macOS.
<bluetail[m]> But thats ok.
<derzahl> bluetail[m]: everything is working great so far. once i get encryption then i can start using it as my daily driver
<bluetail[m]> derzahl: Do you at least have enough storage?
<Cy8aer[m]> > bluetail: everything is working great so far. once i get encryption then i can start using it as my daily driver
<Cy8aer[m]> which is for me.
<derzahl> i should be fine on storage
<bluetail[m]> it isnt for me
<derzahl> i left 80gb for OSX
<derzahl> 20 for initial linux install
<derzahl> and then i have a 120GB LUKS device
<bluetail[m]> even with only USB2 (as USB3 is missing), Jellyfin takes forever to read from the USB storage
<bluetail[m]> idk if thats a Jellyfin problem
<derzahl> i can maybe suck that 20GB back into my LUKS device once I get the encrypted root working
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<bluetail[m]> but its annoying enough to stay on macOS
<derzahl> ive really grown to dislike macOS
<derzahl> with version 11 i think
<derzahl> somewhere around then
<bluetail[m]> I just hope the problems vanish
<bluetail[m]> Perhaps a alternative media server would do the thing
<derzahl> so secure boot is stil on?
<derzahl> awwh. so it looks like https://g3la.de/hedgedoc/s/MIaCyVv1A# , you need to usb a USB drive to boot the encrypted root?
<derzahl> *use
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<derzahl> oh hmm.. grub is already installedon asahi
<j`ey> no, thats just making a USB stick as a live distro to boot to
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