<kode54>
AUR is literally "grab the package and add aarch64 to the arches list"
<kode54>
unless it's a binary only package
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<Fl1tzi[m]>
Hey did not really look in the development stage of asahi recently but after about a month now I still don't see any kind of updates on my issue on gh. Is currently anyone online who knows why no one is wanting to fix it? https://github.com/AsahiLinux/linux/issues/21
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<steev>
most likely answer, no one else has a german keyboard? you could always look into fixing it yourself and submitting the patch?
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<richardburleigh>
Is the lack of eGPU support on M1 Macs at the hardware or software level? Yeah they have terrible bandwidth, but would be great for prototyping ML code with a hard CUDA dependency
<bvaa[m]>
i heard some people install debian from asahi? how does that work? doesn't m1 need a custom kernel etc?
<AdryzzOLEDEdition[m]>
<richardburleigh> "Is the lack of eGPU support on M..." <- if it supports TB4 then it has to support PCIe => eGPU
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<chadmed>
the problem with GPUs is that the PCIe spec calls for a 64-bit DMA window
<chadmed>
now youd _think_ that multi billion dollar companies would be capable of following this spec
<chadmed>
but theyre not
<chadmed>
because Intel decided that a 40 bit DMA controller was plenty
<chadmed>
so of course all the GPU AIBs just use 40-bit controllers on their cards, because who would ever want to use a PCIe card in something other than an x86 PC
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<chadmed>
basically YMMV with GPUs if we can get them working at all
<chadmed>
most AMD reference models and workstation cards will probably work fine
<chadmed>
you have no real chance with nvidia cards of course since their drivers are amd64 blobs
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<sven>
here the issue will nore
<sven>
*more likely be that we can only map memory as nGnRE on the pcie bus
<sven>
and also only do 4 byte aligned access
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<AdryzzOLEDEdition[m]>
oh
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<jannau>
wasn't the 4 byte reads issue just limited to the sd-card reader?
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<sven>
oh, was it just for the sd card reader? I thought every non-aligned read didn’t work
<maz>
device mappings don't allow non-aligned accesses. as for non-32bit accesses, it isn't clear to me whether that's a specific device problem, or something more general. Does USB or TG3 use any sub-32bit access?
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<sven>
note that usb 3 != thunderbolt or usb4
<sven>
what these ports can’t do in usb 3 mode seems to be lane bonding which is required for 20 Gbps
<sven>
and that blog post is already confused by the usb naming at the beginning. you can have 3.2 ports than can only do 10 Gbps just fine.
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<TheLink>
is lane bonding a hardware or a firmware feature?
<sven>
usb 3 mode doesn’t require any firmware to be loaded. there might be some internal ROMs but those are unchangable anyway
<sven>
and usb4 mode uses both lanes anyway
<sven>
(this only applies to the actual usb4/tbt ports. some macs (iMac and Mac studio I think) also have usb 3 ports that are different)
<TheLink>
ok
<TheLink>
thank you!
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<gruetze_>
on the actual pci(e) bus it's a 32 or 64bit read anyways
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<neggles>
hmm. the author of this article has been confused by USB-IF, and has also managed to make the overwhelming majority of their results entirely moot.
<neggles>
> A range of different external SSDs was used, using Crucial and Samsung SATA SSDs. In personal testing, these were mounted in basic UGREEN and similar cases claimed to be compatible with USB 3.1 Gen 2.
<neggles>
if all the SSDs you test with are in SATA drive enclosures, you're never going to see north of 5Gbps throughput regardless of how much bandwidth the port has
<neggles>
and hidden towards the end is an admission of the problem and that their results are invalid... > However, a Sabrent+Samsung NVMe conforming to USB 3.2 was found to connect at 10 Gb/s, and returned a read rate of 911 MB/s and write of 973 MB/s.
<neggles>
IOW, "connecting a 6Gbps-at-best-but-not-really SATA SSD to a 10Gbps USB port doesn't make it faster"...
<sven>
one of the results also sounds like a bad cable because it falls back to what suspiciously is usb 2 speed
<neggles>
yeah, the ~200mbps from the front USB-C port
<neggles>
that's either a bad cable/bad connection, or a bug in the driver for the M1 Max studio's front USB-only ports
<sven>
yeah
<sven>
m1 max should have USB ports at the front that are connected via a third party controller attached over pcie iirc
<sven>
so my money is in a bad cable
<sven>
*on
<st3g4n0[m]>
Guys i have installed the new asahi alpha with the installer.. but im not getting the kvm
<st3g4n0[m]>
if do lsmod | grep kvm
<st3g4n0[m]>
nothing shows
<maz>
KVM is not a module.
<maz>
'dmesg| grep kvm' should say something if KVM is compiled in.
<st3g4n0[m]>
im trying to get running gem5 but
<st3g4n0[m]>
panic: Failed to create KVM VM
<st3g4n0[m]>
iotcl returns -1
<maz>
probably because GEM5 is buggy and creates a VM with the default IPA size, which the M1 cannot support by default./
<st3g4n0[m]>
maybe.. will see
<maz>
I fixed QEMU, kvmtool and CrosVM. someone else can pick that sucker.
* maz
steps away from the computer...
<st3g4n0[m]>
maz could you help us to get it working?
<st3g4n0[m]>
* maz: could
<mps>
st3g4n0[m]: you have to build qemu from git repo, latest stable doesn't work
<st3g4n0[m]>
i have last qemu
<st3g4n0[m]>
7.0
<mps>
when the 7.0 is released
<mps>
ah, you mean rc release
<st3g4n0[m]>
by source code
<st3g4n0[m]>
7.0.0-rc4
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<mps>
then it should work
<mps>
st3g4n0[m]: what is you cmdline?
<st3g4n0[m]>
mps: im using gem5 to start it... so i dont know xd
<mps>
st3g4n0[m]: ah, I don't know what is gem5
<st3g4n0[m]>
how can i see kvm logs?
<mps>
st3g4n0[m]: `qemu-system-aarch64 -bios QEMU_EFI.fd -machine virt -m 1G -cpu host -smp cores=4 -accel kvm -nographic -cdrom alpine-standard-3.15.0-aarch64.iso` this is one simple example how I run qemu
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<marcan>
maz: sub-32bit works on WiFi
<marcan>
that's why I was confused about that SD nonsense
<marcan>
sven: ^
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<marcan>
my only ideas are either 1) apple is using cheap old stock of those chips with a bug or something, or missing an EEPROM with a fix, or some similar cost cutting reason, or 2) the chips are buggy and report completions for <32bit in a noncompliant way that *some* root ports accept but M1 doesn't, or 3) M1 does request TLPs for <32bit in a different (hopefully still compliant) way that these chips hate
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<marcan>
richardburleigh: also, if you want CUDA, that means you'll be using the nvidia proprietary driver, and there is a ~0% chance nvidia cares about issues specific to these ARM64 platforms (e.g. 16K pages), and a good chance they will happen, and ~no chance of fixing them in their blob driver
<marcan>
so even if eGPUs can be made to work with open drivers (nouveau/amdgpu), chances are even slimmer for nvidia blobs, and most people here don't care about them and won't spend any time on them either
<tpw_rules>
does nvidia publish amd64 drivers for anything other than jetsons anyway?
<opticron>
I'm sure I'll keep running the bleeding edge kernel for that reason
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<opticron>
also, the m1n1 installed by that script has a bug where u-boot doesn't start up automatically (at least last time I pulled from it, you had to manually type "run distro_bootcmd")
<opticron>
might just be a me thing, though
<j`ey>
opticron: sounds like a you thing.. it should
<j`ey>
oh, 'that script' meaning debian
<opticron>
yes, glanzmann stuff
<opticron>
who seems to have disappeared
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<asahi-test[m]>
Hello all',
<asahi-test[m]>
Hello all,
<asahi-test[m]>
What is the tool to delete partitions from a previous install from asahi. Mac does not seem them. Thanks
<j`ey>
diskutil at the macOS command line
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<asahi-test[m]>
The idea is to free the space so that a bigger partition could be made available to it on a fresh install.
<Glanzmann>
opticron: I have not disapeared, just had a lot to process after my father dies on 1st april in my arms. He had stage4 lung cancer and lived for the last few months with us.
<Glanzmann>
opticron: My stub was also too old. Since most people run probably Debian alone, maybe I should undo the patch for now and add it later.
<bluetail[m]>
Glanzmann: my condolences. I didnt knew Peter but one thing is for sure - I think both of you are contributing for the better. I don't have contact to my own father due to corruption. I hope you had a good time with him and could enjoy it. When I think of you, I often adore your capability/intellect. Perhaps I'm someday a bit more like you.
<opticron>
Glanzmann, sorry to hear it, I know how that is
<opticron>
lost mine in a similar manner about 3 years ago
<nicolas17>
lung cancer is fucking terrible :/
* Sobek[m]
sends hugs to Glanzmann
<Sobek[m]>
Take care of yourself and do whatever helps you cope.
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<mps>
Glanzmann: my condolence
<mps>
(also I lost father some years ago)
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<JohnAntoine>
Heyy folks, How's everyone doing?
<JohnAntoine>
I'm happy to finally have the time to try side loading Asahi with macOS, it's surprisingly snappy considering that it has no hardware graphics acceleration yet
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<JohnAntoine>
Did any one manage to get LXD and linux containers running? I know about the 16k page size problem, but I'm not sure if there's a workaround
<JohnAntoine>
It's mentioned that it affects "general containerization" or something like that
<j`ey>
where?
<mps>
last time I tested something with docker it worked
<JohnAntoine>
I tried LXD and it didn't initialize the daemon, so I assumed it's because of that issue
<j`ey>
JohnAntoine: theres no issue with containers/VMs, not sure where you read that
<JohnAntoine>
"There is a category of software that will likely never support 16K page sizes: certain emulators and compatibility layers, including FEX. Android is also affected, in case someone wants to try running it natively some day. For users of these tools, we will provide 4K page size kernels in the future, once the kernel changes that make this possible are ready for upstreaming."
<JohnAntoine>
that's the source of my assumption
<j`ey>
emulator, not container
<JohnAntoine>
I lumped LXD with the category of emulation
<j`ey>
its not in that category!
<JohnAntoine>
Well, I wanted to see it anyone managed to get LXD working
<JohnAntoine>
either in container mode or in VM mode
<mps>
JohnAntoine: fyi qemu works
<mps>
if that could be ok for you
<JohnAntoine>
I could try pure QEMU, but it is much easier to manage things through LXD
<JohnAntoine>
I'll try again sometime today and get back here with results
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<Sobek[m]>
Random question, has anyone got a MBP that sometime makes crackling noises under macOS ? Do such noise also appear under Linux or not ?
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<nicolas17>
Sobek[m]: from the speakers?
<Sobek[m]>
Yes ! Under Asahi it might be hard to observe if it happens, given speakers are currently disabled by default (for speaker safety)
<nicolas17>
then we can't have an answer for "Do such noise also appear under Linux or not ?" :)
<sven>
I guess we can currently answer it with “no” ;p
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<AndyzzstuMak[m]>
Hi, I just started downloading asahi on my 2020 Macbook Pro. How long does it take to create a partition? My computer has been frozen on Mission Control for over an hour and I can't get out of it. Is there anyway I can resolve this? Thanks.
<nicolas17>
it's normal (and Apple's fault) that resizing partitions freezes the system
<nicolas17>
I don't know how long it takes, it might depend on how much data you have, or even on how much data was physically located "later" in the disk so it needs to be moved
<AndyzzstuMak[m]>
I think it said it was freeing up 200GB. I don't think it should take 2 hours tho.
<AndyzzstuMak[m]>
I can't see an update on the terminal window either, as it's been stuck on the same screen as well.
<neggles>
yeah it definitely shouldn’t take 2 hours
<AndyzzstuMak[m]>
I don't know what could unfreeze it besides powering off, which im not supposed to do
<tpw_rules>
i think it can take that long in some cases
<nicolas17>
if it is indeed still resizing the filesystem, powering it off is almost guaranteed data corruption
<tpw_rules>
apple's stuff warns "minutes or hours"
<neggles>
i’m afraid I don’t really know either, but yeah turning it off during a resize has a nonzero chance of going horribly wrong
<neggles>
s/nonzero/significant
<tpw_rules>
did it tell you if it completed the filesystem check? or can you not see the terminal?
<neggles>
tpw_rules: hours if you’re unfortunate enough to be running it on an Intel mac with a HDD :P
<neggles>
doesn’t mean it can’t still be doing it though
<AndyzzstuMak[m]>
So when i first went into mission control, it was at 15%. But since it's been frozen, it hasn't changed at all in the past 2 hours.
<tpw_rules>
touching it was your mistake
<neggles>
^
<tpw_rules>
but yeah, i really wouldn't power it off.
<nicolas17>
while it's resizing the partition, nothing else can access the disk, opening mission control probably caused a disk read and made everything freeze until the resize finishes
<AndyzzstuMak[m]>
welp, we'll see what happens, but i don't think it's going anywhere
<neggles>
maybe a race condition of sorts, MC trying to do a read/write which won’t complete but is also blocking resize completion
<AndyzzstuMak[m]>
im going to let it sit for at least another 30ish mins
<neggles>
and now for the words everyone hates to hear: do you have a backup?
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<AndyzzstuMak[m]>
no, but i had nothing important on it, as i had just deleted like 300gb worth of stuff before trying to install asahi
<tpw_rules>
do you have another computer if it gets really screwed and you have to DFU restore it?
<neggles>
welp. leave it as long as you feel is reasonable then hard poweroff
<neggles>
the recovery volumes should all be fine in theory
<AndyzzstuMak[m]>
sleep wouldn't do anything rright?
<neggles>
sleep would, if anything, make it worse
<neggles>
i doubt it would actually go to sleep
<AndyzzstuMak[m]>
yeah, that makes sense
<AndyzzstuMak[m]>
right now im on my school chromebook, so i dont think it can restore anything
<neggles>
at this point it’s “wait as long as you feel is justified, then cross your fingers and reboot it”
<nicolas17>
tpw_rules: recoveryOS *should* be fine right? so it shouldn't need DFU
<tpw_rules>
i think so but someone came in the other day where it didn't seem to be, or at least they didn't know how to access it
<AndyzzstuMak[m]>
if i shutdown, do i let it go into recovery mode?