<marcan>
apparently Asahi Linux is blocked in china because they block... raw.githubusercontent.com.
<marcan>
sigh.
<marcan>
this is why we can't have nice things
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<nicolas17>
marcan: one of the most annoying we had to deal with in KDE was when Russia was trying to block Telegram and ended up blocking large chunks of DigitalOcean
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<nicolas17>
(that was in 2018, there's whole new concerns about Internet connectivity in Russia now)
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<marcan>
ugh
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<as400[m]>
cmalvi: booting frrom encrypted /boot is possible but only using luks1. They have some POC booting from luks2 in grub but it's not stable yet afaik
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<cmalvi[m]>
as400[m]: Oh cool to know really, thanks
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<Mayel[m]>
That worked 👍 BTW I found that you can do `sudo tmutil deletelocalsnapshots /` which is faster than what that article recommends
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<cmalvi[m]>
<kode54> "they switched to that months ago..." <- Alarm repo is asahi only?
<kode54>
?
<kode54>
alarm repo is alarm
<kode54>
the only repo that's asahi is the one with the kernel and a couple of other packages
<kode54>
all the rest are arch linux arm upstream
<cmalvi[m]>
Oh ok thanks
<cmalvi[m]>
Never see alarm repo on my other pc with so that’s why asked
<kode54>
arch linux arm has its own repos
<Sobek[m]>
alarm stands for arch linux arm (just in case you had not caught the hidden meaning, it took me a while to notice it)
<cmalvi[m]>
Sobek[m]: Exactly ahaha
<cmalvi[m]>
Thanks 😂
<kode54>
sorry about that
<cmalvi[m]>
The arm version of arch is official or unofficial?
<cmalvi[m]>
Just for curiosity
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<ella-0[m]>
The alarm repo is specific to arch linux arm and will not be found in normal arch Linux
<cmalvi[m]>
ella-0[m]: Yes I read it in previous messages, took a while to understand the meaning of alarm name
<mps>
A(rch)L(Linux)ARM
<j`ey>
cmalvi[m]: it's a community fork, so it isn't official
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<cmalvi[m]>
<j`ey> "cmalvi: it's a community fork..." <- Oh thanks, got it
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<Mayel[m]>
I installed debian but unable to connect to WiFi, ifup is showing a few errors (failed to update device address, set p2p_disc error, and add iface p2p-dev-wlp1s0f type 10 failed) and then saying no dhcp offers received, any hints?
<Cy8aer[m]>
Firmware missing in `/lib/firmware`, `wpa_supplicant` missing or not configured?
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<Mayel[m]>
wpa_supplicant is configured, what firmware dir or file should I be checking for?
<Cy8aer[m]>
But I thought that iwd can be configured via NM then, but it must be done via iwctl. NM only shows the connection.
<mps>
it can be used with NM but iirc needs some tweaks
<cmalvi[m]>
<kode54> "does iwctl work with KDE or..." <- Don’t know, I’ve used iwctl from terminal on the first setup, then I disable it and installed the gnome network manager
<mps>
better use iwctl, it is less complicated to setup and use
<kode54>
how about I don't even use wifi, since I have ethernet
<Cy8aer[m]>
I didn't think about anything and installed gnome via tasksel and it just worked...
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<cmalvi[m]>
kode54: For iwctl you need only few commands, like three or four, all present in the arch wiki
<Cy8aer[m]>
... on the desktop with NM and wpa2_sup
<Cy8aer[m]>
but @glanzmann: used iwp too.
<kode54>
bet I also need to start the dhcpd manually too
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<asyncvoid[m]>
Hi, I was wondering if anyone has installed Asahi on an external drive? The documentation says its possible, I was wondering if its as simple as changing the installation partition in the installation script
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<mps>
asyncvoid[m]: you can do this manually, that is how I installed it first time
<asyncvoid[m]>
mps: Thank you, is there any documentation/tutorial for this?
<mps>
asyncvoid[m]: afaik no, but I have script to install alpine on usb disk which you can adapt for your distro preference if you want it
<bluetail[m]>
<mps> "asyncvoid: https://arvanta.net/..."; <- is it possible to write a script that wrecks the entire m1 easily?
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<nyanpasu64>
<kode54> "makepkg on alarm still defaults..." <- sigh, local makepkg compression slows down makepkg and hinders fast install or iteration, i turn it off on every machine i setup
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<mps>
bluetail[m]: sure, it is possible :D
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<bluetail[m]>
mps: whats the dumbest way todo that? re-flash the cpu firmware with random data?
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<mps>
cat /dev/random > /dev/nvme0nX
<bluetail[m]>
:D
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<sven>
and even then all you need is a second machine and a usb cable to restore it
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<mps>
yes, but user didn't asked how to melt it, only make wreck of it :)
<bluetail[m]>
i heard that u can destroy the speakers easily
<bluetail[m]>
But if you can restore anything you could write in the guide that 'nothing can go wrong - in the end you can restore your OS with a second mac' ?
<bluetail[m]>
everything*
<sven>
it also works with a second Linux machine
<mps>
bluetail[m]: I fried speakers on one chromebook 2-3 years ago
<sven>
I don’t think anyone has tried erasing the nor flash yet but even that can be restored allegedly
<bluetail[m]>
omg :D
<mps>
someone here even melted speakers and plastic, also on chromebook
<j`ey>
note that the speakers are disabled by default in asahi
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<Jamu[m]>
hi, I know installing asahi to an external drive is not possible, but I also need the space and still want to try asahi, would I be able to install asahi as normal and set the linux environment to use my external drive for / like I would on x86 linux installs?
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<kettenis>
you'll need ~3GB of free space on the NVMe storage to install the UEFI environment
<kettenis>
but with that done, you can install Linux on the external drive
<Jamu[m]>
ok thanks :)
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<j`ey>
there's no script to do that for you
<j`ey>
oh
<kettenis>
as long as you find I suitable Linux distro that comes with a kernel that supports the M1
<kettenis>
find a suitable Linux distro I mean
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<mps>
jannau: read todays backlog here, about 20 lines above
<j`ey>
wrong person, Jamu[m] left
<mps>
oh, sorry
<mps>
I didn't looked nick carefully
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<WhyNotHugo>
When m1n1 is installed, it gets signed with a machine-specific key, right?
<WhyNotHugo>
So could one build a custom version of m1n1 with an embeded public key, and have it boot into a signed u-boot with also an embeded public key, and the result in a working SecureBoot setup?
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<j`ey>
there's some signing going on with bputil(?), but nothing accessible to us
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<steev>
why is 3GB needed for UEFI?
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<j`ey>
steev: all the apple firmware, recovery image etc
<lkvrsfld[m]>
steev: The 3GB includes a „fake“ macos stub partition to create another boot entry. That includes some basic files etc. to let the bootloader think it‘s a mac-os partition
<steev>
oh got ya, okay, i thought this was in addition to that, sorry
<j`ey>
steev: yeah we ship about 1000 copies of m1n1 and uboot :P
<steev>
lol, that was my initial thought... "how friggin big is that"
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<Sobek[m]>
<WhyNotHugo> "So could one build a custom..." <- Basically the first stage m1n1 is signed with a key and checked, from it is up to us (apple hands us a secured boot chain until this fake macOS kernel and then we are on our own), but eventually m1n1 will be able to validate its second stage, and in turn u-boot, and then the usual secure boot stuff could be done.
<Sobek[m]>
Someone needs to write the code in m1n1 for it though.
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<WhyNotHugo>
Sobek[m]: Oh, but it's possible!
<WhyNotHugo>
Would using Rust for the signature crypto stuff be reasonable?
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<M0n0w1c[m]>
On my nixos install, I find today that I am unable to resolve cache.nixos.org for some unknown reason. I can resolve other domain names and I can resolve it on another computer.
<M0n0w1c[m]>
However, I am stuck. How can I add a host entry for cache.nixos.org and/or reconfigure without resolving that hostname?
<M0n0w1c[m]>
* cache.nixos.org and/or otherwise reconfigure without
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<jannau>
WhyNotHugo: rust is planned for the signature verification
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