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<frekkson> maybe this is an occasion to talk about ARM support: https://events.ccc.de/congress/2023/hub/en/event/arch-linux-user-meetup/ ?
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<PixFrom13> Hi from a newly installed f39/asahi on a m1 macbook air :)
<j`ey> PixFrom13: ^_^
<PixFrom13> it's struggling a bit but still impressive
<j`ey> PixFrom13: what exactly is struggling?
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<PixFrom13> the display, because i plugged it on a DisplayLink dock which is a proprietary solution that if i understood well create a gigantic framebuffer, and expose it as multiple screens to the OS
<PixFrom13> i effectively have 2 1080p hdmi screens alongside the Macbook
<PixFrom13> On top of that i encrypted all the filesystem so i guess it's taking a small toll too
<PixFrom13> but the only real "issue" is that audio is very, very choppy, on a confcall i can either see the presentation, ot have the audio, but not both :))
<j`ey> ah, well yeah, I think that's just going to be pretty slow cos of USB etc
<PixFrom13> workaround for now is tu use audio from my phone, i can live with that
<j`ey> (Im not sure if display link uses the GPU?)
<PixFrom13> it does, i have glmark2 pretty smooth ( not as much as a single display), but the big framebuffer may stretch the abilities of the gpu
<PixFrom13> at least it's how i read the drop of performance
<j`ey> when USB C displays work, that should hopefully get better
<PixFrom13> yes i'll switch to a more standard dock :)
<PixFrom13> but displaylink is a lifesaver in the meanwhile
<j`ey> PixFrom13: have you tried the displaylink thing on another computer?
<PixFrom13> yes, on my previous laptop, a ryzen 5700u, works with no issues/lags
<j`ey> I see
<PixFrom13> fedora 39 too so comparable
<j`ey> audio isnt choppy in general, so some issue with that confcall (or maybe high load due to the displaylink..?)
<PixFrom13> i think it's the load on the usb-c port
<PixFrom13> youtube also have choppy audio
<j`ey> check CPU usage, try without the displays attached etc
<PixFrom13> Yup i will
<PixFrom13> right now i'm trying to play with ionice/renice on the audio subsystem ( the userland part) to try to smooth things over
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<PixFrom13> cpu is not higher than 8-9% though it may be the bandwidth of the usb-c port that is struggling ( i have the 2 screens, ethernet, keyboard/mouse on it )
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<ydalton> PixFrom13: congrats!
<PixFrom13> thanks :)
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<PixFrom13> had some issues when encrypting the disk, but the standard install in itself went flawlessly :)
<ydalton> i'd personally like an external display on my m2 air but i don't know anything about displaylink
<ydalton> how did you encrypt the disk?
<PixFrom13> followed this
<PixFrom13> only issue was with mkosi 15.1, had to upgrade to 19
<PixFrom13> Otherwise there were a strange permission error when trying to create the EFI boot partition
<ydalton> that looks almost a year old, before fedora asahi was even announced to the public
<PixFrom13> displaylink was just dumb luck, i have a few docking station @work from lenovo/dell, saw the displaylink sticker on one of them, looked into it and saw someone on asahi reporting a sucessfull usage
<PixFrom13> look at the end
<PixFrom13> "Updated on Oct 14, 2023 to use official Fedora Asahi Remix installer and bring use of recovery drive for encryption setup up to date."
<ydalton> that's a really bad spot to put an "updated thing"
<ydalton> you'd usually put at right at the top, but anyways
<ydalton> i wonder about SEP support, it's probably really low on support since it's not necessary
<ydalton> *low on the list of priorities
<PixFrom13> SEP ?
<ydalton> secure enclave processor
<j`ey> allows touch ID and other stuff like that
<PixFrom13> ah ok
<ydalton> and disk encryption iirc
<ydalton> like hardware based disk encryption
<ydalton> iirc, the only use of it is in m1n1 to use its TRNG api, but that's about it
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<sven> pretty much, it’s used to generate entropy for the kernel
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<sven> that’s still inside the SEP bootrom
<j`ey> pretty nice of them to expose that for us :P
<sven> there was also a bit of reverse engineering of the actual sepos ipc but that‘s still in the very early stages
<sven> yup :D
<sven> I guess it’s also somehow used early in the boot rom
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<nicolas17> sven: oh wow I didn't know you were doing *anything* with the SEP yet
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<sven> the whole thing is <100 lines of code iirc
<nicolas17> different protocol than all the other sep thingies?
<sven> it's still inside its boot rom
<sven> the protocol there is very very simple
<sven> iirc it's just a single command with a single reply to get 32bits from the hardware rng
<nicolas17> neat
<sven> lol
<nicolas17> hmm isn't there some extra sanity check you could add
<sven> maybe just an empty line to make the code, uh, easier to read!
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<nicolas17> there should be one before the memcpy yeah
<nicolas17> that will look "nicer"
<nicolas17> ;)
<nicolas17> sven: did you see that Rust 1.69 was released on 4/20 and it was apparently not intentional?
<sven> :D
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<nicolas17> macOS 14.2 RC is out
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