#asahi on 2023-12-22 — irc logs at oftc.irclog.whitequark.org

2023-03-01 05:50 marcan changed the topic of #asahi to: Asahi Linux: porting Linux to Apple Silicon macs | "Does XXX work yet?": https://alx.sh/fs | GitHub: https://alx.sh/g | Wiki: https://alx.sh/w | Topics: #asahi-dev #asahi-re #asahi-gpu #asahi-alt #asahi-stream #asahi-offtopic | Keep things on topic | Logs: https://alx.sh/l/asahi

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05:11 <novaandromeda> tf happening here

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06:03 <holiday> hello

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06:04 <holiday> i installed asahi using the script, shrinked macOS and then went on to install linux and gave i thin around 65GB

06:04 <holiday> at the "srink macOS" i typed min

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06:04 <holiday> now i have two partitions, one with 127GB and one with 65

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06:05 <holiday> where is the rest of my storage? :( i should have around 240 gbs

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06:10 <holiday> i will take the install from the beginning brb

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08:09 <holiday> fixed it, got my storage back

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08:28 <PaulFertser> Can we have vLily9 fixed please? It's probably a smartphone IRC client reconnecting all the time or something.

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08:31 <sven> i've configured my client to just hide joins/parts

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08:32 <PaulFertser> I prefer to see parts to avoid replying to people who leave before getting an answer.

08:34 <sven> many people here use the public logs instead of a bouncer

08:34 <sven> so they ask a question, possibly leave and then come back later after reading logs

08:34 <PaulFertser> Here yes.

08:35 <sven> either way, i'm not going to kick someone for joining/leaving many times here

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08:36 <PaulFertser> Even though you can as a member of @asahi-mod . But if that's considered to be OK to spam this channel with joins/parts hundred times a day, OK, I understand, policy is policy, up to you to decide. Just goes against the usual IRC practicies.

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08:37 <leio> I think this join and immediate quit spam is a tad bit too much to let it continue.

08:37 <sven> not sure we have a policy, just seems a bit extreme to me

08:37 <sven> something like /ignore -channels #asahi * JOINS PARTS QUITS might work to just ignore it

08:39 <chaos_princess> certain clients allow you only show join/parts from people who talked recently, that might be what you want

08:40 <PaulFertser> Do I understand it right that most of DannyB brcmfmac patches were never posted for upstream review and that any feedback for them is better directed to the asahi mailing list?

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08:41 <PaulFertser> chaos_princess: certainly not what /I'd/ want. On #openwrt I often see people asking questions I'm sometimes able to help with, but if they leave right away I do not even bother trying to understand what they asked about.

08:42 <chaos_princess> wait, doesn't that exactly solve your problem? Someone asks a question, leaves, since they talked recently, their part message gets shown, you then don't bother to respond

08:42 <leio> switching IRC client to one that supports it (I know of none) isn't a viable solution anyways

08:43 <PaulFertser> On Libera it's customary to use special mode to redirect bouncing users to ##fix-your-connection channel where they have all the explanations and instructions how to ping the ops after they fix the connection.

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08:44 <PaulFertser> chaos_princess: I must have misread, sorry, I thought it was about whom I talked to recently.

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08:51 <j`ey> sven: im ok with a temporary ban

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08:52 <sven> lol

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08:53 <sven> PaulFertser: i think DannyB's on vacation but I guess github works for feedback since that's where he originally posted them

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09:01 <PaulFertser> sven: got it, thank you

09:01 <j`ey> I hate the irc mask stuff, since I use it so rarelt

09:02 <PaulFertser> j`ey: thanks for taking care about it!

09:02 <j`ey> hopefully that works

09:09 <j`ey> alarumbe: did you add support to nvtop for panfrost, or just a similar username?

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11:03 <pitust> okay so i built asahi-6.6-14 (bd0a1a7d465fcb60685a2360565ed424bafff354), and now my graphics accel broke...

11:03 <pitust> i'm back to llvmpipe

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11:05 <pitust> i have latest mesa-asahi-edge (mesa-asahi-edge-23.3.0_pre20230904-2)

11:05 <j`ey> seems like there hasnt been any changes to ./drivers/gpu/drm/asahi/ for a bit

11:06 <pitust> hmm

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11:06 <pitust> how would one even debug this kind of breakage?

11:06 <j`ey> https://oftc.irclog.whitequark.org/asahi-dev/2023-12-20#32762428;

11:07 <j`ey> but didnt say what the actual issue is there

11:07 <pitust> i see

11:07 <pitust> does mesa come with some test tools?

11:08 <pitust> all i know is the renderer string "llvmpipe (LLVM 16.0.6, 128 bits)" which is not very helpful

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11:09 <pitust> oh, and the alarm package for it is out of date

11:09 <pitust> incredible

11:09 <j`ey> yes cos alarm isnt maintained as well

11:09 <j`ey> (as well as fedora)

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11:11 <pitust> what is LLVMSPIRVLib?

11:12 <j`ey> SPIR-V library for LLVM

11:12 <pitust> i see

11:12 <pitust> and why on earth does the build fail because its missing :^)

11:12 <j`ey> (SPIR V is some other IR thing)

11:13 <j`ey> there's a bunch of PRs in the PKGBUILD repo, for newer versions of things

11:13 <pitust> oh cool

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11:15 <pitust> okay, the pkgbuild is broken

11:15 <pitust> it's missing spirv-llvm-translator

11:15 <pitust> (as a dependency)

11:16 <janvhs> I habe some problems where my M2 get’s extremely hot during compiling software and uses as lot of power during sleep. Becomes especially obvious overnight. I don‘t find where I can report these problems, can someone guide me to a place?

11:16 <j`ey> I think markan should just deprecate alarm, and have that as a community distro, like the others are *shrug*

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11:21 <pitust> i just realized: its quite possible i built my kernel with gpu stuff off...

11:22 <pitust> since there is no backlight device present

11:22 <j`ey> theyre separate modules

11:22 <j`ey> DRM_ASAHI for GPU, and DRM_APPLE for display/backlight

11:22 <pitust> ah

11:22 <pitust> DRM_ASAHI=y DRM_APPLE=m

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11:24 <pitust> what else is out of date and needs updating, uboot?

11:25 <pitust> (as in dt changes)

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11:32 <pitust> ahhh [ 0.515548] apple-dcp 231c00000.dcp: error -ENODEV: Incompatible devicetree! Use devicetree matching this kernel.

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11:35 <pitust> okay now i built m1n1 1.4.11

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11:36 <pitust> is that what i need to build even

11:37 <pitust> or is it uboot

11:38 <j`ey> you also need to run update-m1n1, so that the dtbs are updated

11:39 <pitust> okay cool

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11:41 <pitust> still incompatible dt

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11:46 <pitust> okay, i figured out the fix

11:46 <pitust> i needed to install dtbs to /lib/modules/.../dtbs

11:47 <pitust> and patch update-m1n1 to look for a kernel ending with ARCH+ instead of ARCH

11:47 <pitust> i guess the + means its dirty? since i applied a patch to make sway like the touchbar more

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11:54 <pitust> okay i built speakersafetyd and i get this panic: thread 'main' panicked at 'Could not lock elem Left Front VSENSE Switch. alsa-lib error: Error("snd_ctl_elem_lock", ENOENT)', src/helpers.rs:172:13

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11:58 <j`ey> ah right, the latest kernel disabled speakers (due to the lsp-plugins fix being needed), you need to manually change that

11:58 <j`ey> see, for example, speakers/enablement-READ-COMMIT-MESSAGE

11:58 <leio> (and make sure lsp-plugins is patched)

12:00 <pitust> where is that?

12:00 <j`ey> my thing was in the kernel tree

12:00 <j`ey> 6a24102c06c95951ab992e2d41336cc6d4bfdf23

12:02 <pitust> i see

12:02 <pitust> so i need to apply the two commits at 6a24102c06c95951ab992e2d41336cc6d4bfdf23 and apply the lsp-plugins patch?

12:02 <j`ey> yeah

12:03 <pitust> cool

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12:07 <eiln> janvhs: macos gets hot compiling stuff too, we use the same fan firmware

12:08 <eiln> also we are aware sleep can be improved, it's being worked on

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12:13 <pitust> all right, i built the latest lsp-plugins which inclues the patch

12:18 <pitust> now i'm getting this: [ 1913.663825] snd-soc-macaudio sound: Speaker volumes locked: Lock timeout

12:28 <pitust> it's caused by running speaker-test

12:28 <pitust> no idea why

12:29 <chaos_princess> try looking for speakersafetyd messages in journal

12:34 <pitust> nothing

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12:50 <stintel> sounds like speakersafetyd is not running

12:52 <stintel> maybe you have an old version of speakersafetyd that still has the udev rule to start speakersafetyd on your hardware commented out

12:52 <stintel> or you're not using systemd in which case the udev rule wouldn't work

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13:06 <pitust> i built speakerafetyd from source

13:06 <pitust> and its definitely running

13:06 <pitust> source: i started it in a terminal and i can see its running

13:07 <j`ey> presumably that's why no messages in journal then

13:08 <pitust> and nothing on stdout either

13:08 <stintel> sorry I didn't read backlog - but since fedora is now default, probably better to continue this in #asahi-alt ?

13:09 <chaos_princess> pitust: how are you starting it

13:10 <pitust> sudo /usr/bin/speakersafetyd -c /usr/share/speakersafetyd/ -b /var/lib/speakersafetyd/blackbox -m 7

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13:12 <pitust> linux unlocks the speakers, and then relocks them if i use speaker-test or play any audio in general

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16:08 <cekekli> hi i'm new here, i have installed asahi fedora kde today and I would like to try https://github.com/rbreaves/kinto. Is there anyone who uses this?

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16:43 <marcan> pitust: your ALSA routes are probably wrong. this is handled by UCM if you use pipewire, and you should be using pipewire.

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17:31 <ydalton> the asahi driver is not a modesetting driver?

17:32 <j`ey> the asahi driver is a GPU driver, not a display driver

17:33 <ydalton> thought so, but i don't get why it has a cardX node

17:33 <j`ey> (check gpu/drm/apple/ for the modesetting part)

17:33 <ydalton> on my system, card0 is appledrm and card1 is asahi

17:37 <sven> it’s a render-only node

17:37 <sven> that’s how userspace talks to the kernel driver

17:37 <ydalton> isn't that what the renderD128 node is for?

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17:42 <marcan> it's complicated(TM)

17:42 <marcan> basically any render-only device still gets a cardX device

17:42 <ydalton> bruh

17:42 <ydalton> even if that cardX node is useless otherwise

17:42 <marcan> it's not useless, you can use it for rendering too

17:43 <chaos_princess> the answer is probably "x86 does it that way and everything is used to it being done x86 way and will break otherwise"

17:44 <ydalton> lovely, x86 monoculture strikes again

17:46 <ydalton> in x86 land, there's basically no distinction between the display controller and the gpu, they are part of the same entity

17:46 <ydalton> but in embedded devices the gpu is completely seperate from the display controller

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20:23 <leio> I found my second gcc bug on apple silicon, what do I win? :)

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20:32 <gfawcett> /help

20:32 <j`ey> leio: dont leave us hanging, got a bug report?

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20:33 <leio> not for the second one, just narrowed it down to the CPU feature flag triggering it

20:34 <leio> first one, sure, a minute

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20:36 <leio> https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=110901 leading to fun like https://bugs.gentoo.org/830165#c11 which reveals that if you don't pass BOTH -march and -mcpu=native in gentoo, or spell out -march=armv8-a+..., you aren't really getting any arch optimizations whatsoever above baseline aarch64

20:37 <j`ey> it;s funny seeing coworkers names on bug reports :P

20:37 <leio> second one is that some build tool compiled and used in qtwebengine build just segfaults with +pauth (so once you actually get it to take the -march)

20:39 <leio> no clue how widespread that problem is, I switched to clang from the near start, just now was asked to test qtwebengine with gcc too before ~arm64'ing it

20:41 <leio> but at this point I need to nerdsnipe someone into investigating further *g

20:42 <j`ey> qtwebengine probably has some hand rolled asm

20:42 <leio> it's a tiny build tool that crashes as part of the build process

20:43 <j`ey> ok that's weird :)

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20:44 <leio> bytecode_builtins_list_generator and gen-regexp-special-case

20:44 <Tramtrist> been a while.. does the Asahi installer allow us to create a /home partition manually or is it all or nothing / out of the box?

20:45 <j`ey> leio: can you see what instruction it fails on?

20:45 <leio> gdb has all corrupted stack, it's pointer authentication extension stuff

20:46 <j`ey> Tramtrist: yup just one partition for now

20:46 <Tramtrist> On second thought if I go down that road Ill probably go luks and do the volume groups etc

20:47 <Tramtrist> thanks j`ey

20:47 <as400> Tramtrist: you get one btrfs subvolume for root and a second one for home

20:48 <leio> I made a /home after the fact in front of it via letting the installer after initial install free up some space and take from there manually (caring for some partition numbers)

20:48 <Tramtrist> lsblk

20:48 <Tramtrist> oops haha

20:48 <as400> these are not partitions but you still have btrfs quota

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21:48 <janneg> Tramtrist: if you manually resize the macos partition to the free up as much space as you want, you can select a much smaller size for the os and use the remaining free space to create your home partition (if you feel comfortable enough to that and linux setup for that manually)

21:49 <leio> j`ey: I filed https://bugs.gentoo.org/920555 to start with on the second

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22:50 <Tramtrist> thanks janneg .. I feel comfortable doing it though need to consider

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