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<alicejustplaying>
I've been trying out Asahi Linux on my 14" M1 Pro (both the KDE and the Gnome variety) and noticed that the colors on the built-in display are oversaturated compared to whatever's default on macOS, is there any way to tweak that right now?
<holiday>
alicejustplaying: lower the brightness? ik it sounds like a troll response but when i want more satured colors i just bump the brightness to max
<alicejustplaying>
I was at like 30-40% brightness
<alicejustplaying>
the colors are 100% different, a friend with the exact same computer also comfirms it
<holiday>
ohh not sure then, i always liked the color on the default installation :P we'll have to wait for a response then
<alicejustplaying>
also since Chrome runs on XWayland, is it possible to fix the colors at least within Chrome?
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<marcan>
alicejustplaying: not until Wayland supports color management like macOS, and I don't think XWayland will help you there.
<marcan>
this needs compositor level support
<alicejustplaying>
since Gnome is also running under Wayland I'm assuming the issue is the same?
<marcan>
yes
<alicejustplaying>
Do you know what exactly is happening? Like, what goes exactly wrong right now that makes things oversaturated
<marcan>
it is possible to get the display controller to display sRGB, but there's no particular way to force that in the driver right now without hacking the code, and given how picky DCP is about colorspaces I'm reluctant to start adding options like that until we understand it better
<marcan>
nothing goes wrong
<marcan>
the desktop is simply colorspace-unaware
<marcan>
most people assume sRGB while Mac monitors have Display P3 colorspaces
<marcan>
something designed for sRGB naively displayed on a P3 display will naturally look oversaturated
<alicejustplaying>
right
<alicejustplaying>
will make note to check things out once Plasma 6 is out
<marcan>
on a hypothetical compositor with color management, loading a Display P3 profile would give correct color
<marcan>
yeah, it's being worked on :)
<j`ey>
I dont think plasma 6 will have it either
<marcan>
pretty sure it will at some point
<marcan>
it's in the works
<j`ey>
well 6.x sure, I meant 6.0 :P
<alicejustplaying>
right
<marcan>
sure :p
<alicejustplaying>
if I somehow switched back to X11, I assume I could get correct colors but a whole lot else would be broken, right
<marcan>
you'd still have to set up color management, it doesn't magically work
<alicejustplaying>
yeah no that bit i know
<marcan>
I've never tried it on X but yeah, expect tearing and a flickering cursor and worse performance and more things breaking in the future
<marcan>
the support mentioned there is enough for what you want, i.e. forcing everything to sRGB
<alicejustplaying>
can I just install plasma 6 beta for that?
<marcan>
you need Fedora Rawhide for that but if you really like living on the edge... (we make zero promises about rawhide, it gets approximately no testing right now)
<alicejustplaying>
right, lots of dragons
<marcan>
I'll start testing it more soon since we want Plasma 6 to be solid by the time F40 is released
<marcan>
j`ey: so yeah, the first release of Plasma 6 will indeed have enough color management for this problem
<j`ey>
:o
<j`ey>
neat
<marcan>
(just probably not actual support for color managed apps with more-than-sRGB colorspaces)
<alicejustplaying>
marcan: do you mean things like, image editors, or?
<marcan>
and video players, etc
<alicejustplaying>
right
<alicejustplaying>
if i can just get srgb everywhere on my m1 pro i'll already be happy :)
<marcan>
the F40 branch is scheduled for early February; by then we should be testing and I'll probably start running it myself, so I'd be more comfortable with people running it by then
<marcan>
and then April is release
<marcan>
so just a few months left before you can more safely get what you want :)
<alicejustplaying>
great, thanks
<j`ey>
so KWin could use a P3 profile?
<j`ey>
and it would adjust sRGB to P3?
<marcan>
yes
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<janneg>
I plan to get a spectrometer soon
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<janneg>
and planning to start testing plasma 6 in january
<j`ey>
wow, that sounds cool, you'll have to show that off
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<kidplayer666>
now that we are talking about colour management
<kidplayer666>
why the hell do transparent objects make everything behind it extra saturated
<kidplayer666>
as in KDE panels and such
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<chadmed>
im unmasking plasma 6 on the 15" air tomorrow. will report back on whats broken
<chadmed>
until we support overlay planes in DCP i dont think it really matters that its srgb only for now
<opticron>
yeah, there it does look like saturation
<opticron>
probably using the wrong blending mode...
<kidplayer666>
yep....
<kidplayer666>
any way to change it?
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<opticron>
no idea!
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<kidplayer666>
uhhhhh after trying to wake up from sleep, the computer was not able to do so and needed a hard reset. this is what is on the problem reporting applet on KDE https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/Pl4AtfOp/
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<leio>
give it some coffee? :)
<tdr>
kidplayer666, looks fun: proprietary module + kernel running on an out of specification system
<j`ey>
kidplayer666: are you running any out of tree modules? that seems weird!
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<kidplayer666>
Nope
<kidplayer666>
Running the most basic kernel possible
<j`ey>
odd
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<janneg>
the taint is due to the out of spec vgic, see f6c3e24fb721dda247f6691c809d6e6c413f22c7
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<ydalton>
yeah my kernel was tainted for a while, but it never caused problems
<j`ey>
janneg: but thats for the 'S' taint, not G
<ydalton>
G taint is normal?
<ydalton>
if it was proprietary it would be P no?
<j`ey>
ah right
<ydalton>
why was that taint brought in the first place?
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<kidplayer666>
No idea, it was weird
<j`ey>
the S taint is expected, and so is the G it seems, that seems to be the 'OK' case
<j`ey>
kidplayer666: so if you want to provide info, journalctl -b -1 will help, if was the previous boot, or you can try -2 etc
<ydalton>
i'm guessing it knows that there was a problem but it checked the taint value and said "the kernel devs can't help you with this"
<j`ey>
I thought there was some talk of only tainting the kernel if you actually ran a VM, not during init
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<j`ey>
I cant remember if irq numbers are deterministic, if so, 98 == pasemi_apple_i2c
<kidplayer666>
what?
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<j`ey>
linux has irq numbers and hardware irq numbers, not sure if the mapping is always the same
<kidplayer666>
oh ok
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<kidplayer666>
just remembered an important detail: there was a weird boot that apparently failed after the wake failure
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<ydalton>
i forgot to mention: i reinstalled asahi, a lot of the bugs i had when i moved kde disappeared, and it doesn't get randomly hot! battery is still not as good as i remember it being, but it could be due to the fact i've been watching more youtube now
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