<Begasus>
k, that worked, now only apply it for secondaryArchSuffix
<Begasus>
weird, build for primary and secondary (exr-translator) on 32bit, when installed the primary one replaces the sytem one, the secondary doesn't replace the system one (paths are good for both)
<jmairboeck>
I think it is quite random which files are visible from which package if there are conflicts. I think it would be better to explicitly add the system one the blocklist to test this.
<Begasus>
ah right, the system one is still linked to the older EXR
<Begasus>
bugger ...
<Begasus>
hmm .. doesn't explain why it works here on 64bit?
<Begasus>
the system one on 64bit is also still on older EXR
<Begasus>
nothing pops up in syslog
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<Begasus>
getting even more complicated :P
<Begasus>
primary on 32bit is 2.2.* secondary 2.4.*
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<Anarchos>
hello
<Begasus>
hi Anarchos
<Begasus>
k, not even the one build with 2.4 replaces the x86 one
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<BrunoSpr>
Hi all, is LUA kind of JavaScript?
<phschafft>
no?
<Begasus>
don't think it can be compared to that
<BrunoSpr>
Looks to me like it, but not tested it! Thanks!
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<OscarL>
Morning guys.
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<OscarL>
BrunoSpr: while Lua and JavaScript are scripting/interpreted languages, similarities kinda end there. Both have pretty different syntax and other defining characteristics.
<Begasus>
Hi OscarL!
<OscarL>
Good day Begasus!
<Begasus>
k, same thing on a nightly with this translator
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<OscarL>
Are you sure you can have gcc13 translators at all? aren those like the addons for Tracker? only gcc2 ones supported on 32 bits?
<OscarL>
If Tracker can't load both gcc2 and gcc13 addons... I wouldn't be surprised if DataTranslations couldn't either.
<OscarL>
I see. Guess Tracker case is special because there's no "GCC13 Tracker"... but gcc13 apps may want to use Translators (and yeah... that means having gcc13 addons).
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* OscarL
haven't had his coffee yet, so brain's slower than usual.
<OscarL>
that last screenie shows your x86 EXRTranslator "replacing" the system one correctly, no?
<OscarL>
err...no. sorry.
<OscarL>
misread :-D
<Begasus>
the primary one is replaced (check dates)
<Begasus>
secondary one isn't replaced
<OscarL>
yeah.... no idea what rules packagefs follows when deciding what files "goes on top" when multiple packages provide the same file.
<Begasus>
checked with another add-on that's in the depot
<Begasus>
that worked
<Begasus>
but it's a new one, so no replacement
<OscarL>
(I think in those cases it should at the very least, log something into syslog)
<Begasus>
nothing pops up
<Begasus>
aside from (de)activating ...
<OscarL>
I mean... "should" as in... it would be nice if it did, but currently doesn't.
<Begasus>
right
<Begasus>
did a check here on a nightly in qemu, same thing
<OscarL>
at least it is consistent :-)
<Begasus>
sometimes qemu loses focus on keyboard it seems :/
<OscarL>
So... according to korli's comment... rule should be "newer file 'overrides' older one". I guess it is the most sensible (or intuitive) choice.
<OscarL>
but clearly not working on your case :-/
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<Begasus>
primary one from the translators package, secondary one from Haiku's (x86) hpkg?
<Begasus>
OscarL, it does overrule for primary
<OscarL>
phschafft: does half-remembering arc4random(), rdrand instruction, and something about Mersenne twisters count?
<phschafft>
kind of.
<OscarL>
Begasus: quite annoying.
<OscarL>
Not sure what else you could compare it to, except maybe create "out of tree" packages for the simplest Translator you can find, and see if it acts the same?
<Begasus>
yeah, was happy enough to get them packaged for both arch's on 32bit
<OscarL>
"simplest Translator" (from the ones that Haiku ships, I mean)
<Begasus>
checked iff_ilbm_translator
<Begasus>
that installs fine on both arch's
<Begasus>
ah :)
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<Begasus>
don't know what else I could do, even tried building it with 2.4 on secondary
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<OscarL>
try making test packages for BMPTranslator (seems to have no dependencies), and see if it also fails to override the x86 translator?
<Begasus>
nothing in haikuports for that?
<OscarL>
would serve at least to get data for a bug report :-)
<OscarL>
Begasus: I mean... take the one from Haiku, add a makefile and .recipe of your own.
<OscarL>
nothing fancy... just to test it.
<Begasus>
brain is too distracted atm
<OscarL>
(because I can't think of another package that would override Haiku provided files on both gcc2/gcc13)
<Begasus>
think the haiku_x86-hrev... can't be over ruled maybe
<OscarL>
or your translator packages are loaded after haiku-*.hpkg, but before haiku_x86-*.hpkg (and then assuming that the last being loaded takes precedence).
<OscarL>
no idea really, sorry.
<Begasus>
ow bugger
<OscarL>
I don't follow korli's last comment. if system package is preferred, it the gcc2 translator shouldn't be "overriden" then.
<Begasus>
that's in datatranslator package, not Haiku's package
<OscarL>
I mean the SYS:PACKAGE attribute
<OscarL>
isn't that what korli means by "the haiku package is marked system"
<Begasus>
haiku_x86
<OscarL>
in any case... unless I boot into 32 bits to test things... I better shutup :-)
<Begasus>
nothing fancy (diff) in either translator package or haiku_x86 in attributes
<Begasus>
pkgman uninstall haiku_x86 ...
<Begasus>
:P
<Begasus>
k, Haiku IS x86 on 32bit (no primary package)
<Begasus>
so the primary translators are additional
<OscarL>
still not updated Beezer on my 32 bits install :-.
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<PetePete>
Does anyone know how to become moderator of an irc channel on oftc? I registered the channel successfully but I cannot find documentation on what to do next
<OscarL>
PetePete: ask on the #oftc channel?
<OscarL>
that's what I get on the server messages upon connecting: "If you require assistance with using the OFTC IRC network, stop by in channel #oftc, or email support@oftc.net"
<PetePete>
will do
<PetePete>
well that was easy
<PetePete>
thanks OscarL
<OscarL>
np :-)
<Begasus>
"/chanserv op #channel_name"
<Begasus>
iirc :)
<PetePete>
If IRC...
<PetePete>
I see what you did, there.
<Begasus>
heh
<Begasus>
k, pushed the locale files to the repo
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