<OscarL>
Something's wrong with ActivityMonitor's CPU Speed graph. The one on the "normal" window, works correctly, but the one from the replican view gives bad readings.
<OscarL>
This Atom N450 does not has working cpu frecuency scalling driver, so it is stuck at 1.66 GHz (+/- a few MHz due to clock spread-spectrum and such).
<OscarL>
but on the replicant graph.... CPU speed values go as low as 1200 MHz, which is not right.
<OscarL>
This explains why I thought I somehow had working CPU frequency scalling on a Celeron N4020 CPU (despite the lack of CPU freq scallind driver there too)... turns out it is just bogus ActivityMonitor replicant :-(
<OscarL>
From where is it getting the wrong data, though?
<OscarL>
*correction: the Celeron N4020 *does* uses inte_pstates, the other CPU that does not, but shows this error is the Atom N2600.
<OscarL>
Weird... starting the ScreenSaver makes the CPU freq graph on the main ActivityMonitor to show lower values. WAT?
<OscarL>
Bug doesn't presents on VBox, nor in my Phenom II X4 bare metal (AFAICT).
<botifico>
[haiku/website] humdingerb 0208c5c - Get Haiku: fix links
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<Begasus>
g'morning peeps
<OscarL>
hello Begasus :-)
<Begasus>
Hi OscarL! :)
<Begasus>
this latest Dolphin turns out to be pretty nice :)
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<OscarL>
Saw on the logs a couple of interesting screens you shared about it :-)
<Begasus>
still one anoying thing with split pannel and konsole, but haven't tracked that down :)
<OscarL>
My main mouse died earlier today :-( (PS/2, ball one). Had to replace it with a third-hand optical one, after attempts at repairing the ball one failed :-(
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<Begasus>
rip poor mouse :)
<Begasus>
the main one here needs replacing also, doesn't scroll anymore
<OscarL>
Yeah... it will be missed :-/. So far I haven't been able to get accustomed to non balled mice. We'll see how it goes with this one. (had to change its cable to make it work :-D)
<OscarL>
(bbiab, testing something on the other netbook)
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<OscarL>
There, enough new tickets for one day :-)
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<OscarL>
Bah. Concourse builds keep failing.
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<Begasus>
slap it :)
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<OscarL>
Seems 64 bits one worked this time, 32 bit one didn't. (for beta5)
* OscarL
updates to +104
<OscarL>
pfff, keep getting media_addon_server crashes on boot :-)
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<Begasus>
+104?
<Begasus>
ah, checked earlier, didn't show then :)
<Begasus>
biab
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<nephele>
in my xmpp chat backlog there was a discussion for 2fa github xD
<Begasus>
let's keep it there :P
<nephele>
Begasus: eh, dunno. doesn'
<nephele>
t seem that interesting to read :)
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<nephele>
hmmm, was haikuwebkit now fixed on 32bit? that would remove the download blocker
<nephele>
Begasus: gotta say though regarding gh, i really don't enjoy looking up anything on it. It's so darn slow in webpositive, and the commit view needs pagination often, and that is also slow :/
<nephele>
checking if a new haikuwebkit build was commited is annoying there
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<Begasus>
it's pretty good now in WebP
<Begasus>
on beta4 Falkon was nr1 browser, WebPositive 2, on beta5 is other way and WebPositive nr1 browser
<Begasus>
although I'm pretty happy to have konqueror around too :D
<nephele>
we didn't change that much in webpositive, did falkon regress? :P
<Begasus>
qtwebenging overrall on beta5 (my impression, even before the qtwebengine update)
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<nephele>
i tried some stuff against gnome web in comparison, but it works badly usually. sometimes it manages stuff webpositive doesn't
<nephele>
on linux on my arm macbook gnome web works great, just that linux has no clue how to scale applications. other than literally just drawing stuff twice the size .-.
<nephele>
bbib
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<Begasus>
bbl
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<hsp>
Is it possible to change the background color of the desktop applet Workspaces? I can't find anything
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<Begasus>
back home :)
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<Begasus>
hsp bacground color for workspaces is the same as you default Desktop background color
<hsp>
thx
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<hsp>
I'm slowly finding my way around Hauku :)
<hsp>
*Haiku
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<Begasus>
+1 hsp :)
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<hsp>
copy & paste is another thing, with Ctrl it doesn't work with Haiku. Alt everywhere
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<waddlesplash>
hsp: read the Quick Tour. you can swap the shortcut keys in Keymap preferences
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<hsp>
I think I should do that sometime. But German would be better. My English is not the best
<Begasus>
there should be an uptodate version for the userguide hsp
<Skipp_OSX>
We're still waiting on #18880 on 32-bit, the webkit package to be rebuilt which has run into issues. The semi-official announcement of r1b5 has spurred a number of tickets to be filed in response and we're trying to knock them out as fast as possible before release. We're really close now but not quite there yet.
<hsp>
Keep calm, ready when ready :)
<Skipp_OSX>
#18624 has to be fixed and a test case added to prevent the bug from returning. We've got some virtio fixes in progress for #18717. #18451 is a bit tricky will probably get bumped but there is some progress with people talking about replacing our horde allocator but that won't make it to r1b5.
<Skipp_OSX>
#18593 has been mitigated we're probably going to go with the single cpu on qemu for r1b5
<Skipp_OSX>
#7930 seems pretty pedantic I don't think it should be in r1b5 milestone but it is, installer needs some work but that shouldn't hold up release.
<Skipp_OSX>
and then #19067 I thought was fixed but got reopened, we only fixed half of it, darn.
<hsp>
Is it actually possible to use desktop files to start programs/scripts as usual with Linux?
<hsp>
If so, is there an example somewhere?
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<Begasus>
'lo humdinger!
<humdinger>
hullo!
<nosycat>
Hi!
* humdinger
waves all around
<nosycat>
What's new?
<humdinger>
nothing much...
<humdinger>
everyone's still waiting for beta5 I guess.
<nosycat>
Big mood.
<humdinger>
Still looking for people to finish translations for QuickLaunch BTW
<humdinger>
hsp: I'm not familiar with Linux desktop files, but you can create links to apps on the desktop (or LaunchBox etc.) or create small bash scripts when needed.
<yann64[m]>
<Begasus> "yann64, are you managing the..." <- hi Begasus ! lack of time on my side unfortunately, still need to create that x86 VM to test my modified PR
<botifico>
[haikuports/haikuports] jmairboeck 32a03bb - xpdf: switch to libpaper 2
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<Begasus>
OK, no harm in waiting for it yann64[m] then :)
<jmairboeck>
Begasus: I noticed that xpdf could be built with Qt6 too, alternatively. I didn't check it (just wanted to rebuild it for libpaper), but should we in general switch apps to Qt 6 now if possible?
<jmairboeck>
currently it uses Qt 5
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<mmlr>
kallisti5[m]: is it possible that the buildmaster IP changed?
<Begasus>
jmairboeck, one benifit for swithing to Qt6 is less dependencies
<Begasus>
biab
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<Begasus>
jmairboeck, you could check building it on a clean image in qemu or so :)
<Begasus>
but other then that, no real reason to switch atm
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* humdinger
waves
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<yann64[m]>
OK, never mind. At least my x86_gcc2 VM is working and Falkon/NextCloud are nice to have for its intent. I will look into my PR in the coming week. Will close for tonight :)
<yann64[m]>
See you
<Begasus>
thanks!
<Begasus>
closing down here too, cu peeps!
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<Anarchos>
jmairboeck hello
<jmairboeck>
Hi Anarchos, I just wanted to turn the computer off for today.
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<nekobot>
[haiku/haiku] 0d71a44091b9 - mixer: Also delay starting the mixer until the realTime is recent.
<Skipp_OSX>
hash_hash_string? ok
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<HaikuUser>
Hello friends, I am about to start my Haiku journey. I'd like to disable Javascript in the WebPositive browser. Is it possible?
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<oanderso[m]>
milek7: I still have limited internet but I uploaded diffs that address most of your feedback. I still need to think through the SWDIRTY handling. Is that meant to be the same as SWDBM?
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<kallisti5[m]>
<mmlr> "kallisti5: is it possible that..." <- yeah. They're just kubernetes nodes. They can rotate source ip's (no cloudnat, etc)
<Coldfirex>
9 dogs?! Sounds like your place is a circus most of the time
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<Anarchos>
Does anybody have latex installed ?
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<jhj>
Coldfirex: I have six cats here. Three of them are invisible 23 hours a day, one is velcro'd to me 23 hours a day. Two are normal.
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<milek7>
oanderso[m]: SWDBM is equivalent to DBM
<milek7>
meaning that page is writeable and AP2 can be cleared on fault
<milek7>
AP2 doubles as not-dirty bit then
<milek7>
I'm not really sure if SWDBM needs to be separate from DBM, but technically DBM is RES0 when not supported by hardware, so I did it separate to be on safe side
<milek7>
and SWDIRTY was about: what if writeable page is remapped to read-only
<milek7>
then dirty state is lost (because it was stored in AP2, but that needs to be set now)