<Skipp_OSX>
testing fix for #19068 by making those use document color instead of list, and I made my list dark and my list selection color purple to see the difference
<Skipp_OSX>
I can get an error window but I don't think that's the one I'm looking for
<waddlesplash>
yeah, that could stand to be fixed :)
<waddlesplash>
well, maybe it's just the borders being different then
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<waddlesplash>
we really need to get borders fixed in HidPI
<waddlesplash>
I introduced B_*_BORDER_SPACING for this but still have not gotten around to refactoring BControlLook to use it rather than hardcoding 1
<janking>
good morning
<waddlesplash>
oh, by the way, when I was working on Appearance color tinting, I ported tint_color to JavaScript for easy testing of color tints
<Skipp_OSX>
radio buttons on non-panel colors... heresy.
<Begasus>
ah :D
<OscarL>
hello Begasus! Looking at minidlna now. Got it to build properly. Do you remember why it has been disable almost since the .bep -> .recipe conversion ?
<Begasus>
nothing in the history at github OscarL, been a loooong time since I looked at it :)
<Begasus>
+?*
<OscarL>
I like how well ssh/sftp on the LAN is working (after settings up for password-less operation). Once I install/setup mDNSResponder on all machines/installs... things will be even easier :-)
<OscarL>
"minidlna.c:669: error: Media directory /opt not accessible [No such file or directory]" <<< guess minidlna could use some more patching.
<Begasus>
knock yourself out, it's more something you are able to test :)
<Begasus>
need a revbump for neochat
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<OscarL>
Seems "/opt" only appears on the default "minidlna.conf" file. Quick-and-dirty fix for now... switch that to /home.
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<janking>
hi!
<OscarL>
hello.
<OscarL>
Mmmm: "minidlna.c:669: error: Media directory /home not accessible [No such file or directory]" WAT?
<OscarL>
mmm, if I remove "devel:libcurl" from the minidlna recipe, ./configure fails to find libid3tag. WAT?
<Begasus>
heh
<OscarL>
got it to build without any traces of openssl (libssl/libcrypto).
<OscarL>
not sure why those deps were there. added a comment on #10865
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<OscarL>
Got a segment violation on PathMonitor.cpp. Had a TextSearch window open, and ran "haikuporter -c", that removed the dirs TextSearch was watching.
<Begasus>
my delete button in WebPositive/gmail doesn't seem to work?
<Begasus>
restarted, clicked a few times before it did the trick :)
<botifico>
[haikuports/haikuports] kwyxz 1dc3557 - fixed additional cores other than vice_x64 (#11057)
<Begasus>
OscarL, don't do TAT! :)
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<OscarL>
:-D (First time that action causes a crash for me)
<Begasus>
happened here a few times already
<OscarL>
did you reported it already?
<Begasus>
running TextSearch when a build is running for instance
<Begasus>
not reported, not easy to reproduce :)
* phschafft
looks left and right, checking for nephele. Once confirmed the sugar-police is not around he quickly refills the cookie bowl.
<OscarL>
Begasus: indeed but... if you get a .report, and a general "it happens sometimes while doing *this*", might be good enough.
<hsp>
pkgman uninstall does not remove the dependencies of packages that have been installed on a trial basis. Is this normal?
<Begasus>
thank you sir! was waiting for my coffee cookie :D
<Begasus>
yes hsp
<phschafft>
:))
<OscarL>
mmm, "/bin/nm -C -l" surely slows things down *a lot*.
<Begasus>
no clue what it does OscarL :)
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<hsp>
Begasus, and how do you get rid of them?
<OscarL>
trying to "update" the good old "lgrep()".
<Begasus>
uninstall them?
<hsp>
No idea which ones they are
<Begasus>
I always have my /system/packages sorted on newest date
<Begasus>
that mostly gives me some indecation on what installed lately
<OscarL>
Begasus: as "nm -h" says that "--defined-only" is ignored. I was just trying different combinations of things, and -l (--line-numbers) makes it unusable.
<Begasus>
heh
<OscarL>
due to big libs like libllvm*.so
<Begasus>
hsp, depending on what the package is, and some requirements are also used by other packages ...
<OscarL>
also... it complains it can't read DWARF version 4, only version 2.
<hsp>
weak performance from pkgman
<Begasus>
can sometimes be slow in response (same with HaikuDepot)
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<OscarL>
sometimes it just "hangs" (today it hang for me even before doing the "refresh" repos data).
<hsp>
Is there any way to display the dependencies?
<OscarL>
(had to CTRL+C, worked right away after running it again)
<hsp>
Begasus, Is there any way to display the dependencies?
<OscarL>
For what you want, nothing that current pkgman provides. It doesn't keeps track of packages installed due to dependencies.
<OscarL>
there are a couple of scripts that *might* help...
<Begasus>
only way atm is to check the recipe I guess?
<OscarL>
among the packages you have installed, at least.
<Begasus>
bah, I already knew that! :P
<Begasus>
inrecipe works well enough on that front :)
<Habbie>
Begasus, morning! sorry about the noise :)
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<OscarL>
pkgman is way faster for this, but yeah, inrecipe is handy too.
<OscarL>
Begasus: I now have a "ginrecipe" that uses "git grep" instead of find. I like it because it only shows recipes actually in-tree, and not other garbage I might have around :-D
<Begasus>
ah, so like for neochat I now have 9 reicpes, only the 23.* version is intree (at haikuports)
<Begasus>
so it wouldn't include the others?
<OscarL>
right
<Begasus>
could be handy, although I still like to include those here when searching
<Begasus>
even got one "inrecipekde" for a backup from an older repo
<OscarL>
Begasus: that's why I have *both* "ir" and "gir" aliases now :-)
<Begasus>
+1 :)
<Begasus>
now wat whas I doing? ;)
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<Begasus>
ah php7, looks like Debian uses static ssl library (crypto) for that
<Begasus>
Gentoo doesn't provide it anymore
<gordonjcp>
do people even do ssl "directly" any more?
<Begasus>
no idea gordonjcp :)
<OscarL>
as in... not by using libssl.so/libcrypto.so?
<Begasus>
nothing intree uses cmd:ssl
<gordonjcp>
OscarL: well you'd stick everything behind a proxy these days
<Begasus>
ah, it's cmd:openssl
<gordonjcp>
let that cope with terminating SSL or TLS
<OscarL>
FWIW, there are at least 220 hits for "lib:libssl" on HaikuPorts.
<OscarL>
some packages show for different versions, so... say... around 200 packages that need libssl.so.
<Begasus>
hunt down lib:libcrypto also :)
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<OscarL>
Begasus: 197 total hits (including the ones from the openssl recipes.
<OscarL>
you might have one more than I. I removed it from minidlna :-P
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<Begasus>
k, libgit2 needs to wait untill buildmasters are updated, a few more that are obsolete or won't build left
<Begasus>
a local rebuild for tuxmath crashed here, dropped hunting the issue down
<Begasus>
maybe tackle mysql? :P
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<janking>
hi
<Begasus>
janking, third time "hi"?
<janking>
:)
<OscarL>
Begasus: found at least one issue with that "download_hpkg", you need to first install cmd:jq :-D
<Begasus>
OscarL, no changes :P
<OscarL>
yeah, that was *one* of the issues, I'll update the bpa.st
<Begasus>
thnx :)
<Begasus>
pulled mysql 9.0.1 ...
<OscarL>
Begasus: please try with this one: https://bpa.st/raw/YMYUW (and then: "download_hpkg csound", for example, or "csound_x86" if in 32 bits)
<OscarL>
(worked here on 32 bits at least :-D)
<Begasus>
+1 works now :)
<Begasus>
could be handy!
<Begasus>
could a local uri be used there instead of the one from the depot? ;)
<OscarL>
I aske that on the past on the forum, because I want a "LAN cache proxy" for .hpkg updates... was not much productive.
<OscarL>
but augiedoggie gave me some pointers not long ago (albeit I haven't yet tried them).
<Begasus>
ok, for now good enough :)
<OscarL>
one could setup a "local" repository, and point pkgman to that instead of HaikuPorts, I guess, but to make it more transparent, I guess one needs to use a proper caching proxy... squid or something like that.
<OscarL>
once I get my "server" (one of my old netbooks without screen) working properly... I'll give that a try.
<Begasus>
multiple "rpc.h" files on the system ... mysql is confused I think :)
<OscarL>
that should be the one from libevent under event2/rpc.h, right?
<OscarL>
(only public rpc.h I have here at least under develop/headers)
<Begasus>
need the one from tirpc :)
<OscarL>
add "devel:libcurl", it might magically fix things like in minidlna! (damn thing keep failing to find libi3dtag without libcurl, LOL!)
<OscarL>
I can't see why it gets confused :-(
<Begasus>
no recipe, just doing a check in Terminal
<OscarL>
I should too do more initial builds outside of haikuporter, and save me some troubles :-)
<Begasus>
hence why I do this :)
<OscarL>
mmm, comparing "configure.log" files... the one without libcurl somehow ends with "exec_prefix='NONE'", while the working one has "exec_prefix='$(prefix)'".
<Begasus>
first succes :) -- Build files have been written to: /Opslag/wip/mysql-9.0.1/build
* OscarL
hates autotools
<Begasus>
config.log
<OscarL>
that one.
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<OscarL>
I have no clue why the conftest.c file it tries to link to libid3tag.so (as part of the ./configure step) only works if "devel:libcurl" is on the recipe.
<OscarL>
for the record, the resulting /bin/minidlna does not links to libcurl in any way, nor does libid3tag.
<Begasus>
no idea :)
<OscarL>
lgrep shows the function it wants ("id3_file_open") IS there in libid3tag. That's why I was fixing lgrep() :-P
<OscarL>
bloody config.log only saves the conftest.c file (and the "defines" used) when it fails, so I can't easily compare that way :-(
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<Begasus>
stupid recompile with -fPIC ...
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<Anarchos>
:)
<OscarL>
I give up :-D. Will leave devel:libcurl there, with a note about "WAT?" (but at least will remove it from the REQUIRES)
<Begasus>
;)
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<OscarL>
does access() always fails for directories in Haiku?
<OscarL>
damn minidlna is using it for directories.
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<phschafft>
3.163 File
<OscarL>
my bad.
<phschafft>
An object that can be written to, or read from, or both. A file has certain attributes, including access permissions and type. File types include regular file, character special file, block special file, FIFO special file, symbolic link, socket, >>>and directory<<<. Other types of files may be supported by the implementation.
<Begasus>
k, one down :)
<OscarL>
had a old .patchset messing things up :-D
<Begasus>
hunting down: error: could not convert '0' from 'int' to 'std::optional<_pthread_thread*>'
<phschafft>
also:
<phschafft>
3.128 Directory
<phschafft>
>>>A file<<< that contains directory entries. [...]
<phschafft>
but thank you for making me look that up. it's good to know that there is this definition in the standard.
<OscarL>
:-)
<OscarL>
8:00 AM here... no wonder I'm messing things up. Thanks phschafft :-)
<Begasus>
time for coffee :)
<erysdren>
so true
<erysdren>
6am here heh
<OscarL>
note to self... /bin/minidlnad likes to create many directories under $whatever_you_setup/Media directory.
<Begasus>
1PM here
<OscarL>
or not... damn it! I had those dirs from September 5... but 2022, LOL.
* OscarL
goes for that coffee.
* phschafft
just wrote some little code that generates HTML listings for character sets.
<OscarL>
Hi erysdren. BTW... this "minidlna" I'm toying with... guess matches one of those "server-ish software" you talked about earlier :-)
<erysdren>
what's dlna?
<OscarL>
mix of DLNA + UPnP... some sort of media file server.
<erysdren>
oh nice
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<OscarL>
some routers (with USB port) used to have something similar.
<OscarL>
and some TVs used to be able to play directly from that if on the same network.
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<OscarL>
LOL, started the "minidlnad" server... already got a client on the same network (neighbour's TV, I presume :-D)
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<erysdren>
heh, nice
<OscarL>
main router on the LAN also talks with this server :-)
<OscarL>
seems "functional" enough for me to open a PR :-P
<OscarL>
I should try to RickRoll them at some point :-D
<OscarL>
"<modelDescription>MiniDLNA on Haiku</modelDescription>" <<< nice.
<Begasus>
+1 OscarL!
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<OscarL>
:-) PR open, now some coffee, and then bed :-)
<Begasus>
stupid tirpc ... /Opslag/wip/mysql-9.0.1/build/plugin/group_replication/libmysqlgcs/xdr_gen/xcom_vp.h:9:10: fatal error: rpc/rpc.h: No such file or directory
<Begasus>
thanks, cu OscarL :)
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<Begasus>
dropping trying to build that bugger for now :) /Opslag/wip/mysql-9.0.1/router/src/harness/src/stdx/io/file_handle.cc:287:2: error: #error unsupported OS
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<OscarL>
should drop the old recipe, and let someone that want mysql really, really bad, deal with a new recipe.
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<OscarL>
I heard that all the cool kids use postgres, anyway :-)
<OscarL>
*postgresql
<Begasus>
tackled that already ;)
<phschafft>
there is just no reason not to use pq.
<phschafft>
It's like you get a trolley for 100 money units but you could also have that space ship that can also fly under water and fit in any parking lot for 99.99 money units.
<OscarL>
I only had to setup an SQL server once (can't even recall for what thing at the office). MySQL was a PITA, postgresql a breeze. And then all I've ever read matches phschafft's comment.
<OscarL>
cp-850, my old friend.
<Begasus>
k, checking one more in the list, then I'm done :P
<OscarL>
cool, 64 bits build of minidlna went fine :-)
<phschafft>
OscarL: only included it for reference.
<dovsienko>
OscarL: when I was deciding which one to learn (Postgres or MySQL) around 1999, for me at the time the deciding factor was that MySQL user privileges were entirely a matter of an internal SQL table, and in Postgres they were also a matter of the OS users and permissions
<OscarL>
phschafft: used 850 a lot on my DOS days :-)
<phschafft>
OscarL: I mean it was likely all you had.
<phschafft>
and we all wanted some nice drawing chracters and stuff.
<dovsienko>
I do not know if/when Postgres removed the local filesystem out of the problem space, but MySQL and subsequently MariaDB have worked well for me
<phschafft>
make batch jobs look real cool. ;)
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<phschafft>
dovsienko: I feel like that is more a missunderstanding. however I cannot tell you about 'the early days'.
<OscarL>
437 was default for most things, printers, etc, I had to setup 850 as needed.
<phschafft>
I've been with Postgres since like 2005, and it always had a proper way to have OS independent permissions.
<Habbie>
i used postgres in 1999, while it could use socket peer ids, the filesystem never came into it
<Habbie>
and most people misconfigured it to actually trust the username the client sent instead anyway
<phschafft>
yet it's so much nicer to just use system users as it makes it much easier to admin.
<Habbie>
it's a double edged sword
<Habbie>
system users do no good for shared hosting without per-vhost uids
<Habbie>
also nothing for users on other systems
<phschafft>
Habbie: naturally. but that is just one use cases. and I must say, if you provide hosting to others it's part of your job descriptiopn to know abput those things.
<Habbie>
absolutely
<phschafft>
my point is just that postgresql offered both since I'm using it.
<phschafft>
so you can use what you need.
<phschafft>
OscarL: hm.
<Habbie>
437 is what PCs had before codepages existed
<OscarL>
right
<Habbie>
850 was very popular once we had codepages though
<OscarL>
loved usint its box-drawing chars while doing dBase3+ forms :-D /me starting to feel the years piling up.
<Habbie>
850 keeps the lines for boxes :)
<OscarL>
*dBaseIII Plus
<Begasus>
k, dropping that one too :P
<phschafft>
my terminal supports MCS and SG. so I printed the table for them. just to find out that I have that Unicode support on top so I need the unicode code points to access the characters. ;)
<phschafft>
so I made my own list.
<Habbie>
hehe
<phschafft>
it's really hard to find a list that lists the characters for one character set while giving you the unicode code point! ;)
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<Coldfirex>
missed that dropdown for that. appreciate it
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<dovsienko>
is there a port with a simple Markdown editor/viewer that does not crash whilst destroying my file and does not upload the text to a 3rd-party web site?
<dovsienko>
(on Linux I tried a few with mixed experiences, hence the question)
<augiedoggie>
emacs :P
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<HaikuUser2>
hi
<augiedoggie>
hello
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<zdykstra>
dovsienko: which one(s) are crashing for you?
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<dovsienko>
zdykstra: I do not remember, but "ghostwriter" looks like one of those I tried and got disappointed
<dovsienko>
(on Linux)
<dovsienko>
never mind, I can get the job done using vim/Pe
<zdykstra>
that's what I was going to suggest if it's available for Haiku - it's worked well for me on Linux
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<waddlesplash>
don't we have CuteMarkEd or something like that?
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<DigitalBox98>
Testing :)
<DigitalBox98>
Has anyone alrady created a receipe to create a new package for Haiku ?
<dovsienko>
hmmmm, cutemarked does headers and lists fine, but hyperlinks and preformatted text are out of shape
<dovsienko>
one reason why Markdown is not a good format is that a Markdown specification does not exist, so one cannot reason about this or that piece of software not working according to the spec
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<dovsienko>
(the other, of course, being the messed up bold and italics)
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<nekobot>
[haiku/haiku] 3cbff9d88499 - BButton: Tint button background color lighter on dark
<waddlesplash>
Skipp_OSX: my checkbox text still looks misaligned
<waddlesplash>
after your change yesterday
<Skipp_OSX>
yeah they are, nothing changed there. I did set the alignment but it didn't make any difference.
<waddlesplash>
ah
<Skipp_OSX>
ok I'm struggling here because our colors are messed up and idk how to fix it.
<waddlesplash>
?
<Skipp_OSX>
we only use B_CONTROL_BACKGROUND_COLOR and TEXT_COLOR on buttons... which I guess is fine but we also tint the background of the button to match panel color, so what's the point?
<waddlesplash>
we do?
<waddlesplash>
lol
<waddlesplash>
shouldn't tabs also use CONTROL_BACKGROUND and TEXT?
<Skipp_OSX>
as far as I can tell... control colors are for the INSIDE of controls, panel for the outside, well actually should be view on the outside since not always panel.
<Skipp_OSX>
so for a button the control color is the inside the button, anything outside the button would be document or panel
<Skipp_OSX>
for checkbox and radio button it is for inside the checkbox or radio button, but the label is not control color
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<waddlesplash>
sounds like we should adjust the color defaults or just get rid of them entirely
<Skipp_OSX>
from previous code SetLowUIColor(B_CONTROL_BACKGROUND_COLOR, 1.115); becomes 2 - 1.115 = 0.885. 0.885 x 245 = 216.825 (close enough not really actually)
<Skipp_OSX>
but intended to be 216 which is panel background color which makes using control color here kind of silly
<waddlesplash>
when was CONTROL introduced and why?
<waddlesplash>
oh
<Skipp_OSX>
pre-Haiku, in BeOS somehow, don't know
<waddlesplash>
Skipp_OSX: is the untinted CONTROL color equivalent to the BeOS R5 button color?
<waddlesplash>
because BeOS definitely had lighter buttons
<Skipp_OSX>
yes probably 245
<waddlesplash>
well in that case, we should just change our CONTROL color to be the PANEL color
<waddlesplash>
and not tint it at all
<waddlesplash>
but leave it there so it can be customized
<oanderso[m]>
milek7: I’m AFK for several days but will look at it when I’m back. Thank you for reviewing them!
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<Anarchos>
is it normal to find many leaks in Haiku applications with leak_analyzer ?
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<Skipp_OSX>
BeOS buttons are 232 so a bit lighter than even control background
<phschafft>
even more colour discussions?...
<Skipp_OSX>
yeah, trying to button up bugs for r1b5
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<phschafft>
erysdren:
<phschafft>
upsi.
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<Skipp_OSX>
ok well you already merged so nvm
<Skipp_OSX>
my compromise solution was to only tint the button if view color was panel background color but in practice that doesn't matter we always use buttons on panel background color.
<nekobot>
[haiku/haiku] 20d9f6e4083b - packagefs: Use ClassCache for PackageSymlink too.
<nekobot>
[haiku/haiku] 5331db0abde3 - packagefs: PackageNode UID/GID are never actually set.
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<jmairboeck>
Anarchos: I split up all the tools from texlive_core which have a different "upstream" into separate packages, so if you need anything like that, you need to install them separately now.
<jmairboeck>
otherwise, nothing should have changed recently.
<Anarchos>
jmairboeck i have : latex warning: kpathsea: configuration file texmf.cnf not found in these directories: /packages/texlive_core-2024.2-1/.self/data/texlive/texmf-dist/web2c:/boot/system/non-packaged/data/texmf-dist/web2c:/boot/home/config/settings/texmf-dist/web2c.
<Anarchos>
but it is locatex in /boot/system/data/texmf-dist/web2c/texmf.cnf
<Anarchos>
please, don't translate function names in the scientific Deskcalc :)
<jmairboeck>
ah, it could be that it is confused by the /packages path, but if you have the current texlive_core installed that shouldn't be a problem. At least I thought that ...
<Anarchos>
jmairboeck i only have texlive_core, but maybe they are config files from older install ?
<jmairboeck>
I'll take a look this weekend if I can reproduce it an maybe fix it
<jmairboeck>
could be Anarchos
<Anarchos>
jmairboeck may i help you ?
<jmairboeck>
the copy in data/texlive is in the "texlive" base package
<jmairboeck>
the non-core one
<jmairboeck>
so if you are missing that, that will be a problem
<jmairboeck>
texlive_core only contains the binaries, no complete tex installation
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<Anarchos>
ok
<jmairboeck>
note that on 64 bit there is only the 2023 version available in the depot, because 2024 failed to build
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<jmairboeck>
I have to go now, I'll read the logs tomorrow, if you have any more problems. Good night!
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<Anarchos>
jmairboeck i installed texlive and texlive_core.
<Anarchos>
jmairboeck latex -interaction=batchmode -jobname=Student "\documentclass[fleqn]{article}\usepackage{amssymb,amsmath,bm,color}\usepackage[utf8]{inputenc}\begin{document}\pagestyle{empty}\mathindent0cm\parindent0cm a \end{document}"
<Anarchos>
jmairboeck still exhibits the problem
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<janking>
good night all.
<erysdren>
night
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