<countryboy>
10 PRINT "HELLO HAIKU FROM C64 BASIC"
<countryboy>
RUN
<countryboy>
HELLO HAIKU FROM C64 BASIC
<Scarecrow>
^C
<countryboy>
xD
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<julicenri>
Diver: Can't seem to get that working here yet. Only the initial PATCHES is being applied.
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<p10r[m]>
Hello! I'm a new Haiku user. Just flashed it on an old Acer Aspire One netbook, and everything except WiFi works wonderfully
<Diver>
julicenri: I think you should drop PATCHES and use PATCHES_01 instead
<p10r[m]>
But I wanted WiFi (router/Ethernet aren't very accessible for comfortable work), so tried latest nightly and a semi-random previous build 55476. But both nightly builds fail to load desktop
<p10r[m]>
Any suggestions?
<countryboy>
p10r[m]: i use eth cable ... but freedom ...
<julicenri>
Diver: Dropped PATCHES and used PATCHES_01 from the start. Unfortunately, none of the patchsets are being applied now.
<p10r[m]>
I would be able to use eth cable in my apartment, but am at parents' house and router is mounted on a wall at 10ft in the middle of stairs, because central location..
<p10r[m]>
Not very pleasant to work sitting on stairs :)
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<Diver>
julicenri: odd, this is how it's supposed to work
<p10r[m]>
WiFi is really kind of blocker for now, but I'm really really liking Haiku. This machine was crawling its deathbed on Win 7/8. Haiku is instant
<countryboy>
p10r[m]: use a wifi range extender => from wifi to eth
<p10r[m]>
I found some discord threads, but WiFi driver page link is returning 404
<julicenri>
Might consider just dropping the recipe and moving on to another program to package up.
<p10r[m]>
countryboy: Only other thing I have is my phone. I tried USB tethering but that didn't work either
<Begasus>
julicenri, how did you do it?
<julicenri>
Put patchsets in "patches" folder, then declared them individually in the recipe with PATCHES_01 and so on.
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<Begasus>
could you pastebin it somewhere? did you check the names etc?
<Begasus>
in the base package for libSDL there is no libSDL.so (that's only provided in the devel package)
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<countryboy>
return0e[m]: 0E10 = 0
<countryboy>
;-)
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<Begasus>
beaglejoe, A dependency graph could be very helpful. ... counting the amount of recipes that could be quite a list ;)
<beaglejoe>
Begasus: Yes, it might turn out to be a mess :)
<Begasus>
indeed °_0
<Begasus>
like updating for instance libSDL, tons of recipes depending on it and if soname changes they need a rebuild :)
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<beaglejoe>
On one of my Haiku installs, HaikuDepot lists Local under the Repositories tab. On another it does not. Is HaikuDepot supposed to show the packages from /home/haikuports/packages ?
<Begasus>
not the local ones afaik
<Begasus>
you could use pkgman of just double click them
<Begasus>
at least I haven't checked or saw them last time I looked ;)
<Begasus>
xaos removed BeOS support from version4 and up, need to grab the icon for the newer version ...
<Begasus>
beaglejoe, why both libSDL and libSDL2 in that PR?
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<beaglejoe>
Begasus, openscenegraph can use either (I think)
<beaglejoe>
Can you mark openscenegraph wit WIP. I just accidently committed with -ammend DOH! two m's
<Begasus>
;)
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<Begasus>
if you are looking for libSDL2 and made a fix (and it works ok) then just go for that, I don't know which one is prefered by it's build system
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<Begasus>
bbl
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<bparker_>
haven't tried those, just using MessageReceived() at the moment
<bparker_>
another strange thing is in the Be Book it says KEY_DOWN/UP are fired from the BView but on Haiku, it seems to be the BWindow (at least with MessageReceived, not sure about the hook functions)
<bparker_>
but I don't see any key or mouse messages in MessageReceived() from either the view or window on BeOS
<bparker_>
I kinda need to keep using MessageReceived() though because the hook functions don't return enough information for what I need
<bparker_>
MouseDown() for example can't even tell you which button is down
<bparker_>
you'd have to add extra code to check that state manually from the mouse
<bparker_>
surely I'm missing something simple like a flag or extra function call somewhere that turns this same functionality on under BeOS
<bparker_>
because the book describes both methods as valid
<countryboy>
i don't remember c++ and beos api no more : too difficult xD
<countryboy>
waiting yab without messages but with events ...
<countryboy>
i apologize 4 all xD
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<countryboy>
if you want : freedom !!!
<Skipp_OSX>
you could try B_WILL_ACCEPT_FIRST_CLICK
<Skipp_OSX>
(on the window)
<ffog>
is there anything like WindowShade in Haiku? like mac classic (and some others like xfce), option to 'roll up' a window into the title bar
<ffog>
instead of minimizing on double click, for instance
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<rennj>
i dont think so
<rennj>
fvwm window shade been using since 90's i used beos for like 5 years i dont recall it having the shade
<countryboy>
BView => BeOSView
<countryboy>
BWindow => BeOSWindow
<countryboy>
and so on ...
<countryboy>
;-)
<rennj>
countryboy, did you take your meds?
<countryboy>
xD
<rennj>
italia meds
<countryboy>
later medicinals ... xD
<rennj>
Agenzia Italiana del Farmaco
<Skipp_OSX>
not in Haiku but I remember seeing something like that on Zeta
<countryboy>
clozapina => for schizophrenia, but it's not true => everyone says it xD
<bparker_>
Skipp_OSX: doesn't seem to help :/
<ffog>
thanks, hmm i wonder how hard it would be to implement
<ffog>
or maybe it is against the haiku way of working, not sure
<rennj>
opentracker you could tile the background for dirs
<jenna16bit>
"hot launcher" why does every OS have to come up with a dock :)
<rennj>
nextstep/windowmaker i think or afterstep/wharf/dock
<andreasdr>
<3
<jenna16bit>
I mean, I've got an "after market" dock on pretty much all my systems that didn't come with that or a start bar.
<rennj>
i always like slayer vs processcontroler
<rennj>
haiku chose the latter
<bparker_>
I searched through some BeOS code and found an app that also handled B_MOUSE events in MessageReceived, except it did so by calling MessageReceived(Window()->CurrentMessage()); from each hook function...
<bparker_>
so there must be some reason why it doesn't automatically handle those events in MessageReceived, but only on BeOS
<bparker_>
wonderful
<Begasus>
g'night peeps
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<countryboy>
beos or haiku ? freedom ... ;-)
<rennj>
more like crapple/m$ vs beos vs haiku...telemetry hackers,governments, and companies and surveillance capitalism
<rennj>
Loopback (also written loop-back) is the routing of electronic signals or digital data streams back to their source without intentional processing or modification. It is primarily a means of testing the communications infrastructure.
<countryboy>
it was an hacker story ...
<countryboy>
a cracker : tell me your ip ... i will crash you ...
<rennj>
beos vmware/vbox vm will have a clock the jiffy time is out of wack
<bparker_>
this is qemu but probably same issue I guess
<rennj>
In computing, a jiffy was originally the time between two ticks of the system timer interrupt.[5] It is not an absolute time interval unit, since its duration depends on the clock interrupt frequency of the particular hardware platform
<bparker_>
and yes, jiffies and BogoMIPS
<bparker_>
where the points are made up and nothing matters
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<countryboy>
rennj: add_timer
<jenna16bit>
IPv5 was attempted, it did not fly
<countryboy>
6 is a fine number = june my birthday ...