<jt15s[m]>
Actually I think for some odd reason we have that page in the main website repo
<waddlesplash>
... that wasn't supposed to be a /me
<waddlesplash>
well that makes it easy to extract
<jt15s[m]>
I was wondering what that was supposed to be for
<jt15s[m]>
I'll go find it
<legendaryamerican>
I'm also an employee at a different npo.. so I know how hard it is.
<legendaryamerican>
(Non computer related). It's been a mess these few years!
<jt15s[m]>
That's odd...the page exists in my fork of the website
<jt15s[m]>
Oh I know what's going on
<jt15s[m]>
The md file is called "thank_you" whilst PayPal redirects you to "thank-you"
<legendaryamerican>
That's why you are |that person|
<legendaryamerican>
I can probably test also WPA on my end set up two systems on the network at the same time running b3.. and try to webserve to the other and see if it's wpa.. or something more complicated.
<jt15s[m]>
And I've just filed a PR to fix the 404 error
<jt15s[m]>
Thanks for letting us know, legendaryamerican 🙂
<jt15s[m]>
Much appreciated
<legendaryamerican>
You rock
<jt15s[m]>
Yikes, for some reason Netlify's throwing up some errors ☹️
<legendaryamerican>
So tomorrow in house wpa network test: serve to client test.
<waddlesplash>
jt15s[m]: what version of hugo did you just build the site with
<jt15s[m]>
waddlesplash: I didn't build the site, just changed the thank-you file
<waddlesplash>
yes, but what is your local hugo version
<jt15s[m]>
Erm 88.1 IIRC
<jt15s[m]>
Yup 0.88.1
<waddlesplash>
OK
<waddlesplash>
that should fix netlify checks
<Not-5726>
[haiku/website-inc] waddlesplash pushed 2 commits to master [+2/-2/±0] https://git.io/J6J1P
<Not-5726>
[haiku/website-inc] jt15s 559b90d - Fixed 404 error with thank you page
<legendaryamerican>
I'll know more about the problem. Because it's doing it either my cable internet and my phone Hotspot I am running assumption it's the current series of networking. Because on the acer aspire one it wouldn't hit wired on sites either but certianly not wireless with either of my on ramps. I have unlimited wifi Hotspot. And cable. So. It can be someone above them both but I doubt it
<mmu_man>
aw, 45min read and it's still not finished
<legendaryamerican>
So tomorrow I'll robinhood across my local via wifi. See what happens.
<jt15s[m]>
That was probably one of the fastest fixes of a website I've ever seen lol - thanks waddlesplash!
<waddlesplash>
:)
<jt15s[m]>
Oh crap
<jt15s[m]>
Looks like there's another problem
<jt15s[m]>
The navbar links aren't showing up
<jt15s[m]>
Can someone else test and verify for me?
<legendaryamerican>
What does it take.. a browser? Shoot url to me then
<jt15s[m]>
legendaryamerican: Yup, just go to https://haiku-inc.org and let me know if you see any links/dropdowns up top
<legendaryamerican>
Drop down works fine so far
<jt15s[m]>
Hmm okay might just be an issue on my end then
<legendaryamerican>
Two agent test. Chrome works. And I guess irccloud uses webview.
<legendaryamerican>
I could fire up wrongdoze and see if it works with their agent. And I have a Mac too.
<ofgg>
works on my firefox in openbsd
<legendaryamerican>
Drop down doesn't work on (guess what?) Edge.
<ofgg>
i like pure-css dropdowns, you dont have to mess with any goofy framework stuff
<legendaryamerican>
Just horizontal. No drop down navigation icon.
<jt15s[m]>
Ah, I'm using Edge so that may be why
<jt15s[m]>
Yup, just tried in Brave and it's working fine
<jt15s[m]>
Just an Edge issue then - phew!
<legendaryamerican>
Yeah. Gotta test sites across agents. Like every change is like ok.. run top 20 different types of browsers! Hi ho hi ho I've lost my mind to go!
<legendaryamerican>
I don't know how well handheld emulation browsers work. I know w3c used to have a site checker that would check against several browser types.
<legendaryamerican>
Or was it ncsa. Oh bother
<legendaryamerican>
(I should say I don't know how handheld emulation browsers work these days. Old days they use to be fine)
<humdinger>
There are different map types possible. komoot's own, openstreetmap and more.
<nephele>
anyway, to support webgl in webkit we need to enable it and test it, it uses ANGLE so it should be possible with how we are set up now (with llvmpipe)
* humdinger
was promoted
<waddlesplash>
the rendering library appears to be OSM-based though
<waddlesplash>
humdinger: yes, not sure why it didn't happen automatically
<waddlesplash>
nephele: ANGLE has its own software renderer too iirc
<waddlesplash>
though I think llvmpipe is faster
<humdinger>
I lost my channel privs when we moved to oftc.
<nephele>
maybe, but i don't know if ANGLE in webkit does, and i don't see the point to use it if we already provide the OpenGL or vulcan api, let's just do one of those and we get 3d accel for free if we ever get that
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<nephele>
I had ops shortly here, but not anymore, but now i'm authed with nickserv
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<PulkoMandy>
we need to enable it and get it to compile, which is not easy
<PulkoMandy>
(tried several times, never got it to work)
<nephele>
Same :)
<PulkoMandy>
and only then we can test it :)
<nephele>
but those sites usually crashed with WASM way before using webgl, so fixing that was my priority before, but it's fixed now so who knows
<nephele>
Well, that is if i can get webkit to not crash on start...
<humdinger>
damn interwebs. why are you so complicated?
<countryboy>
hi humdinger, simply hello !!! ;-)
<humdinger>
hi countryboy
<countryboy>
hi, and peace peace peace => humdinger
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<countryboy>
also to axeld => peace peace peace ...
<countryboy>
:-)
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<waddlesplash>
someone restarting the bridge?
<waddlesplash>
humdinger: well, you are in the "haiku" group in groupserv, so theoretically you should have operator access by default
<waddlesplash>
but indeed for some people it doesn't seem to activate...
<waddlesplash>
maybe you are joining the channels before you are authenticated or something?
<humdinger>
waddlesplash: very possible... let me re-order the auto-execute...
<humdinger>
back in a jiffy
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<humdinger>
seems to work.
<humdinger>
I indeed /joined #haiku before nickserving
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<countryboy>
cu ...
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<countryboy>
hello
<countryboy>
humdinger: maybe vision doesn't want the nick password ?
<humdinger>
countryboy: everyhing works alright for me now
<humdinger>
just had to auth before joining channels
<nephele>
What kind of data type is there in C++ for Haiku to store stuff like N BMenuItem, the current Renga code has a lot of them explicitly like _message_1_item _message_2_item, but i'm trying to figure out if there is something link an array or container thing where i can ask for the Nth element instead
<nephele>
So this also has menu items added on-demand instead of hardcoding exactly 10 and such
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<countryboy>
nephele: it is in libbe.so
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<nephele>
what is countryboy?
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<countryboy>
bmenuitem is in interface/MenuItem.h
<countryboy>
in libbe.so
<countryboy>
it in bebook ...
<nephele>
Yes... but that doesn't answer my question at all
<countryboy>
... Class Index ... boh ?!
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<waddlesplash>
nekobot: BObjectList
<waddlesplash>
err. nephele
<nephele>
miau
<nephele>
Thanks waddlesplash :D
<nephele>
(Also, my nick notifications are working, neat!)
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<mmu_man>
ok let's say this post is done :)
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<beaglejoe>
Does Haikuporter cache dependencies somehow? I modified a recipe to require nothing except haiku. but hp --list-dependencies shows all the removed dependencies
<beaglejoe>
Also, I deleted the repository and packages folders
<waddlesplash>
try deleting the work directories in the recipe folder
* humdinger
plans bike tour for tomorrow, boots Linux for Komoot... the indignities he suffers...
* humdinger
waves
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<beaglejoe>
waddlesplash: thx, but still showing old depends
<waddlesplash>
are you sure it's using the recipe you think it is?
<beaglejoe>
haikuporter -o shows the one that I'm editting
<waddlesplash>
idk then
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<beaglejoe>
Also tried haikuporter --why=libcurl openscenegraph but this always shows error: can only concatenate str (not "NoneType") to str
<waddlesplash>
that sounds like a bug...
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<beaglejoe>
After lunch, maybe I'll look down that rabbit hole, but I'm no Python guru. Thanks for help
<waddlesplash>
x512[m]: it didn't look very good that way in my testing
<waddlesplash>
nephele: fixed
<nephele>
waddlesplash: nice!
<nephele>
It would probably look dandy with my avatar ;)
<nephele>
I want to try adjusting the trac CSS to match the home page a bit, mostly visual style, and the dark mode
<waddlesplash>
what I want is Trac with mobile friendly support
<waddlesplash>
nephele: I think they completely rewrote their templates in the upcoming version of trac
<waddlesplash>
so you may want to wait a bit
<nephele>
probably make the trac bar with timeline buttons and such the same style as the yellow bar on the website if possible, and same size
<extrowerk_>
is this thing on?
<nephele>
waddlesplash: maybe... for the dark mode though i wanted to make a "common" haiku-colors.css that has some css color constants like text color and background color we can use that automatically does the dark mode dance, if i add that i could likely add that easily to a new template? :)
<PulkoMandy>
I would rather use the style we use for the userguide for trac, rather than the website one
<nephele>
hi extrowerk, yes
<extrowerk_>
super.
<PulkoMandy>
(I never liked the look of the website, but maybe that's just me)
<nephele>
PulkoMandy: Well, I only made the dark mode for the website :g
<waddlesplash>
yes, the website could use some re-designing
<nekobot>
[haiku/haiku] f0a567c451c6 - tcp: combine timestamp and sack_permitted options when possible
<extrowerk_>
A hint, if you cann your project as build2, make it sure, the source tree (called build2 conviniently) contains a build2 subdeirectory, which contains a build2 subdirectory.
<extrowerk_>
Is managing files really that hard?
<extrowerk_>
cann=call
<nephele>
what part of the user guide style is missing for you from trac pulkomandy?
<nephele>
apart from the hideious fonts trac uses per default
<nephele>
(in normal zoom)
<nephele>
Anyhow, haiku-colors.css would work aswell If i start that from the userguide, could make a dark mode for it in the same pass
<PulkoMandy>
nephele, the header and menubar are just completely different? and everything else uses different colors too?
<nephele>
I don't really see any menubar for the userguide
<PulkoMandy>
in the userguide it has just the language selection
<PulkoMandy>
in api.haiku-os.org it has a few more things
<nephele>
Ah, that you mean
<nephele>
I'd like to mention though that that language selection is a pretty terrible UI, I've had severall people try to change the langauge and not figuring out how to use it, mainly because it looks like a combobox but then uses some wierd mousehoever effect instead
<PulkoMandy>
the developer docs will have the same style, if I can get someone with admin access to netlify to debug and merge the generation script :>
<waddlesplash>
the generation script should work on linux
<nephele>
The api and user guide don't have the exact same style either it seems?
<PulkoMandy>
yes, there are some differences, we should improve that
<nephele>
Should i then start working on the user guide or the api docs?
<waddlesplash>
userguide first, a lot of stuff flows from it
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<nephele>
where is it? :)
<nephele>
like, is it in the haiku tree?
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<waddlesplash>
nephele: you can't ... you have to ask nicely for us to upload a new css :p
<waddlesplash>
that tool deserves an overhaul but it hasn't gotten one
<nephele>
Does the userguide work if i open it locally?
<waddlesplash>
yes
<PulkoMandy>
waddlesplash, it would be helpful to see the part of the log where sphinx is called
<waddlesplash>
you can just edit the CSS there and send us a new file by working on it there
<nephele>
I guess i'll first figure out where the logo png comes from to make it a svg... :)
<PulkoMandy>
I assume it fails somehow? But ryan already gave me truncated logs like that, from which I don't get any info (ok, the directory doesn't exist, but I don't know why)
<nephele>
Have one css file that defines color constants that automatically respect the dark mode + forced colors mode + high contrast mode + low contrast mode
<nephele>
and then use these color constants in the other file
<Not-5726>
[haiku/website] pulkomandy pushed 1 commit to developerdocs [+0/-0/±1] https://git.io/J60gt
* PulkoMandy
slaps a "designed for internet explorer^W^WWebPositive" sticker on it
<nephele>
Well, it's also webkit, so clearly HaikuMobile (Da futre) would have troubel with it too ;)
<PulkoMandy>
I see that the 404 page on the haiku website says "Due to the recent redesign of the Haiku website, some pages have been relocated." and... I guess the redesign is not exactly recent anymore?
<nephele>
"The forced-color-adjust property allows authors to opt particular elements out of forced colors mode, "
<nephele>
gosh, why does css have properties to "opt-out" of a /forced/ color adjusting
<nephele>
implementing dark mode controls for webkit is going to be fun (or on the reverse end, light mode controls for haiku in dark mode)
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<PulkoMandy>
nephele, ok so now we have https://www.haiku-os.org/docs/develop/ that use a third implementation of the same theme as userguide and API docs
<nephele>
Neat
<nephele>
I think i'm just going to start with the forced css colors, and add more constants if i need them
<nekobot>
[haiku/haiku] 96b062f1ce16 - BuildFeatures: Enable AVIFTranslator on more than just x86_64.
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<nephele>
Well, making css fall back properly is not as easy as i would have though, lol
<maquak>
Small win from my side: I was working on setting up VS Code and C++ extension with Haiku repo so that I get all fancy IDE stuff like "Go to definition", IntelliSense autocompletions and other. The trouble is that to load proper headers, C++ extension needs to know folders with headers. For simple projects with single build target one can just provide list of folders manually, but when there are multiple targets (as is with Haiku repo) an extension is
<maquak>
needed which can tell which headers should be used for given source file. I was working on such extension since yesterday and it works for some of our apps. I still have some cases to solve and I hope to publish the extension and write small guide how to set it up this week.
<maquak>
Next on my list will be setting up debugger, so that I can connect from VS Code to Haiku
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<waddlesplash>
aka "compile_commands.json"
<waddlesplash>
you can use "jam -c <regular arguments" to generate such a file already
<maquak>
Oooh, that might be a nice option to use
<waddlesplash>
looks like the way to do it is "jam -can <profile>"
<waddlesplash>
at least I got a file here with that...
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<waddlesplash>
lol, Qt Creator crashed when trying to open it
<nephele>
Pulkomandy has some web code viewer somewhere using those compile_commands.json also
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<PulkoMandy>
yes, there is pulkomandy.tk/woboq (quite outdated now) and for offline browsing you can also use sourcetrail (qt based, I think it's in haikudepot)
<nephele>
In the end this should also work with forced colors mode (currently only windows 10 has this, but i see no reason why we can't add this to Web+ aswell)
<maquak>
Invalid option: -c, I have Jam 2.5
<waddlesplash>
maquak: you need to rebuild your jam
<waddlesplash>
or rather ... you need a haiku jam, if you don't already
<nephele>
i think that only works with either the jam from us, or the one from boost (but you cant use that for our stuff)
<waddlesplash>
you can only use haiku jam to build haiku, the build system will throw errors if yo udon't
<maquak>
Is the jam installed with haiku different from the one in buildtools?
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<extrowerk_2>
maquak: so just read the build howto again. it tells you exactly you should build haiku's jam
<maquak>
Indeed, the one from buildtools has -c option and I get compile_commands.json, thanks for telling me about this
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<maquak>
And both versions report the same version string :O
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<waddlesplash>
yeah, probably we need to update jam in haikuports...
<PulkoMandy>
and change the version string more often
<waddlesplash>
hey, my custom haiku_loader still works
<waddlesplash>
guess this can be committed then
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<rennj>
boost!
<nephele>
huh... Renga also has a version, neat
<nephele>
I'm sure that will be changed too, at some point :D
<PulkoMandy>
yes, there is a roadmap on github for what I wanted to fix before making a release
<PulkoMandy>
and IIRC the next one should be 1.22 because one of the forks of jabber4beos had a version 1.21 at some point
<nephele>
it sais 1.2.1-development
<nephele>
I suppose vision-feature-parity is the tag for the stuff to fix?
<PulkoMandy>
yes, but someone mispackaged that as 1.21 somewhere
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<nephele>
let's do versio 94 so we are ahead of firefox /s
<PulkoMandy>
apparently all things planned for 1.22 are already solved :)
<nephele>
Well, spinner of death... seems broken, that website
<maquak>
extrowerk_2: so build instructions tell to run "./jam0 install" in buildtools, but this installs in /boot/common/bin/jam (weird directory btw)
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<nephele>
Let's release a new version, only after enter-to-send works .-.
<PulkoMandy>
oh this was never updated after deprecating /boot/common?
<PulkoMandy>
(that directory was replaced by /boot/system/non-packaged, basically)
<maquak>
So the fix would be to change install directory to non-packaged I guess?
<PulkoMandy>
yes
<maquak>
Cool, I'll work on this tomorrow
<augiedoggie>
waddlesplash: https://0x0.st/-dHc.txt getting dependency failures while building, is this my fault?
<waddlesplash>
no, appears I failed to update a line in the commit
<waddlesplash>
hmm, what happened to CI?
<nephele>
Is there a specific reason for the "thin dotted" outline of info boxes in the userguide? it looks really terrible in dark mode, and in light more it also is not flattering :)
<waddlesplash>
I think it looks nice...
<nephele>
Although, it looks much nicer in Safari, could be WebPositives fault for misrendering it
<nekobot>
[haiku/haiku] adb04d5ad311 - haiku_datatranslators: Remove version specification from libavif.
<augiedoggie>
nice
<nephele>
waddlesplash: in WebPositive the border is only below and to the right, and the upper left corner
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<nephele>
and also seems to be some nasty antialiasing getting me an RGB rainbow
<legendaryamerican>
Do I need to enable zero configuration on router for haiku?
<waddlesplash>
for what? Haiku does DHCP
<waddlesplash>
augiedoggie: ^^^ that should fix it
<waddlesplash>
ah, you replied already
<nephele>
you mean zeroconf/avahi/bonjour? No, that isn't needed for anything, it's used for network discovery of services (and haiku doesn't really do anything with that currently)
<legendaryamerican>
Okie.
<augiedoggie>
well, mostly nice, still getting a failure :P
<legendaryamerican>
One for on. Second time for off. Works like a dream haiku aspire one.
<jt15s[m]>
Also waddlesplash yeah mobile support on Trac would be cool, yet the ticket here has stalled for a few years now: https://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/11953
<jt15s[m]>
Alternatively we could use this theme: https://trac-hacks.org/wiki/BlueFlatTheme#:~:text=%20A%20responsive%2C%20flat%2C%20blue%20theme%20using%20Bootstrap,Recent%20Changes.%20BlueFlatTheme%3A%20support%20Trac%201.4...%20More%20
<jt15s[m]>
It's a theme built on Bootstrap but we would need to change the colours
<jt15s[m]>
It's still maintained which is good too