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<waddlesplash> DHowett: those PCI IDs are only needed for devices that have both XHCI and EHCI controllers and require portswitching logic
<waddlesplash> yours almost certainly doesn't
<waddlesplash> DHowett: and no, this isn't an XHCI or NVME issue. if no icons are lit up at all, the bootloader has failed to hand off into the kernel
<waddlesplash> the first icon will be lit before any drivers are initialized
<waddlesplash> XHCI is surprisingly forwards compatible so far. the driver we have supports 0.9 through 1.2 revisions and it seems to do OK
<DHowett> ah, i was thinking that "an inability to find the kernel on permanent storage" would result in no first icon :)
<waddlesplash> no, that problem will get you a bootloader error message
<waddlesplash> failure to mount the boot volume gets you one ofthe "panic no boot partitions" message
<waddlesplash> which occurs during the "hard disk" icon
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<waddlesplash> "no lit icons" is a bootloader/kernel handoff problem, indicating the bootloader thinks it is about to start the kernel, but something instead going wrong
<waddlesplash> have you tried: 4GB memory limit, no SMP, etc. options in the safe mode menu?
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<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes pushed 1 commit to master [+3/-0/±0] https://git.io/JKDPi
<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes 5101ef7 - glfw: add recipe
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<Guest3262> Good morning
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<PulkoMandy> hi
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<nephele> I had hoped biboumi would autoauth me now.. i suppose i don't know the correct raw irc command :D
<nephele> good morning PulkoMandy
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<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] korli pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://git.io/JKS8T
<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] korli f7ffeb2 - grpc: improve requires
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<roiredX> good day
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<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] korli pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://git.io/JKSPH
<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] korli 666dc85 - gtest: fix prefix path in pkgconfig files
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<nephele> Hello roiredX
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<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] diversys pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://git.io/JKS5h
<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] davidkaroly 0b37494 - faad2: add libVersion, fixPkgconfig, debuginfo (#6296)
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<countryboy> hello, peace ...
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<countryboy> doing a full-sync with current ...
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<julicenri> Has anyone here gotten any system updates on a nightly build recently?
<julicenri> Haven't been receiving any for a while now.
<julicenri> Only updates from HaikuPorts.
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<nephele> If i activiate the repo i get an update offered: upgrade package haiku-r1~beta3_hrev55421_4_dirty-1 to r1~beta3_hrev55507-1 from repository Haiku
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<countryboy> full-sync ok ...
<countryboy> rebooted ...
<countryboy> mouse freeze ...
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<julicenri> nephele: Are you using the EU repo?
<julicenri> MrEntropy on Haiku Discord has also experienced the same odd behaviour as well.
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<julicenri> Reactivating the EU Haiku repo on my end hasn't made a difference.
<nephele> I don't know about a discord, but the repo i use is the "new" uri of https://eu.hpkg.haiku-os.org/haiku/master/x86_64/current
<nephele> I usually don't use this though because i compile haiku.hpkg myself (for some color hacks mainly)
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<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://git.io/JKHOZ
<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes 2941d63 - tg_owt: revert using system abseil_cpp
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<mrentropyvcs> I have the hardest time with VMware Workstation and 32-bit versions of Haiku.
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<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://git.io/JKHoP
<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes 5984371 - Telegram: revert using system abseil_cpp
<mmu_man> So if you want to join in on Jitsi Meet: https://discuss.haiku-os.org/t/haiku-coding-sprint-2021/11327/89
<mmu_man> </nostalgia>
<mrentropyvcs> Thanks for that. I'll have to read it on my downtime.
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<mrentropyvcs> We have FocusWriter and it turns out the author's Novprog program also compiles easily. Handy for anyone doing the NaNoWriMo thing.
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<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] korli pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-0/±1] https://git.io/JKHAm
<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] korli cd89acc - abseil_cpp: mmap and alarm supported
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<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] korli pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-1/±0] https://git.io/JKHxV
<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] korli c4b2943 - gtest: bump version
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<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] korli pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://git.io/JKQ65
<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] korli e22eece - grpc: switch to c++17
<mmu_man> ah there's finally some discussion happenning on jitsi :)
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<roiredX> good day
<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] diversys pushed 1 commit to master [+2/-2/±0] https://git.io/JKQps
<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] davidkaroly 2e4ede8 - openssl: bump to 1.1.1l (#6298)
<mmu_man> ok I already have 30min reading time on my lenovo rant blog post…
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<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] korli pushed 2 commits to master [+3/-1/±0] https://git.io/JK502
<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] korli 305449a - bear: bump version
<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] korli e314db9 - nlohmann_json: new recipe
<nephele> Why is there no constructor for BString from std::string?
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] pulkomandy pushed 2 commits to master [hrev55519] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=628ddb27905b+%5E610f99c838cb
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 5b38b945ae8a - flaticon: Fix warnings due to type punning
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 628ddb27905b - usb_webcam: Fix warnings and enable Werror
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<DHowett> waddlesplash: nope, none of the safe mode entries (painstakingly tried) help
<waddlesplash> all of them at once
<waddlesplash> ?
<waddlesplash> well, all the ones that make sense to
<PulkoMandy> nephele, the BeAPI does not depend or use the C++ STL API in any way, so you have to go through C to communicate between the two
<nephele> PulkoMandy: Hmm, would be a nice convenience funtion :/
<extrowerk_> the wlan i nthe hotel is not friendly to Haiku.
<extrowerk_> The connection drops in every 3-5 minutes :(
<DHowett> yep, all of them at once (or, the ones that make sense), and individual ones that made sense as well
<waddlesplash> extrowerk_: are you on idualwifi?
<extrowerk_> yep
<waddlesplash> probably it's the driver's fault, it only supports abg mode, not n/ac
<PulkoMandy> nephele, most apps don't use the STL at all and use BString everywhere. But it doesn't work so well when mixing in 3rd party libraries
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<DHowett> overall, though, I tried all of them. the APIC ones were tried in a group, however
<waddlesplash> and most networks these days don't like abg only clients
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<waddlesplash> DHowett: strange, don't know if anyone else experienced this with the efi loader before
<nephele> PulkoMandy: I'm noticing
<extrowerk_> waddlesplash: i have a syslog extract for you, lemme get it
<extrowerk_> waddlesplash: https://pastebin.com/raw/tCK17LDu
<extrowerk_> it seems i get deauthed.
<extrowerk_> idk whats going on, but after 20 min time i always have to re-open the capative portal even on windows to get net again.
<waddlesplash> yeah, I've got similar issues on some networks here
<waddlesplash> the driver really just needs to be updated to support 80211n
<extrowerk_> but on windows the connection doesn't gets dropped, it just simply doesn't transfer packages.
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<extrowerk_> terrible network
<extrowerk_> waddlesplash: what does required for n mode support?
<waddlesplash> more code in the driver
<waddlesplash> openbsd added it but it wasn't ported to freebsd yet
<waddlesplash> I tried to work on it but didn't finish it and did not yet return to it
<extrowerk_> i see, thanks for the info.
<extrowerk_> another question: what is the roadblock in enabling the gcc11 rcipe? afair we should check if it can build haiku, is that all?
<waddlesplash> no, we need to do it in sync with upgrading haiku to use gcc11
<extrowerk_> i have now long nights, i am sitting in the quarantine, i can play with it a bit
<waddlesplash> which indeed I should get to one of these days...
<extrowerk_> "upgrading haiku to use gcc112 does it means change in the haiku sources to be able to build with gcc11?
<waddlesplash> yes, and upgrading "buildtools" repository
<extrowerk_> i see, thank you
<waddlesplash> extrowerk_: on an unrealted note, can you still trigger https://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/16973 ?
<waddlesplash> I see other people can, I'm working on a fix
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<extrowerk_> i can't, i repurposed that computer to a TrueNAS box. I have no other use and also i don't have place to set that computer up.
<waddlesplash> ok
<extrowerk_> sorry.
<bbjimmy_64> haikuporter cannot build any packages ... all is not a valid archatecture.
<PulkoMandy> you ened to update to the latest haikuporter version
<PulkoMandy> but I guess no one did a release of it with this change?
<bbjimmy_64> I just did.. the issue remains
<extrowerk_> waddlesplash: is there any intel wlan driver which could function better? i have a spare m.2 wlan card, thats driven by intel49xx driver (sorry, i forgot the exact driver name)
<waddlesplash> yes, the iprowifi4965 driver supporsts 802.11n
<extrowerk_> oh, then i wil lreplace the wlan card. obviously it is on the continent, while i am not, so now i have to survive with this.
<bbjimmy_64> Thgat didn't work, so I downloaded https://github.com/haikuports/haikuporter/archive/refs/tags/1.2.4.zip and used it... still does not work. the only way to build an .hpkg is to change the archatecture back to x86_gcc2 or x86_64
<waddlesplash> no, you have to use master
<waddlesplash> you must be still using the old haikuporter
<waddlesplash> the new one definitely works, it's now used by default on the builders and I've built stuff myself with "all" architecture
<bbjimmy_64> Where do I get the new one?
<extrowerk_> it definetely works
<waddlesplash> bbjimmy_64: you may have cloned the new one, but are you sure you are invoking the new one?
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<bbjimmy_64> I removed the old one and used the new one... still the same issue.
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<waddlesplash> somewhere there is one you are using instead of the new one.
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<bbjimmy_64> # TREE_PATH:
<bbjimmy_64> # The full path to your cloned haikuports tree.
<bbjimmy_64> TREE_PATH="/boot/home/haikuports"
<waddlesplash> that's the configuration file
<waddlesplash> how are you invoking haikuporter
<bbjimmy_64> command line haikuporter program
<waddlesplash> yes, full path
<bbjimmy_64> I have a link in /boot/home/config/non-packaged/bin to /boot/home/haikuporter/haikuporter
<bbjimmy_64> Third time using git clone https://github.com/haikuports/haikuporter.git from the home directory, it finally works. ???
<Diver> waddlesplash: 3dEyes can reproduce that nvme driver bug
<waddlesplash> Diver: well, I've got a fix in progress
<Diver> nice!
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<Not-5726> [haikuporter] pulkomandy created 1.2.5 |  - https://git.io/JKFLt
<Not-5726> [haikuporter] pulkomandy released 1.2.5 |  - https://git.io/JKFLt
<Not-5726> [haikuporter] pulkomandy published 1.2.5 |  - https://git.io/JKFLt
<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuporter] pulkomandy tagged 01f0371 as 1.2.5 https://git.io/JKFLq
<Not-5726> [haikuporter] pulkomandy created tag 1.2.5 - https://git.io/v3LEy
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<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] pulkomandy pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-1/±0] https://git.io/JKFXX
<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] pulkomandy 0b5ae3d - Update haikuporter recipe to 1.2.5
<Niklas[m]> Is there any way to use a PPPoE internet connection with Haiku?While I'm still waiting for the VDSL SFP module for my new router,I noticed that my laptop with Haiku seems to support such connections natively hardware-wise but I don't know where to configure the connection or if Haiku even has drivers for it.
<PulkoMandy> no, the PPP stack was never completed due to lack of interest by developers
<Niklas[m]> Hm,that's not good...Maybe I can find some Linux live USB stick...
<waddlesplash> PulkoMandy: no, it was
<waddlesplash> however it is untested, not included in the image, and may or may not actually work
<waddlesplash> so, if you know a thing or two about PPPoE, you might test it out and see what happens?
<waddlesplash> "some assembly required"
<PulkoMandy> well that counts as "never completed" to me
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<Niklas[m]> If you can tell me what to do,I'll try
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<Vidrep_64> Hi
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<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuporter] pulkomandy pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://git.io/JKNoM
<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuporter] pulkomandy ca9d396 - Update __version__.py for next release.
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<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] diversys pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-1/±0] https://git.io/JKAZN
<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] extrowerk 9360049 - libpcre: bump (#6302)
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<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] diversys pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-1/±0] https://git.io/JKxVm
<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] extrowerk 646bddb - x264: bump (#6303)
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<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] extrowerk 2b3eb28 - libopenmpt: bump (#6304)
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 4 commits to master [hrev55520] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=69880fc7cb8a+%5E628ddb27905b
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 8f5199f019e5 - nvme_disk: Unconditionally mask off PCI_command_int_disable.
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] f7179d9f4121 - nvme_disk: Improve nvme_pcicfg_map_bar logic.
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 62571f5eb4f5 - nvme_disk: Disable MSI-X support for now.
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 69880fc7cb8a - nvme_disk: Check addresses are 32-bit-aligned before deciding we do not need to bounce.
<mmu_man> The Jitsi Meet channel is open: https://visio2.triplea.fr:4433/Haiku
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<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] korli pushed 1 commit to master [+2/-2/±0] https://git.io/JKxpb
<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] extrowerk 201b354 - CMake: bump, debug, compat (#6300)
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<mmu_man> I bug to disagree. #ironame
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<HaikuUser2> still no wpa workie
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<Legended> this install only works on open networks. same goes for the t61.
<Legended> hope to get this working because some of these systems very soon will force migrate off of windows
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<Legended> ok.so i have to figure out why I cant secure this connection
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<mmu_man> oh dear, there's still so much I want to tell in this article
<mmu_man> and it's already a 40min read
<rennj> you really got it in for lenovo
<rennj> sold to china! what did you think would happen...
<rennj> old news
<rennj> As of September 2015: Lenovo systems may include software components that communicate with servers on the internet - All ThinkCentre, All ThinkStation, All ThinkPad
<rennj> Solution
<rennj> This is working as designed. The behavior is documented in the End User License Agreement that all users must read and accept prior to using their Lenovo system for the first time.
<mbrumbelow[m]> mmu_man: What is the largest number of people in the chat room today?
<mbrumbelow[m]> The Jitsi Meet Channel
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<rennj> U.S. Marine network security breach: In February 2021, Bloomberg Business reported that U.S. investigators found in 2008 that military units in Iraq were using Lenovo laptops in which the hardware had been altered. According to a testimony from the case in 2010, "A large amount of Lenovo laptops were sold to the U.S. military that had a chip encrypted on the motherboard that would record all the data that was being inputted into that laptop
<rennj> and send it back to China
<rennj> wikipedia!
<mmu_man> mbrumbelow[m]: not sure, 6 or 7 I'd say
<mmu_man> yeah I know about Superfish.
<mbrumbelow[m]> Not a bad turnout. Burning man had about 10+ or so when it first started.