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<waddlesplash> well, the nvme panic is apparently not fixed
<waddlesplash> and I'm more than a little baffled about it
<waddlesplash> guess I get to attempt to reproduce it for real in the morning and see what I get
<waddlesplash> hmm, maybe I can just construct some really weird dd parameters, that might do the job
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] aplgithub pushed 1 commit to master [hrev55592] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=0d4fa3e526bf+%5E491592688dee
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 0d4fa3e526bf - HaikuDepot: Show Publish Date
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<mangix> So is Haiku meant to be ran on QEMU or bare metal?
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<jezek2> both
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<mangix> How's the driver situation?
<skirst> for sure both. metal if all your hardware supported is beautiful
<mangix> Oh actually is GPT/UEFI supported?
<skirst> yeah. my metal install and all my VMs are GPT/EFI
<mangix> Great 
<skirst> you have to do a bit of manual fudging, but it works
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<nephele> Vidrep_64: You can make a second ticket for the freeze, but i highly suspect it is already reported from the look of your debug report
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<mangix> Huh. Haiku iso panics on boot complaining it can't find a boot partition. Oh well.
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<p10r[m]> <nephele> "This might be related, but it..." <- I'm not sure if this is the right one, but I'll track it regardless. My Ethernet issues are fixed (faulty cable /facepalm), so at least the thing boots. Safe-mode graphics are low-res (lower than native 800p) but will make do for now.
<p10r[m]> Next up, building Emacs!
<nephele> ??
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<nephele> I have no clue what you are trying to qoute
<p10r[m]> nephele: I reported #17354 yesterday.
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] pulkomandy pushed 1 commit to master [hrev55593] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=a1f7cb5d4e9a+%5E0d4fa3e526bf
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] a1f7cb5d4e9a - ldscripts/arm/kernel: discard exidx sections
<nephele> You qouted me above, but horribly cut off, i have no idea what comment you mean
<p10r[m]> Huh. I'm using the Element android app
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<p10r[m]> This was your message ->
<p10r[m]> This might be related, but it doesn't have the same misrendering: https://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/17009
<nephele> Ah
<nephele> closed the ticket :)
<p10r[m]> Thanks!
<p10r[m]> Now the graphics thing still remains
<p10r[m]> Which ticket do I track?
<p10r[m]> Either way, I have a working system with internet. Now I can get to building Emacs and then make this machine actually useful :)
<p10r[m]> A very nice person submitted a working patch couple months ago, I'll see if I can be a test subject for it
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<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] pulkomandy pushed 2 commits to master [+3/-0/±1] https://git.io/JiaTJ
<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] pulkomandy 5d551c8 - Add recipe for haiku-format.
<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] pulkomandy e1a69a3 - protobuf: remove gtest from runtime requires.
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<countryboy> 4 all the operating systems : a lock file on boot => doesn't run an app until oprating system has finished to load ...
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<countryboy> another lock file : do nothing until finished burning a cd or dvd ...
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<nephele> A bit of a concept i worked on yesterday; It's nice to see that love2d works on Haiku
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<BrunoSpr> hi all
<BrunoSpr> how to copy a CD the fast way?
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<skirst> has anyone attempted to add haiku support to the rtmidi library? can't seem to find anything searching. thinking about giving it a stab. it was really easy getting midi wired up in my synth with the midi2 library
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 2 commits to master [hrev55594] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=4492fde7bf7c+%5Ea1f7cb5d4e9a
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 0cabd8891f31 - intel_extreme: fix regression introduced in hrev55419.
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 4492fde7bf7c - intel_extreme: reduce use of display_mode where display_timing is enough
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<countryboy> hi humdinger : peace
<countryboy> hi everybody : peace
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<countryboy> peace and no war => https://youtu.be/jHQEZu0W_Qc
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<nephele> ??
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<countryboy> skirst: TRINITY Eternal is stronger ...
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<skirst> shit, i meant no offense
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<countryboy> love your enemy too ...
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<beaglejoe> cocobean: ...fixed the recipes and recompiled OpenSceneGraph (OSG) and SimGear (FlightGear) again... Where can I get the recopes?
<beaglejoe> *recipes
<humdinger> Anyone interested in translating Moe to their language?
<mmu_man> Reminder: The Jitsi Meet channel is open: https://visio2.triplea.fr:4433/Haiku
* humdinger is idle: BRB
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [hrev55595] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=6bef34f85349+%5E4492fde7bf7c
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 6bef34f85349 - launch/user: Put env in both target desktop and service app_server.
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 3 commits to master [hrev55596] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=18851359d05a+%5E6bef34f85349
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] dab646ac9aa2 - nvme_disk & virtio_block: Remove unneeded log2.
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 5250914df76d - nvme_disk: Remove redundant check.
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 18851359d05a - nvme_disk: Add the block size and count to the syslog output upon opening devices.
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<Anarchos> i have code of haiku boot manager installed as my MBR. How comes it doesn't do a cli at first ?
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [hrev55597] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=9bc2885cd455+%5E18851359d05a
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 9bc2885cd455 - nvme_disk: Allocate and utilize qpairs based on how many CPUs we have.
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [hrev55598] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=535b7dc9d303+%5E9bc2885cd455
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 535b7dc9d303 - nvme_disk: Include smp.h.
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<bbjimmy_64> hrev 55592 launching a yab script from a shell script cannot find yab I think this is from the appserver change waddlesplash
<waddlesplash> yes, it is
<waddlesplash> fixed in hrev55595
<bbjimmy_64> ok
<bbjimmy_64> thanks :)
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<Anarchos> Could someone explain me why we have 3 possibility for boot sector : mbr.S (writembr) bootman.S (BootManager) and stage1.nasm (boot/platform/bios_ia32) ?
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<waddlesplash> they have different purposes
<waddlesplash> bootman is a boot manager, it displays a menu of bootable partitions (can include non Haiku ones)
<waddlesplash> mbr.S is a master boot record, looks for the first Haiku partition and loads the stage1 nasm
<waddlesplash> stage1.nasm reads through the partition, finds the haiku loader, and loads it
<Anarchos> waddlesplash ok, but as haiku is the only OS installed on this drive, its MBR is equal to bootman.S
<Anarchos> waddlesplash so it "works" as mbr.S but it "shouldn't"
<waddlesplash> no, that's fine, I think
<Anarchos> waddlesplash yes, but i am feared not to see a cli in bootman.S :)
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [hrev55599] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=52f94eb19e7e+%5E535b7dc9d303
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 52f94eb19e7e - nvme_disk: Add missing checks in the case where there is only one iovec.
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<Anarchos> waddlesplash i don't remember how i ended with only bootman on the boot sector
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<jessicah> bootman is just a multiple boot loader, it doesn't replace haiku loader at all
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<Anarchos> jessicah yes but it replaced my MBR :)
<jessicah> well of course it did, that's what it's for
<jessicah> it doesn't go anywhere else :p
<jessicah> didn't it back up the original MBR though?
<jessicah> pretty sure it does that
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<Anarchos> jessicah i am fine with my mbr being replaced, i just wonder why bootman doesn't do a 'cli'
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<jessicah> you mean like grub?
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<Anarchos> jessicah every tutorial i read say to do 'cli' prior anything else
<Anarchos> because it is said we can't rely on the bios to do it
<jessicah> oh, a clear interrupts instruction
<jessicah> didn't realise you were talking assembly language
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<Anarchos> jessicah sometimes i speak weird languages : french, english, a bit german, seldomly latin and russian :)
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<mmu_man> oh, j/k navigate in posts on the forum
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<Anarchos> jessicah maybe i should post a modification adding a cli in bootman.S :)
<jessicah> maybe, does it fix something?
<Anarchos> jessicah my anxiety not to start with interruptions disabled :)
<jessicah> haha :p
<Anarchos> jessicah sure this use case is rather rare : you should have haiku installed on the whole disk
<Anarchos> and install the boot menu by BootManager afterwards
<jessicah> even with a whole disk system, you still don't need bootman at all
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<beaglejoe> cocobean: I would prefer to build OSG myself. Do you have the recipe and patchset ?
<Anarchos> jessicah i prefer to leave it, in case i split the whole partition to install another OS
<beaglejoe> cocobean: I am pretty sure that I have narrowed my problem to SDL2. I really just need the recipe and patchset to sdl2-2.0.14-7
<jessicah> beaglejoe: I dunno if somebody was waiting for me to contribute a patch to sdl2_mixer, I don't have any change I need to add at this stage
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<beaglejoe> jessicah: sdl2_mixer is seperate from sdl2, so there is no need for anyone to wait.
<beaglejoe> In fact, I think sdl2_mixer depends on sdl2, so that should be updated first.
<jessicah> I don't have any fix at this stage
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<beaglejoe> cocobean: Thanks!
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<beaglejoe> jessicah: the speed_dreams game has migrated to sdl2_mixer for the next release, as it fixes some issues with the music, so I may be able to offer some help with your issue (at least with additional testing)
<beaglejoe> I have built it from subversion, the music works but is choppy? (ogg files btw)
<jessicah> this is with MIDI support
<jessicah> that isn't working
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<beaglejoe> IIRC, there is something called GUS that needs to be added, or timidity support
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<jessicah> I noticed a check in the cmake for timidity, I guess I can have a look at enabling that
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<beaglejoe> I build it for Windows, but I didn't need MIDI.
<beaglejoe> although I notice -disable-music-midi-fluidsynth
<cocobean> Project test pkg for haikuwebkit/WebPositive: https://www.dropbox.com/s/yx06mijz862x9b8/haikuwebkit-1.8.2-3-x86_64.hpkg?dl=0
<cocobean> GigaCage fix.
<Anarchos> is there a mean to know in which hrev this fix https://review.haiku-os.org/c/haiku/+/4664 will be available ?
<nephele> cocobean: sorry, what?
<jessicah> you can lookup the commit hash
<nephele> could you please stop posting random dropboxes for haiku packages and instead just show the patches you are trying to do...?
<cocobean> For what? Users?
<Anarchos> jessicah to look where ?
<nephele> Anarchos: in the left sidebar there is a link to cgit
<jessicah> cgit seems to not be working
<nephele> cocobean: Why should users care? This is a development version, what's the point of asking people to test fixes you do if you literally don't share what the fix is?
<jessicah> Anarchos: 55594
<Anarchos> nephele is cgit the same as a CI server building the hrev ?
<jessicah> no
<jessicah> it's just a repo browser
<cocobean> There are many recipes/patches laying around but if someone wants to test them.... howso without a build setup?
<nephele> cgit can tell you which hrevs tag which git commits
<nephele> cocobean: "I tested some random dropbox package" is not a ticket that will be accepted, it is pointless to ask to test like this
<cocobean> Well... let us focus on other matters...
<cocobean> Not random package... The samew package built from github.
<cocobean> haikuwebkit github.. any questions.. look there.
<nephele> It is random, you didn't share anything about what you did
<Anarchos> nephele thanks i am not so aware of cgit
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<cocobean> It is identified in the package.
<nephele> "haikuwebkit 1.8.2"
<nephele> Can't be true, you just said it is a development version
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<cocobean> Is it now 1.8.3 (he versioning is not fixed in WebPositive)
<cocobean> (only for nightly)
<nephele> haikuwebkit versioning has nothing to do with WebPositive
<cocobean> Oh..... WebPsiitive 1.2-a vs WebPostive 1.3a ??
<cocobean> What defines haikuwebkit 1.8.3 release ? When?
<nephele> When PulkoMandy sais so
<cocobean> Right
<cocobean> But, I get your point... ket us move on.
<cocobean> (let)
<cocobean> The snapshot shows the commit is was taken from.
<cocobean> That is all.
<cocobean> Others can just get the package from HaikuDepot when available.
<nephele> Yes, once 1.8.3 will be released
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<Anarchos> jessicah i confirm that on my device Display 8086:a011: Atom Processor Integrated Graphics Controller , it solves the flickering and shrinking of screen to its left half
<nephele> (did for me too :)
<jessicah> that's nice, I didn't work on it :)
<nephele> glory by association
<jessicah> ;-)
<jessicah> intel gfx on my airbook is unsupported
<jessicah> haven't looked into it at all
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<beaglejoe> bbl
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<Anarchos> jessicah you helped me identify the revision where the fix was applied, so i i knew i could update safely :)
<Anarchos> jessicah you envision to use haiku on your airbook natively ?
<jessicah> I already do
<Anarchos> jessicah in vesa mode i guess ?
<ffog> it didn't boot on the macbook air i tried, but i didn't mess with it much
<jessicah> mine is kinda old, macbook air 6,2
<jessicah> I think that's 2013?
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<ffog> thats around the age of this one hmmmm 2012 maybe
<jessicah> yeah, mid-2013
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<Vidrep_64> waddlesplash, will you (or anyone else) have an opportunity to look at that crash with PhotoGrabber before the coding sprint is over?
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