<OscarL>
Being negative... on purpose... tell me... how that aligns with some good conversations we had regarding books?
<OscarL>
I try to be nice with you. But you taught me otherwise: "Disregards others"... fuck that. Just stop being so shitty, so even broken people like me can reach you.
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<OscarL>
not sure how to address the channels admins, but... really... what more you do need to ban rennj (or me, in that case)?
<BarmenduChakraborty[m]>
Though would connect with you over dm in case you do :P
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<badkeming[m]>
OscarL: You can choose to stop interacting you know? /ignore works too (ngl, it makes the channel easier to follow because the random ramblings go away). This is also the first channel ever where I've had to resort to that (mostly due to the random stuff cluttering my backlog, making it hard to read)
<badkeming[m]>
The "proof or it didn't happen" stuff is baiting you to win a rigged game. There's no upside for you as I see it, so (again) you can choose to simply not engage? (no offence to your conversation "partner" here).
<badkeming[m]>
Nothing you say is likely to convince them, so direct your (valuable) energy elsewhere and be happy. They're going to do what they do, otherwise they'd have gotten the memo and stopped a long time ago.
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<HaikuUser>
holla
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<PulkoMandy>
We didn't do any baos because. i think no one asked us, and it's at times where I'm usually offline so I just don't read the backlog in the morning. Ignoring works for one person but all newcomers on the channel will still see the messages, so for the community, it doesn't help
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<andreasdr[m]>
Good morning
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<rennj>
w0rd
<Kokito>
Good evening here
<rennj>
time appropriate greetings peoples
<rennj>
morning/noon/night
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<andreasdr[m]>
Good evening Kokito, good day rennj
<andreasdr[m]>
:D
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<andreasdr[m]>
Sorry could not resist. Happy welcome.
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<RajAryan[m]>
Hey, I am Raj Aryan. I am kinda new to the OS world. Would love some help with where to begin. I am very comfortable with cpp and have good experience working in Javascript and python too. A little of Rust as well.
<RajAryan[m]>
Thank You
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<HaikuUser>
nick / Helo
<HaikuUser>
nick/Halo
<HaikuUser>
nick / Halo
<HaikuUser>
nic \ Halo
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<raymondmendoza>
The slash goes before nick
<phschafft>
I mean they try.
<raymondmendoza>
*shugs*
<raymondmendoza>
*shrugs*
<raymondmendoza>
I just wish I could figure out the key combinations for irssi in Haiku. alt+arrows doesn't change "windows" like it does in *nixes.
<phschafft>
uh... it does on linux. fun. thanks for telling me!
<phschafft>
always used ^N and ^P.
<raymondmendoza>
Slackware and RedHat derivatives. Open and FreeBSD, too. I was just trying to remember if it worked in OpenIndiana.
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<trungnt2910[m]>
Errmmm....
<trungnt2910[m]>
What happens to Haiku `pthread_mutex`es after `fork` is called? How can I unlock them?
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<realTaraHarris>
@X512 I just saw an unlisted video on YouTube with your Radeon Vulkan stuff. That is so cool!
<realTaraHarris>
I have a machine with a Radeon 7790 and I would love to try it
<realTaraHarris>
I'd even buy a different card if that is necessary
<andreasdr[m]>
Btw. This is our tiny 3d engine. We also have VK. :)
<andreasdr[m]>
Its complete but needs some performance love.
<andreasdr[m]>
And of course our beloved HaikuOS!
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<waddlesplash>
badkeming[m]: in the future, we have #haiku-offtopic for all conversations not actually related to Haiku itself
<waddlesplash>
please do move there, and encourage people to move there, if the offtopic lasts for more than 5-10 messages :)
<andreasdr[m]>
Sorry.
<waddlesplash>
andreasdr[m]: no, you're fine
<waddlesplash>
I'm replying about messages from last night
<waddlesplash>
rennj: it seems other community members do not find your messages very helpful, and I tend to agree with them. So, this is a warning to slow down, and be less aggressive and probably consolidate your rather verbose messaging.
<andreasdr[m]>
waddlesplash: Ah Ok. Thank you.
<win8linux[m]>
Started to notice that after using Falkon for an extended period of time, parts of the system become unresponsive.
<win8linux[m]>
Some apps will fails to launch or close after it starts happening.
<win8linux[m]>
ProcessController stops working too, so the Falkon thread can't be killed.
<win8linux[m]>
s/fails/fail/
<win8linux[m]>
Forced to use KDL, but not overly familiar with it yet.
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<badkeming[m]>
<waddlesplash> "please do move there, and..." <- ack
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<waddlesplash>
none of these will be helpful with hangs, no
<win8linux[m]>
Should it happen again, what should I do in the KDL to try and get useful info?
<waddlesplash>
find one of the deadlocked threads, find what it's waiting on
<waddlesplash>
find the thread that currently holds that resource the locked thread is waiting on, get a backtrace
<waddlesplash>
may require more levels of indirection, it varies
<waddlesplash>
other things may be encountered while debugging this way which sidetrack you, it's "more art than science" in some ways
<win8linux[m]>
Thanks, I'll see what I can get next time.
<win8linux[m]>
Wondering though, how can a locked thread result in a partially broken system?
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<win8linux[m]>
Usually expecting either the rest of the system to chug along or go down entirely.
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<realTaraHarris>
andreasdr[m]: your tiny 3d engine looks cool <3
<waddlesplash>
win8linux[m]: because if something hangs while holding VM system locks, then nothing else can do anything with memory
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<win8linux[m]>
Huh, so how come the behavious afterwards vary?
<win8linux[m]>
Some will launch and exit normally, launch then fail to exit, or fail to launch properly at all.
<win8linux[m]>
* Some programs will launch
<win8linux[m]>
s/behavious/behaviours/
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<waddlesplash>
hmm, maybe not a VM problem then
<waddlesplash>
there's other deadlocks possible though
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<nephele>
n0toose[m]: yes you can, you should legally own it though if you dot hat
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<nephele>
is the € to $ Conversion rate targeted at countries using the euro? if so it should probably use the komma, not the dot to indicate fractions
<nephele>
from a glance it looks like 1€ = 1 million $ :)
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<phschafft>
$joke_about_how_worthless_the_USD_is
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* Skipp_OSX
cries
<andreasdr[m]>
realTaraHarris: Thank you!!!
<andreasdr[m]>
If you need some help with VK you can explore our VK renderer.
<andreasdr[m]>
I think that Haiku also looks very good in the screenshot <3
<Skipp_OSX>
I don't think it's a big deal that we use a decimal point instead of a comma because a decimal place is what is used in US English and we have enough problems getting that to work in DeskCalc :/