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<waddlesplash> nielx[m]: did you ever have any time to look into https://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/18825 ?
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<waddlesplash> soo... are Windows/NTFS xattrs not case-preserving?
<waddlesplash> at least WSL1's xattr APIs don't seem to preserve case, it's all lowercase
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<Begasus> g'morning peeps
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<LinuxUser> @Begasus hi!
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<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] augiedoggie pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/3a1d19741efe...a55ffa8eea56
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] augiedoggie a55ffa8 - grep: fix pcre support (#10481)
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<Calisto-Mathias> Hi
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<Calisto-Mathias> nephele, I tried everything that I could think of.. I tried creating symlinks in the ./lib as well as tried prepending the directories.. There is something missing at every step of the way... first it showed that libbe.so wasn't there then libroot.so then libgcc_s.so.1
<Calisto-Mathias> Am I doing something wrong or should I try compiling the entire source code one time?
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<LinuxUser> @Begasus i'm back\
<LinuxUser> back*
<augiedoggie> Calisto-Mathias: you created the lib directory in generated/objects/haiku/x86_64/release/apps/tracker/lib ?
<Begasus> wb LinuxUser
<Calisto-Mathias> yep
<augiedoggie> and the symlinks inside of it are valid? they point to actual files?
<Calisto-Mathias> augiedoggie i created it in that location and then i created the symlinks using ln -s
<Calisto-Mathias> when i did create a symlink to only the libtracker.so file it gave me an issue saying that Number12Format SetPrecision was not found and symbol not found error
<Calisto-Mathias> so I tried looking for that function and found it in the NumberFormat.h and NumberFormat.cpp files which are compiled under libbe.so so i created a symlink for that file as well in the same directory
<Calisto-Mathias> the symlink for libbe.so points to haiku/generated/objects/haiku/x86_64/release/kits/libbe.so
<augiedoggie> it runs now but you don't see the changes or it's still crashing?
<Calisto-Mathias> basically when I try to run the application using ./Tracker it just doesn't output anything to the console and gives me the option to type in a new command. Neither does anything on the desktop pop up again and I can't use alt+f to open the find panel either
<Calisto-Mathias> i tried creating the symlinks using both absolute paths as well as relative paths but both aren't working...
<Calisto-Mathias> if i remove the libbe.so symlink it crashes giving me the symbol not found error and if I include the libbe.so symlink, it doesn't run anything at all :(
<augiedoggie> so, i would just double check that it's actually stopped with `roster | grep Tracker` but i don't think that's the problem
<augiedoggie> my suggestion would be to upgrade to a nightly build of Haiku, iirc you said you were on beta4
<Calisto-Mathias> yup
<Calisto-Mathias> im on beta4
<Calisto-Mathias> so the best option is to re-install the nightly build on the system and then try right?
<augiedoggie> you can switch to a nightly without reinstalling
<Begasus> oh! trackpad works again (out of the blue) :P
<Calisto-Mathias> yes
<Calisto-Mathias> the same thing happened to me xD
<augiedoggie> there might be some information in /var/log/syslog about why it's not running too
<Calisto-Mathias> okay augiedoggie im switching to the nightly build now
<Calisto-Mathias> hopefully it works after that :)
<Calisto-Mathias> oh okay ill check that out as well
<Begasus> mostly from beta to nightly it's fine
<Begasus> from nightly to beta can be tricky (led me a few times to re-installing the system)
<augiedoggie> yeah, but a lot of your packages are compiled locally on your PC which means they depend on the newer hrev of Haiku
<augiedoggie> so, downgrading would be a big hassle for your
<augiedoggie> you*
<Begasus> right, but mostly it's Tracker crashing on launch here*
<Begasus> for the record, most of my packges are build on beta ;) (I hardly use nightlies, only in qemu these days)
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<Begasus> launched a build for LLVM17 yesterday on 32bit, maybe it's done by tomorrow
<Begasus> my guess there is that qt-creator relies on the cmake files while qt5 relies on llvm-config*
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<Calisto> Heyy
<Calisto> augiedoggie, do the nightlies only run on a few devices?
<augiedoggie> no, should be the same or more than the beta
<Calisto> I followed the steps on the link
<Calisto> But now it doesn't boot up haiku anymore :( it's just stuck on a dark screen? Is it issues with the installation?
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<augiedoggie> are you running Haiku in a virtual machine or on real hardware?
<Calisto> That I had on beta4?
<Calisto> Real hardware
<Calisto> Nota a VM
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<Calisto> It's running on a Dell Inspiron 15
<augiedoggie> were you booting with EFI or using older MBR?
<Calisto> EFI
<augiedoggie> you'll probably need to update the bootloader then
<augiedoggie> you should be able to boot the previous revision by holding space at boot and choosing the previous hrev
<Calisto> Basically whats happening is the haiku logo comes up and the loading symbols pop up... All get filled with the colors then it goes on an empty dark screen
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<Calisto> Okay I'll try that
<augiedoggie> if the older state boots then you'll have to extract the new bootloader manually since it won't be one of the active packages :/
<Calisto> Okay so in the bootloader it shows that it's on hrev56578+59
<Calisto> And gives me the options to select boot volume as the Haiku partition
<Calisto> And it says haiku: (current: latest state)
<augiedoggie> yeah, change that to the previous version
<Calisto> Okay so basically the 2024-05-28 07:09:47 edition? And it worked
<augiedoggie> you're booted into Haiku?
<Calisto> And now it booted so .. its on the nightly build now?
<augiedoggie> no, you're back to beta4
<Calisto> Aah :(
<augiedoggie> you need to find the updated haiku_loader.hpkg file and extract the newer bootloader
<augiedoggie> or boot from a newer live cd and then copy it from there
<augiedoggie> hold on a sec
<Calisto> Okayy ... My keyblard and trackpad don't work as well now :(
<Calisto> Would it be easier to reinstall a new ISO?
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<augiedoggie> http://0x0.st/XNHw.efi.zip here is a newer bootloader
<augiedoggie> you should be able to install it over the older one and then it should be able to boot either beta4 or nightly
<augiedoggie> you may need to rename the file too
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<Calisto> Okay i downloaded and replaced the EFI file
<Begasus> fingers crossed :)
<Calisto> Okay so even with the newer bootloader it still just gets stuck on a dark screen 🙁
<augiedoggie> hmm
<Calisto> Would this be easier if I reinstalled the haiku iso in mbr mode? Without EFI?
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<augiedoggie> one of these days Haiku will handle EFI properly :/
<Begasus> +1 (it's been a pain for quite some time yes, hence me not fidling with this install using EFI)
* augiedoggie needs to head off to bed
<Begasus> can I turn off trackpad again? :P
<Begasus> cu
<augiedoggie> he'll probably end up having to reinstall :(
<Begasus> hope he's using a seperate work partition
<augiedoggie> he can still boot into beta4, so it should be possible to save his work
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<augiedoggie> move it somewhere else while he reinstalls a nightly
<Begasus> yeah, good thing that he can still do that
<Begasus> people swear with trackpad, I hate that little bugger always getting in the way (when it works) :)
<augiedoggie> well, hopefully the beta still boots after he replaced the bootloader
<Begasus> heh
<augiedoggie> anyhow
<augiedoggie> cu later
<Begasus> cu!
<Begasus> 1400'sh object to go for LLVM :P
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<phschafft> Good morning/evening.
<Begasus> 'lo there phschafft
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<x512[m]> waddlesplash: Yeah, broken exceptions again... How I missed that ticket.
<x512[m]> I already experienced broken exceptions when working on RISC-V port.
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<HaikuUser> hi augiedoggie.. so i reinstalled everything... this time without a separate EFI partition and directly using the Haiku partition as an active partition
<HaikuUser> im doing pkgman full-sync now
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<CalistoMathias> Tho some of these packages are taking way too long in the validating checksum step :(
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<Calisto> Okay so the same issue persists even with no EFI partition and MBR boot on the Lenovo
<Calisto> Its stuck on the black screen again after the boot
<Calisto> So do I download the same file and replace a file again
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<Begasus> cool! Dolphin 24.05.0 fine again :D
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<Begasus> And Gwenview fine again too (me happy man) :D https://0x0.st/XNXC.0.png
<Begasus> about 500 objects to go for LLVM, getting there (slowly) :)
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<CalistoMathias> okayyy so I finally figured out what it was xD
<CalistoMathias> I have to boot it up under safe 4GB ram limitation mode and Safe Graphics mode if I want to use the nightly build
<Begasus> jikes
<CalistoMathias> finally xD
<Begasus> will downgrade some build time I guess
<CalistoMathias> okay now time to try and compile the Tracker Application again
<CalistoMathias> hopefully nothing comes in the way
<CalistoMathias> its on hrev57740
<Begasus> not crossing fingers now :P
<CalistoMathias> xD
<Begasus> guess it's time to start releasing KF6
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<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-0/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/a55ffa8eea56...d5a889f5d5f6
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus d5a889f - Add KF6 frameworks (#10482)
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<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus eb7f370 - Add KF6 frameworks, kcoreaddons6 (#10484)
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<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus e61b754 - Add KF6 frameworks, kcodecs6 (#10485)
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-0/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/e61b75490a05...1170e3b67349
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 1170e3b - Add KF6 frameworks, karchive6 (#10486)
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-0/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/1170e3b67349...318393acf797
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 318393a - Add KF6 frameworks, kwidgetsaddons6 (#10487)
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<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+2/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/318393acf797...633872bcb36a
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 633872b - Add KF6 frameworks, kguiaddons6 (fix for co-installable KF5 version) (#10488)
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-0/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/633872bcb36a...13c90821d900
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 13c9082 - Add KF6 frameworks, kcolorscheme6 (new) (#10489)
<zard> Whee! KF6, Begasus is coming for you!
<zard> Finally decided to set up ccache since WebKit likes building itself from scratch occasionally
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-0/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/13c90821d900...d5ff767fda2f
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus d5ff767 - Add KF6 frameworks, kconfigwidgets6 (#10490)
<Begasus> :) and build speed up zard?
<zard> Not yet. It's an investment ;)
<Begasus> yeah, needs to fill before you can take advantage of it
<Begasus> afk for a bit
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<CalistoMathias> Heyyy.... what version of python should I install... i was finally able to clone everything and want to check out whether Tracker finally compiles. While running ./configure, its giving me the error that no python interpreter exists.
<CalistoMathias> I have no idea why its giving me that error since it never popped up...
<CalistoMathias> This is on the nightly install by the way (hrev57740)... I also did try running pkgman sync-full to check whether everything was up to date
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<zard> Strange... I don't think the version matters, latest should be fine.
<CalistoMathias> yup I checked by running pkgman install python3.9 and it is already installed
<zard> Ok, got the error? (If it's large, put it in a pastebin such as https://bpa.st/ and only paste the link)
<CalistoMathias> nevermind I found a solution to it... it was just cuz python wasn't invoking hte python compiler
<CalistoMathias> while python3.9 was
<CalistoMathias> so in the configure script, i just added the condition to include python3.9 and it configured successfully
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<zard> +1 :)
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<Begasus> CalistoMathias, python3.10 is the default at the moment, that should work?
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<CalistoMathias> nephele, augiedoggie, Begasus, zard... Thanks to all of you for all the help you guys :) Tracker finally compiles as expected and I can see changes to the Find Panel as well.
<CalistoMathias> I will probably keep the process noted down for later xD in case I ever need to run this on a separate laptop
<zard> Woot!
<CalistoMathias> :D
<Begasus> nice CalistoMathias!!
<zard> If you ever get the time, you could make a blog post ;) (maybe leaving off the Python hack, since that will likely be fixed)
<CalistoMathias> yah I was just thinking that I should probably do that
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<Begasus> +1
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<CalistoMathias> yup I'll probably just add it to my blog section after I make my first push
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<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-0/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/d5ff767fda2f...0dc7cdf741d5
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 0dc7cdf - Add KF6 frameworks, kdoctools6 (#10491)
<Begasus> moving forward :)
<B2IA> (Shaka) looks like beshare.tycomsystems.com is back
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<waddlesplash> CalistoMathias: you probably only need the safe mode graphics option not the memory limit
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<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus d2af71d - Add KF6 frameworks, kdbusaddons6 (#10495)
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<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-0/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/b5a24cb3970b...3929a97994fd
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 3929a97 - Add KF6 frameworks, kauth6 (#10500)
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] korli pushed 1 commit to master [+5/-5/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/3929a97994fd...b5a666263544
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] korli b5a6662 - qt5: bump version
<Begasus> maybe someone could silense botifico for a bit :)
<Begasus> or not * :)
<Begasus> Guess I'll continue tomorrow when Qt5 is finished
<nosycat> Like in the old days when mainframes ran batch jobs. :P
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<Begasus> I guess they needed a job first nosycat :)
<Begasus> have to figure out how to rebase my branch for Qt5 once I'm finished with the KF6 recipes and local checks on 32bit
<phschafft> I'm always feeling like jobs are a much nicer way to work with a computer. maybe I should put that on the item list for my next meeting with nephele.
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<Begasus> Korli is "tha" master :)
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<zard> WebKit decided to recompile everything again. Ccache should now be paying off. We'll see
<zard> bbl. If it's done compiling when I come back, ccache will have definitely have made a difference
<nephele> sadly the headers trick webkit does also makes ccache less usefull
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<Begasus> Hi jmairboeck
<jmairboeck> Hi Begasus
<Begasus> not touching the doc directory for now, maybe on a next version bump :)
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<jmairboeck> it is probably not so easy, CMake can be complex :)
<Begasus> yeah, hence not looking into that atm, been busy on KF6 for over a half year, no secrets there so far :)
<Begasus> I "think" I can finalize LLVM packaging on 32bit now, crossing fingers
<Begasus> hope llvm-config produces the correct info now
<Begasus> looks like I need to clean ~/.ccache again :) https://0x0.st/XNb-.0.png
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<zard> re. You can change the ccache directory's max size
<zard> ccache doesn't appear to be making a big difference for WebKit :/
<zard> Just change max_size in ~/.ccache/ccache.conf!
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<Begasus> thanks on that pointer zard! mostly I just nuke it when I feel like it :)
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<Begasus> ䷢
<Begasus> that works :)
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 68f76d61d74f - libroot_build: Add a "hex-encoded attribute names" mode.
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 2 commits to master [hrev57742] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=560f1681fa3e+%5E68f76d61d74f
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 85ae477c419a - libroot: Remove obsolete comment in fs_attr implementation.
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 560f1681fa3e - listattr: Needs <time.h>.
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 2 commits to master [hrev57743] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=45383846d8d9+%5E560f1681fa3e
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] e08f7fd12b9a - kernel/vfs: Slight refactor to F_SETFL to reduce duplication.
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 45383846d8d9 - kernel/fs: Translate ioctl(FIONBIO) into fcntl(F_SETFL).
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<Begasus> closing down here, saving resources for rebuild LLVM on 64bit, cu peeps!
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 2 commits to master [hrev57744] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=6b99b20692bc+%5E45383846d8d9
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 0c84b78dd333 - ftpd: Synchronize with FreeBSD 13.3.
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 6b99b20692bc - telnet: Synchronize with FreeBSD 13.3.
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] d12b3a0e1d08 - kernel/socket: Allow the network stack to be unloaded on KDEBUG kernels.
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 56c68782589c - kernel/vm: Add sanity check for page_num in "page" KDL command.
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