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<Calisto>
Hey
<Begasus>
Hi Calisto
<Calisto>
Hi Begasus
<Calisto>
how are you?
<Begasus>
Fine here Calisto, finetuning the KDE KF6 frameworks to be on par with upstream build system
<Begasus>
How's it going there?
<Calisto>
Wow that's something I didn't understand at all xD
<Begasus[m]>
heh :)
<Calisto>
My blog post went up today I guess
<Calisto>
and now I'm looking at some alternatives
<Begasus[m]>
it's the thing that thrives the KDE applications :)
<Calisto>
for Query Incremental Searches
<Begasus[m]>
think I saw qomething passing by in the ML, haven't checked the forum yet
<Calisto>
But for now, I'm only able to find one way of doing it on Haiku and that's by clearing the entire Query item as well ...
<Calisto>
trying to look for other thingis
<Calisto>
hopefully something pops up soon xD
<Begasus[m]>
now that's something I'm not aware of :)
<Calisto>
and hearing dune music xD
<Calisto>
but that's pretty much it
<Calisto>
Have to decide on how to track code updates
<Begasus[m]>
relaxing music then :)
<Calisto>
what do you think is the best way for my project to do it?
<Calisto>
my changes can't be directly integrated into Haiku
<Calisto>
until the project is completely over
<Calisto>
I was thinking maybe maintaining a separate repo on GitHub till it can be integrated into Haiku?
<Begasus[m]>
no clue there, I probably only see those changes if they are merged into the source :)
<Calisto>
yup
<Begasus[m]>
yeah, dalme(?) does the same for nvvm iirc
<Calisto>
That's exactly what we were going to decide for the GSoC project... because as of now.. I don't think I will be able to merge much stuff directly into Haiku's source code. So I was thinking of making a separate repo.. working on that and then merging to Haiku when there is a change that can be done
<Calisto>
Yup I saw that today on the website
<Begasus[m]>
got a seperate repo at codeberg for the KF6 changes for now for that too
<Calisto>
I think Nielx was also finding the best way. I'll connect with him soon and see whether we can do the GitHub thing for now instead
<Calisto>
Most of my changes only concern 2 files at the moment I think
<Begasus[m]>
for me, I got a working repo for haikuports, one forked one for keeping on par with upstream and to push my branches to, and now one for the KF6 frameeworks
<Begasus[m]>
not counting the other ones I have around to create PR upstream ;)
<nekobot>
[haiku/haiku] 446ff222afaf - Tracker: search for the localized decimal separator
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<diver1>
hi Begasus[m] just curious when are you going to push KF6 to haikuports?
<PulkoMandy>
Calisto: is there a reason to use github? you could work in haiku repo in a branch. Or it could be merged but not enabled by default. Or it could be merged and end up in nightlies and people can then test it while you work on it
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<PulkoMandy>
I'm asking because in past times where we did things in separate github repos, it tends to never be merged at all (we still have one gsoc 2014 project in that state...)
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<Begasus>
hi diver, wasn't yet sure if I would push them
<Begasus>
but since there is qt5/qt6, I guess we can go kf5/kf6 too :)
<Begasus>
atleast for some of the applications, they switch to kf6, so kf5 will see the eol there
<Begasus>
still missing one big puzzle :) (qt6webengine)
<Begasus>
fyi, I've installed KDE Neon on one of the spare laptops and did a build for the frameworks there, now following the build process (order) they are doing upstream, looks like some of our recipes got dependencies in there that shouldn't be in there, so cleaning those out atm
<Calisto>
PulkoMandy, actually we haven't yet decided how to like go ahead but if its possible to do it directly on Haiku repos then that would be much better
<PulkoMandy>
yes, seems simple enough, we can create a new branch there (say dev-newquery) and you can push your changes for review to refs/for/dev-newquery instead of refs/for/master
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<zard>
CMAKE_CXX_DEBUG_FLAGS should be CMAKE_CXX_FLAGS_DEBUG. Oh, them typos
<rennj>
destroyer of worlds
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<Anarchos>
nobody has experience in ACPI drivers ?
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<PulkoMandy>
Anarchos, I modifed the ACPI display driver a little recently
<PulkoMandy>
I don't know if that counts as experience
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<Anarchos>
PulkoMandy: i wonder if i (or seomeone else) would be able to do a driver for my ACPI accelerometer...
<PulkoMandy>
why not? ACPI drivers are usually quite high level, no direct hardware programming, just call functions from ACPICA through our ACPI module, so it should be easier than other drivers I think
<PulkoMandy>
(but then, my attempt with the display driver ends with my hardware/BIOS apparently not doing things as explained in the ACPI specifications :( )
<Anarchos>
PulkoMandy: i know there is an ACPI accelerometer in my netbook, but i can't find more info (vendor/specs...) and ACPI is full of "_XYG" garbage...
<PulkoMandy>
well, if you don't have specifications, you'll have to try understanding it, maybe from an existing driver in another OS?
<Anarchos>
PulkoMandy: with lisdev i am used to get vendor_id/ hardware id. But with ACPI i don't know how to get information on the hardware connected to the ACPI bus (if it means something to talk about an ACPI bus)
<PulkoMandy>
it's not in listdev but it's in Devices preferences
<PulkoMandy>
for example the display driver https://review.haiku-os.org/c/haiku/+/5158 looks for nodes that implement the _DOD and _DOS methods (display_adapter.cpp line 166)
<Anarchos>
PulkoMandy: where do i find the list of _XXX ACPI methods ?
<PulkoMandy>
I don't think there is a single list. The ACPI specification lists some standard ones, but I think not everything is standard
<Anarchos>
i saw we have a dumpacpi lor listacpi command to get its content.
<sg94>
hey all, anyone boot haiku on a Framework 13 (AMD 7640U Specifically)? Seems to just go to black screen and crashes instantly. No Logo or Menu when you hold spacebar
<augiedoggie>
is Haiku already installed or are you trying to boot the live image?
<augiedoggie>
my guess would be something with the EFI, maybe the CSM options need to be turned off or on in the settings
<sg94>
Tried bothways, put in an SSD with Haiku and when that didn't work tried a fresh nightly image on a USB stick
<sg94>
Disabled Secure boot but haven't played with much else i'll look in to that
<augiedoggie>
the ssd was set up for efi boot?
<sg94>
yeah
<augiedoggie>
hard to say, but i know the CSM options can vary by machine, mine needs to have them all turned off in order to boot Haiku
<augiedoggie>
i've seen others say they need them on
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<Begasus>
done, 70 recipes cleaned up and should be good to go :)
<augiedoggie>
part of the main recipe should be fine
<Begasus>
or that (haven't looked at it really)
<jmairboeck>
I thought I package it separately because then I can add a secondaryArch version easier without making the main recipe too complicated.
<augiedoggie>
it shouldn't need to be very complex
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<jmairboeck>
There is no point in having the app itself twice (or the tracker addons which I forgot in the initial version last week)
<jmairboeck>
so it would need some if [ -n $secondaryArchSuffix ] blocks to avoid that
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<rennj>
use the source luke!
<Begasus>
without checking it out, does it build for secondary arch too (on 32bit)?
<rennj>
ports/recipes and pkgs...binary pkgs the more the better..
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<jmairboeck>
it builds with gcc13 on x86_64, so I would assume yes
<Begasus>
if so why not just use that ? (don't think it's used as some kind of add-on?)
<jmairboeck>
I haven't checked that yet, but if I understand the source correctly, the apps can also be used as Tracker add-ons
<Begasus>
maybe check there first then :)
<Begasus>
getting late here, time to close down
* augiedoggie
would probably just drop the secondary arch support
<rennj>
32bit is dead jim?
<jmairboeck>
augiedoggie: did you mean gcc2? currently the recipe is all primary only :)
<augiedoggie>
i wouldn't bother with a gcc13 version
<augiedoggie>
on 32 bit
<Begasus>
closing down here, cu peeps!
<jmairboeck>
ah, ok
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<augiedoggie>
it's unlikely anyone is going to use that library in new projects IMO
<jmairboeck>
PulkoMandy suggested adding a _devel package for it last week ...
<augiedoggie>
yeah, it should probably either have a devel package or no devel stuff included at all
<augiedoggie>
i just don't see it being used for new development
<jmairboeck>
it doesn't have any devel stuff right now, just the libraries, which are needed at runtime
<augiedoggie>
if there's no devel stuff then it should be part of the main package though
<augiedoggie>
no other apps use it
<augiedoggie>
the lib package would only be useful to the base package and nothing else
<jmairboeck>
ok, then I don't create a separate lib package. If anyone needs it, the library can now be built standalone at least. There was already a Makefile for it but it was broken.
<rennj>
pkg-dev1, pkg-dev2, whats the harm of having more binary pkgs with more bits, user choice...ports vs pkg.
<rennj>
as long as compile from source always works,
<rennj>
same deal on linux, need the dev bits for certain compiles
<rennj>
dev version bleeding edge..
<rennj>
amiga mui developer version you want to hack on mui..version user verision
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* rennj
spins penelope scott rät
<rennj>
I come from scientists and atheists and white men who kill God, They make technology high quality complex physiological.
* rennj
spins Bo Burnham - Welcome To The Internet
<gordonjcp>
I am currently spinning The Beastie Boys - Hello Nasty
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<rennj>
root down!
<rennj>
wait even better is when beastie boys use pink floyd pompai speakers in their video
<rennj>
beastie boys - gratitude
<rennj>
pink floyd speakers!
<rennj>
pink floyd - echoes
<rennj>
live in Pompei
<rennj>
those speakers would be used later in beastie boys - gratitude
<rennj>
echoes is good tune...
<rennj>
youtube ftw
<rennj>
Amphitheatre of Pompeii with no audience for Live at Pompeii,