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<HaikuUser>
hi
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<augiedoggie>
hello
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<HaikuUser>
hi
<HaikuUser>
I have registered in nickserv as san2ban...my name is not being shown
<augiedoggie>
you have to configure vision to use that nick
<HaikuUser>
but, it does not asjk me for any details
<nosycat>
It has an account setting dialog.
<HaikuUser>
I will look again
<nosycat>
You can also just use the /nick command for now.
<HaikuUser>
in network, preferences..there is nothing wrt account setup
<HaikuUser>
usually, onlinux, i use liberachat
<nosycat>
I just closed my netbook so can't check right now.
<nosycat>
But I configured Vision a while ago. It has all the usual options.
<nosycat>
Look under servers.
<nosycat>
Since there aren't any accounts as such in IRC.
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<HaikuUser>
hi
<nosycat>
o/
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<Begasus>
low
<nosycat>
\o
<HaikuUser>
hi
<Begasus>
Hi HaikuUser
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<HaikuUser>
begasus, san2ban here
<Begasus>
yeah, thought so :)
<HaikuUser>
struggling to get my name displayed
<Begasus>
tried "/nick san2ban"?
<HaikuUser>
in vision settings? or here?
<Begasus>
here, in the field you just typed in
<HaikuUser>
it is saying san2ban already in use
<Begasus>
[16:24] *** san2ban (~vision@157.50.64.33) has joined the channel
<Begasus>
that's you :)
<HaikuUser>
but it shows as Haikuuser for me
<Begasus>
do you have another IRC client open?
<HaikuUser>
no
<HaikuUser>
hi
<Begasus>
registered nick?
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<HaikuUser>
san2ban
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<HaikuUser>
on linux, I use Hexchat, connect via liberachat
<Begasus>
you're logged in on through a matrix client also
<nosycat>
I'm confused. This room is on OFTC.
<Begasus>
mostly they show up with [m]
<HaikuUser>
yes..default is oftc
<nosycat>
There's one on Libera, too?
<Begasus>
a bit of a weird setup I guess :)
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<Begasus>
you could try "/ns ghost san2ban <pswd>" iirc
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<san2ban>
hi
<nosycat>
Success!
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<san2ban>
Begasus, every time from now onwards should I use the commandyou suggested?
<nosycat>
At least until you find the network settings in Vision.
<Begasus>
no, if you are not logged in you should setup Vision with the right user, I only use it when I got stuck and my nick is still registered in the channel
<nosycat>
They're not so different from HexChat's, really.
<Begasus>
right
<san2ban>
but, on vision, there is nothing to log on with my account
<san2ban>
Begasus, thanks for your support...I need to change my desktop backround periodically...like a different image every 30 seconds, is it possible? right now, I have to manually change the background, when I feel like it
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<Begasus>
"need" to san2ban?
<Begasus>
I only switch Desktop background going from daylight to evening :)
<san2ban>
Begasus,..just for kicks
<Begasus>
there has been some script mentioned in the forum iirc
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<san2ban>
like we do on Windows, linux
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<Begasus>
I'm not :P
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<Begasus>
k, so I can create a *.arj archive in Ark, but can't open it with any, no support for that it seems? ;)
<nosycat>
Odd. And it's been a looong while since I used KDE in any capacity.
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<Begasus>
Looks like even Expander isn't shown in the list
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<nosycat>
Now that's weird.
<Begasus>
*.lzma also not showing up in "Open with..."
<nosycat>
Sounds like some mime types are missing?
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<Begasus>
getting tired of this github *** at the forum :/
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<nosycat>
Eep?!
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<Begasus>
if you don't like it, don't use it and move on ...
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<nosycat>
Ah, found it. Okay, but that means missed contributions.
<nosycat>
Especially coming from nephele, not some rando.
<Begasus>
I know there, and am fine with that, but then other still feel a need to hammer on it ...
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<PetePEET>
My dudes... It's been a while since I've done this so I've forgotten how to do it smoothly
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<PetePEET>
How do I move my stuff from my old install to a new one? The reason I ask is my old drive is dying and will not even boot. It still shows up however in linux. I'm about to see if it's readable in Haiku
<PetePEET>
if it is, I will reinstall on a new usb device. Once that's done, How do I move my stuff? Is it just the home folder? That can't be right because I have a lot of stuff installed...
<PetePEET>
Please to be helping. Thank you kindly sirs
<augiedoggie>
if the disk is still readable then you can just run the Installer app and it will copy data & settings
<augiedoggie>
using the old disk as the source drive
<PetePEET>
So boot the installer, and use old drive as source?
<augiedoggie>
yes
<PetePEET>
I really appreciate it. Thanks man
<augiedoggie>
good luck
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<PetePEET>
haha
<PetePEET>
That always reminds me of Samurai Champloo when the peddler sells them passports and they ask, "are these genuine?" and he says, "sure they are! I'll even throw in these good luck charms!"
<augiedoggie>
heh
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<pete>
is there any way to just fix the bootloader on an install?
<augiedoggie>
depends on what's wrong with the bootloader
<pete>
Possible to just reinstall the bootloader?
<augiedoggie>
if you need a new totally new bootsector, there is a "Tools" menu in the installer that has one, once the target disk has been set
<pete>
IPray that it doesn't wipe my installation :(
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<pete>
I tried reinstalling but it won't allow me to choose my old drive as the source
<pete>
it's greyed out as an option
<pete>
and I have the WEIRDEST probem from the get go:
<pete>
my installed system doesn't boot, but If I plug in the installer AND my old drive, it boots into my old drive.
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<pete>
And then it gets even weirder....
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<pete>
The installer is just an iso burned to a usb drive right? Well, once I boot both drives together as stated above, then, booting ONLY the installer takes me to a haiku destop (a fresh one) WITHOUT the installer.
<pete>
How can the iso usb even be modified???
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<pete>
I have to dd the usb with the haiku iso again just to get back to the installer
<pete>
I wish you guys could see it. It's crazy
<augiedoggie>
the installer is just an app, you can run it from the Applications menu
<augiedoggie>
and the usb images aren't pure iso, they're anyboot disk images
<pete>
Hm.. I wonder why it fails to load after the first time I boot the drive
<pete>
AH....
<pete>
You have restored my sanity
<pete>
I thought some crazy gremlin was in my computer
<pete>
but I wonder why I cannot choose my old install as the source disk?
<pete>
I'll just try reinstalling the boot loader. If it wipres out my system then oh well I guess
<augiedoggie>
not sure about that, maybe the partition type got messed up
<pete>
I worked so hard to get that dark theme installed :( I have no idea how I got it to work :(
<pete>
Wait.. what If I just installed to a fresh disk, then rsynced everything from the old drive to the new one?
<pete>
Is there anything like fstab in linux that I need to keep?
<pete>
Or... perhaps I can boot the two disks, causing my old one to boot, then run the installer from my old disk
<pete>
Here we go. Goodbye antix linux on this machine
<pete>
I actually love the install technology in Haiku. It's so sensible. I do something similar in Linux: instead of respinning install isos, I build a system, sanitize it and clone it to redeploy on as many systems as I want
<pete>
I have my image down to 2.9GB.
<pete>
That's about the size of the installer iso
<Begasus>
closing down
<Begasus>
cu peeps!
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<pete>
Something seems to be working...
<pete>
Well I cant haiku to boot no matter what I do
<pete>
I cleared the boot sector with dd (first 512k) and reformatted with beos and installed. still get "no boot device"
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<pete>
Good LORD... GPT is as annoying as uefi or Windows update
<pete>
had to use gdisk to wipe the first AND last sectors so I could reinitilaize a disk
<pete>
Got my install working though. Thanks again augiedoggie
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<pete>
moving to a fresh usb drive as we speak
<nephele>
what's that to do with GPT? it sounds like a bug in whatever tool you were using
<nephele>
backup sector is a feature not a bug ;)
<pete>
nephele: nope.
<pete>
doesn't matter what tool you use, if you don't zap both signatures, it persists and causes problems
<pete>
not ith all installers/partition editors, but with a lot (like Haiku)
<nephele>
What tool *did* you use?
<pete>
Haiku's partition editor and installer for one.
<nephele>
DiskFormat? and that did not properly delete both gpt tables?
<pete>
Also gparted and gnome-disks
<nephele>
Well, file a bug. the tool is broken then :)
<nephele>
that's not gpt beeing bad but DriveFormat misbehaving
<pete>
I see what you're saying but gpt is annoying as hell
<pete>
I've had to use gdisk to wipe both signatures in the past for other OS installs
<pete>
also, a lot of disks come formatted with zfs (new disks that were tested and sold as open box for example, with almost no hours of service in the logs)
<pete>
and you cannot use them until you kill both signatures. Windows won't recognize them, Linux won't recognize them
<nephele>
what do you mean they come with zfs? someone added them to a pool? zfs does not technically require partitions but it will use them
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<nephele>
linux absolutely can recognize zfs
<pete>
They were formated with zfs
<pete>
I believe the people testing them add thm to pools, yes. That probabyl makes their job faster and easier
<pete>
ironically, I used a lot of those disks for zpools in the end
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<nephele>
Well, my personal experience has been that if all operating systems fail with their file system support... FreeBSD will still do it easily
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<nephele>
barring the control chip beeing literally broken of course :)
<pete>
nephele: indeed
<nephele>
on a fun side note i do have a usb drive that became RO and can now only install freebsd
<pete>
nephele: the only other tool I know of that absolutely destroys a desk layout and makes it new again is a freebsd tool. What's it called?
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<nephele>
don't know on the top of my head. I assume you don't mean cp /dev/zero though :)
<nephele>
you mean freebsd's own commandline disk formatting util?
<pete>
maybe im thinking of gpart destroy
<nephele>
Yes, seems likely
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<nephele>
gpart is one of those incredibly good tools
<nephele>
makes you really miss it on other OS
<pete>
I used to keep a copy of GhostBSG JUST for that task
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<nephele>
should make a EFI rescue system image with a FreeBSD base, and package it as a efi image :)
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<nephele>
put it in your ESP, feel happy if you need it xD
<pete>
I remember mumbling curse words in my head like, "oh you mother!@#!#$ I'mbouta boot BSD right now and wipe the !@#$% outta you !@$@#%"
<nephele>
anyway, if you can recreate the specific bug (Haiku DriveSetup not wiping correctly) would be nice to file it#
<pete>
I'll think about it
<pete>
I know it would be helpful
<pete>
I wish Haiku worked on my fujitsu. Bad screen (lines and distortion)
<nephele>
wrong timing?
<pete>
Seems something like that
<nephele>
I had that on one screen and it went away when i increased the refresh rate to 75hz
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<pete>
Well doggone... I didn't think refresh rate would solve it. Lemme give it a go
<pete>
Booting back in
<nephele>
I think in my case it may be related to displayport adaptive sync (or the lack of it in haiku)
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<pete>
Meh.. only worse options to be honest (flickering and craziness
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<nephele>
oh well, worth a shot :/
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<pete>
The oly hardware it will run on reliably is an old toshiba. Runs perfectly though
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<coolcoder613_32>
Good morning
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