<rennj>
we believe that attempting to audit and secure all possible channels in a modern web browser is infeasible.
<rennj>
damn straight
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<rennj>
the presence of clocks opens covert channels.
<rennj>
time!
<rennj>
a tower of babel was built
<rennj>
You win again, Gravity!
<rennj>
--Zapp Brannigan
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<rennj>
evil maid steal my laptop...
<rennj>
seperate the os from the data
<rennj>
immutable/ram-os and disposable vm's..
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<rennj>
Sat May 18 00:03:55 PDT 2024
<rennj>
Saturday morning cartoons!
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<Begasus>
Happy 13th birthday to our first litter pups (most passed by now), our Kiyana from this litter is celebrating her birthday still with us :) https://0x0.st/XPmQ.jpg
<botifico>
[haiku/website] leavengood 0ab2640 - Add a news item for the 2023 financial report
<rennj>
so your puppy mill is closed down Begasus ?
<rennj>
perhaps some pitbulls, so popular in vegas
<rennj>
unleashed pitbull and i got to ride my bicycle around it
<rennj>
gang banging thugs of course, dont care
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<rennj>
public parks with other dogs and kids. i saw so much stupid in vegas
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* augiedoggie
thinks someone needs +m (or +b) on their account
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<rennj>
Begasus, is well awear of my opinions on dogs
<rennj>
grow up
<Begasus>
doesn't reflect my character, nor my dogs .
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<augiedoggie>
you're almost always off-topic, you give bad or confusing answers to new users to the channel, you're frequently rude and argumentative
<augiedoggie>
i stand by my statement, i'd like to see you have +m
* phschafft
gets some popcorn. also wonders if augiedoggie feels the same about him as well.
<augiedoggie>
no, you don't go on late-night off topic rants for a few hours for one thing
<Begasus>
at least you hand out some coookies phschafft :)
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<rennj>
bad or confusing answers ? to what. next you point it out
<rennj>
next time i give confusing answer? please point it out
<rennj>
because when it comes to computer science. im very much on topic
<rennj>
as for argumentative, so what ?
<rennj>
that wifi max foo other day was to confusinng for you?
<rennj>
or was nis nis ad/ldap foo? nsswitch.conf ?
<augiedoggie>
you're proving my point right now
<rennj>
not my problem, you dont understand me.
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<phschafft>
rennj: and exactly that is the point. this is a chat. it's about doing your very best to solve the problems of the other people. may that be technical or social.
<phschafft>
so if someone feels like communication could be better, take that from them and make it your problem to solve.
<rennj>
i pasted the answer the other night to matrix users mac addreess hackery did i not? please point to anyone else chiming in?
<phschafft>
if everyone tries a bit, it's much smoother ride for all.
<rennj>
if there was something wrong with answer, please point it out next time
<Begasus>
k, qt5 build done ...
<rennj>
oh the /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow files and vipw, that was classic, why i had to get into nis nis+ ad/ldap talk
<rennj>
how do i fix my password? and went into great detail
<rennj>
please chime in nexttime then
<rennj>
cause you know booting a livecd and mounting rootfs /etc and fixing with vi, well that way is just too radical
<phschafft>
rennj: as per your request: you're doing it right now. ;)
<rennj>
no im explaining, attack the person or the argument
<rennj>
personal attacks meh, lots of nasty people around like ive said before
<rennj>
i try to stay on computer science topics..
<rennj>
i think it funny most of time..haha
<rennj>
the blind leading the blind
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<Begasus>
getting rid of icu66 will be hard, most of the stuff linked/build against Qt5 still pulls it in it seems
<Begasus>
or at least some of those core parts
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<Begasus>
rennj, your opinion on dogs interest doesn't bother me, you accusing me is another thing
<rennj>
my term "puppy mill" is what you dont like
<rennj>
heh
<Begasus>
and "that's" a personal attack
<rennj>
dog breading then
<rennj>
dog breader or puppy mill..just different ways of looking at it
<rennj>
all i asked was are you done with it, or plan on doing more?
<rennj>
ive said it to you before couple years ago also..
<Begasus>
yeah, been there done that, you clearly don't understand the difference, done with it .
<rennj>
lots of money $$ in it
* phschafft
needed to look up the term, was expecting something different.
<Begasus>
cleaner.moc:12:10: fatal error: QtCore/qtmochelpers.h: No such file or directory (not a good idea, or something missing) :P
<rennj>
android sdk/ndk using qemu is just more bloated way..do the same
<rennj>
if i want android on craptop screen, scrcpy and adb cli tools way smaller then doing sdk/ndk qemu route
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<rennj>
or try kdeconnect was other choice..
<Begasus>
that doesn't do anything on Haiku's side (but haven't checked in Neon yet)
<Begasus>
k, food ...
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<rennj>
nosycat, reduce reuse recycle, 2008 you got your ROI/TCO out of that computer.
<nosycat>
Not personally, I only had it for five years. It's a refurb.
<rennj>
2016-2023 my amd 4core craptop did me well.
<phschafft>
nosycat++
<nosycat>
That's plenty of time.
<rennj>
$10,000.00 for 1 sun sparc 5 box, 3 years of use, and replaced. terrible roi/tco.
<rennj>
and i had 500 of them
<phschafft>
I got my business laptop in 2015, it's also refurbished. don't know how old it really is. but I really don't see the end of it's lifetime yet. it does it's job with lot's of resources to spare.
<nosycat>
Nice! I'm not sure how this machine will fare with Linux getting more bloated.
<nosycat>
Got plans though.
<nosycat>
Will see.
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<phschafft>
my desktop only got recently updated to 16GB of RAM (from 8GB) as one of our android projects failed to build with 8GB of RAM.
<phschafft>
and the RAM is also from another coworker, so an inner-company swap :)
<rennj>
your going to need a bigger boat!.. i need bigger ssd
<rennj>
2TB i should have bought
<rennj>
30 5GB files.
<rennj>
GPT4 costs $60.00 / 1M tokens
<rennj>
have it read in beos bible, beos programing book, and bfs book.
<rennj>
source code to haiku..
<rennj>
then you can interact with it..
<rennj>
way over 1M tokens for sure
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<rennj>
pseudo neural network/synapses for doing nlp has already been trained at the cost of tons of cpu/power/cooling.and the whole internet of human data being hoovered up. download trained model, feed in your data, interact with it. smarter then most humans i bet.
<gordonjcp>
AI is bunk
<gordonjcp>
it's just an Eliza bot with a big dataset
<rennj>
We did the back-of-napkin math on what ramping up this experiment to the entire brain would cost, and the scale is impossibly large .. 1.6 zettabytes of storage costing $50 billion and spanning 140 acres, making it the largest data center on the planet.
<rennj>
augiedoggie, anything to say?
<rennj>
AI is not bunk, its another tool in toolbox..
<rennj>
vision,audio,reading those neural networks trained ..
<rennj>
understanding human langauge
<rennj>
The Diamond Age: Or, A Young Lady's Illustrated Primer
<rennj>
little kid with crapple tablet
<rennj>
better then teachers
<rennj>
Sal Khan - khan academy, in your pocket
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<rennj>
gordonjcp i agree with you that it doesnt really understand anything. just pseudo mimic neural network.. like vision, or audio, or txt to speech, speech to txt subtitle. no to be or not to be, i think, therefore i am.