<waddlesplash>
hmm interestingly it's not listed there
<piusbird>
well the version that will exist as part of my reader thing.. will have to do much more heavy lifting eventually so it's not a total waste of time
<piusbird>
thus explaining how i missed it
<Begasus>
k, for onnxruntime I'll leave the code fixing to others :)
<piusbird>
waddlesplash, yeah the whole documentation could use an update. I found errors in the BClipboard docs pretaining to types
<waddlesplash>
depends on which docs you are looking at
<waddlesplash>
the Be Book is more complete but outdated since it's from BeOS
<waddlesplash>
the Haiku Book is our documentation, but isn't complete
<piusbird>
Haiku os api docs
<waddlesplash>
reading the headers is highly recommended
<piusbird>
ok
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<MonniTheCat>
<coolcoder613> "It looks nice, but Electron? for..." <- People are too lazy to learn proper programming languages… Big software companies even encourage developers to use unnecessary frameworks.
<zard>
Hello coolcoder613, MonniTheCat :)
<coolcoder613>
Hi zard!
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<Yoke>
electron is the modern flash, (I mean in the way both end up incredibly mediocre)
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<MonniTheCat>
I’ve been following one GitHub user that writes so bad code that every single character is literally own repository…😂
<coolcoder613>
Recently I've been running quite a few local AI things, Ollama+Open WebUI (llama-3.1-8B is quite nice for roleplay), fish TTS, and today, stable diffusion.
<coolcoder613>
MonniTheCat: Please tell me I misunderstood you, or your exaggerating.
<coolcoder613>
*you're
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<coolcoder613>
You don't mean character as in unicode character, do you?
<MonniTheCat>
coolcoder613: Character as in a-z
<coolcoder613>
What do you mean by by every single character is it's own repository? Is this user just very bad at naming things?
<Anarchos1>
MonniTheCat oh please give us his repo URL !!
<MonniTheCat>
Anarchos1: Some of the worst repositories are private, but her GitHub username is tnarla…
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<coolcoder613>
MonniTheCat: I don't see anything like that...
<Begasus>
'lo zard Yoke
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<MonniTheCat>
<coolcoder613> "Mika Lindqvist: I don't see..." <- You can just google npmjs @characters/a and similar to see the packages that the GitHub username used…
<zard>
Hint from the readme: mcface('boat') returns "Boaty McBoatface"
<zard>
I would argue this is excellent, future-proof design. If the code point for any of the ASCII characters changes, this user won't have to change any of their code! \s
<Anarchos2>
zard this website exists for more than 20y with same 1 liner source code : http://perdu.com/
<MonniTheCat>
Almost as useful as pinging 0.0.0.0 to get own IP address...
<zard>
Nice. I've seen another website that has zero lines when you press "View Source"
<zard>
Too bad it evades my search skills
<Anarchos2>
zard how can they do a site with 0 source lines ?
<zard>
There's a header in HTTP that lets you specify a stylesheet to load
<zard>
Then, you can use the stylesheet to put some limited amount of content in
* zard
tries to find it a bit more
<MonniTheCat>
::before and ::after are quite useful CSS keywords...
<Anarchos2>
MonniTheCat i never use them at work :)
<zard>
The example does take advantage of those
<Anarchos2>
MonniTheCat but you know, i work as a website engineer and i am very bad at HTML/JS/CSS ...
<MonniTheCat>
Anarchos2: I've been janitor, electrical safety inspector and a cook, never a professional developer ;)
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<zard>
Looks like the site I was looking for was https://therickroll.com. Alas, it no longer works
<OscarL>
mmm, Tracker crashed, and after it restarted, Drill-down menu shows my "Data1" volume two times under "Desktop" :-/
<OscarL>
I see the problem now (is not related to the crash).
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<OscarL>
I have a "Data1" symlink in ~/Desktop (I use "Show Disks Icon" mode), so the context menu is showing that, along the rest of "show volumes" that Tracker does on that menu. Thus the "duplicate".
<OscarL>
mmm, but I also have a RAMFS mount, and a symlink to that, and "RAMDRIVE" only appears once. Yay for consistency!
<OscarL>
I think it would be better if that menu respected the "Show Disks Icon" mode. Would page Skipp_OSX about it if he was around :-)
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<Begasus>
reboot ...
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<Anarchos>
Begasus[m]: how goes this week on haku ?
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<Begasus[m]>
sorry, just saw your message Anarchos :)
<Begasus[m]>
fine until today :)
<Anarchos>
no trouble, i am at work
<Begasus[m]>
that forum topic got on my nerve :)
<kallisti5[m]>
I went ahead and reached out to Mozilla about trademark usages around Firefox.
<Begasus[m]>
+1
<kallisti5[m]>
included Haiku, Inc. BOD and KENZ
<kallisti5[m]>
Hopefully they're receptive since we're targeting an os they don't target today. "Haiku has Firefox" is a lot better than "Haiku has Iceweasel" we need brand recognition
<Begasus>
just can't find that werror reference :/
<waddlesplash>
kallisti5[m]: they aren't going to give that without things being fully up streamed. and probably passing their quality tests
<waddlesplash>
we have a long way to go
<kallisti5[m]>
waddlesplash: That's fair. It mostly get us on their radar
<kallisti5[m]>
Btw.. just updated Wayland, wayland-server. Can confirm iceweasel is amazing
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<kallisti5[m]>
I'm pretty sure this is going to be our break-out moment
<kallisti5[m]>
Y'all did amazing
<scantysnax>
new build good so far. still not seeing anything new in the FAT department, my FATs are not read/write, and have the file cabinet icon instead of a hard disk icon.
<scantysnax>
also experiencing cursor "trails" in IceWeasel
<waddlesplash>
don't spread the news too wide yet, there's a bunch of bugs to fix
<waddlesplash>
like the crashes, and the cursor trails as scantysnax notes
<waddlesplash>
let's let it stabilize a bit
<scantysnax>
but other than that, i found it to be very fast and useable.
<waddlesplash>
it is impressively fast already indeed
<scantysnax>
needs some TLC apparently..
<waddlesplash>
I wonder why QtWebEngine/Chromium is so slow then ...
<scantysnax>
I was thinking the same thing the other night.
<scantysnax>
for example, web positive is a pretty good browser, but it's slow.
<scantysnax>
chromium is fast on other platforms, i wonder why not here.
<scantysnax>
mostly i have been using falkon.
<kallisti5[m]>
As an update on the haiku stable repos.. waiting on bunny cdn to debug the cache issue.
<scantysnax>
at least i can check my gmail properly now (IceWeasel)
<kallisti5[m]>
Giving them a day or two. Pretty much we clear the build artifacts from the cdn, but it keeps serving the wrong revisions if we update files.
<scantysnax>
that sounds strange.
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<OscarL>
Good, "ssh OscarL@A760G-Haiku.local" still works after doing some rebase changes on top of newer upstream mDNSResponder commits.
<Begasus>
nice, just wanted to see if things are still ok there :)
<OscarL>
too bad that I'm really, really distracted, and setting up things took me like... 2 hours :-D
<OscarL>
Begasus: Apple seems to just do "tarball drops" style of commits on that upstream. Our recipe is based on "2200.x.x" version line. Will open a PR updating the recipe to the latest on that line...
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<Begasus>
+1
<OscarL>
and then will see how the new 2559.x.x line behaves.
<augiedoggie_>
nice, looks like korli finished moving the github CI tools to beta 5
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<OscarL>
augiedoggie_: bugged him about it over failing CI on Pe :-D
<augiedoggie_>
Haiku should consider leaving the old package repositories up after moving to a new beta
<augiedoggie_>
it broke all of my CI when the beta4 repos got turned off
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<OscarL>
right, Pe's CI was erroring out on not being able to download certain packages.
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<OscarL>
Mmm, let's see if -D_PLATFORM_HAS_STRONG_PRNG_ works ok now that we have arc4random.
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<Begasus>
ok, fine now :) 1/1 Test #1: onnx_gtests ...................... Passed 0.15 sec
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<OscarL>
k. PR for mDNSResponder up, and finnaly with all my little changes included (was missing a couple on the previous .patchset).
<OscarL>
(well, except for replacing mss_mdns.c with the one from NetBSD :-P)
<Begasus[m]>
good to go?
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<Begasus[m]>
if I merge cargo-c later it will take some time before that is done :)
<OscarL>
Begasus[m]: seems to work ok for me at least.
<OscarL>
(on a "fresh" install even)
<OscarL>
wait!
<OscarL>
Begasus[m]: might have spoken too soon :-(
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<scantysnax>
mmmm browsing a FAT drive just sent me to KDL
<OscarL>
weird, invoking mdnsd now returns immediatly, and I get "mdnsd -d" and "mdnsd" on the list of running teams :-/
<scantysnax>
also FAT drive takes a long time to mount, and you can't use the system until it has finished mounting
<waddlesplash>
scantysnax: some of those issues were fixed on nightlies
<scantysnax>
well, i am developing some software, so i wouldn't think a nightly would be a good idea, unless you'd recommend(sp?) it.
<scantysnax>
OscarL showed me how to boot older installs.
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<Anarchos>
Begasus[m] ah, i found an error in my code :)
<scantysnax>
waddlesplash, what would you recommend?
<scantysnax>
or anyone else for that matter
<scantysnax>
i don't mean any disrespect.
<Begasus[m]>
I'm sticking to beta, but that's for other reasons
<OscarL>
Begasus[m]: seems it works fine when installed under /system/packages, but has some issues if installed under ~/config/packages :-)
<Begasus[m]>
so don't use -H? :P
<OscarL>
yeah :-(
<Begasus[m]>
or "fix" it like in lua(jit) :D
<OscarL>
will do more tests, and will "undraft" the PR once I'm more convinced it works OK :-)
<Begasus[m]>
+1
<OscarL>
most likely current version has the same issue I was seeing a few moments ago.
<OscarL>
bet it is looking for "/bin/mdnsd" somewhere to see if it is already running, and as it is under ~/config/bin/mdnsd instead... it launches again, or something like that.
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<piusbird>
IceWeasel is why i delurked
<zard>
Well then, glad to see you around :)
<piusbird>
and somehow the C++ a little less pain inducing
<Begasus>
f*ck :(
<Begasus>
sorry
<Begasus>
stupid werror
* OscarL
checks dependencies list for iceweasel... not *that* long... but dbus... :-(
<Begasus>
GTK keymap issue :(
<OscarL>
re dbus... I don't want that *bloat* making my shutdowns slower! :-P
<Begasus>
nextcloud is installed on all the systems here (or almost all), so that's alive anyway
<Begasus>
should check if I can get Angelfish building again ...
<Begasus[m]>
there new jxl out of the door, not in use atm (will be for update on kimageformats)
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* OscarL
sees the list of deps on "pkgman install konsole" and quickly desists.
<Begasus>
lol
<Begasus>
it's mainly a benifit combined with Kate/Dolphin etc
<OscarL>
"git config grep.linenumber true" at last!
<OscarL>
Begasus: I just wanted to have another terminal emulator on Haiku, to compare keystrokes handling.
<OscarL>
but I guess I'll be reading code instead :-)
<Begasus>
the list on latest RC is a lot smaller, but then again I "fixed" the devel packages in REQUIRES_devel for the frameworks :)
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<OscarL>
Right, once most of those land... I might test a few finally :-)
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<augiedoggie_>
i wonder if xterm or rxvt runs under xlibe
<OscarL>
"git config grep.column true" as well! (too bad Pe still doesn't supports that :wink: :wink:)
<waddlesplash>
augiedoggie_: I tried xterm once upon a time, didn't work. but this was eons ago and xlibe has had a lot of fixes since
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<OscarL>
mmm, how do we install perl modules on Haiku? (seems I need GraphViz perl bindings)
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* OscarL
discovers "/bin/cpan"... oh boi.
<OscarL>
mmm installs stuff under "/boot/home/.cpan/" :-/
<OscarL>
first time using this... makes installing things via pip look sane in comparison.
<nekobot>
[haiku/haiku] be88b511d7f2 - kernel/vm: Remove an unneeded and misplaced include.
<nekobot>
[haiku/haiku] f8c3cc345949 - kernel/vm: Skip acquiring the available memory lock if there's nothing to unreserve.
<nekobot>
[haiku/haiku] 12be2aa0b349 - kernel/vm: Fix and reactivate VMAnonymousNoSwapCache::Merge.
<nekobot>
[haiku/haiku] 7aafc79ba428 - kernel/debug: Minor style fix in the system_profiler.
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<piusbird>
time to test on actual hardware
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<OscarL>
Begasus: current version of mdnsresponder (the one on the depot) behaves the same (weird) way when installed with "pkgman install -H", so I guess PR is even bug-compatible :-P
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<Begasus[m]>
k, can merge if you think it's good to go, just merged cargo-c, hope it's done in the morning :)
<OscarL>
Can wait till tomorrow then :-)
<Begasus[m]>
well if cargo-c is done sooner then mdnsresponder could be done in the morning too
<OscarL>
the "weirdness" I'm seeing might not have to be with installing location after all. darn mdnsd is just a bit stupid, I think :-)
<OscarL>
- you call it with wrong arguments... it shows usage text, but keeps running in the background.
<OscarL>
- you call again... and it just starts a different instanse... then registration of services fail.
<OscarL>
s/instanse/instance/
<Begasus[m]>
guess I'll let you tinker with it for a bit :)
<OscarL>
right.
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<OscarL>
I think I'll add some quick usage instructions into the package description (good thing I found the post I did about it :-D).
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<OscarL>
this thing writes a PID_FILE, but seems it never reads it.
<Begasus>
woot!!! mv: cannot stat '/packages/onnxruntime-1.17.3-1/.self/lib/libprojectx.*': No such file or directory
* Begasus
created patchset real quick!
<OscarL>
k, mdnsd now calls exit(-1) if given unknown paramemters.
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<Begasus>
progress?
<OscarL>
I think, yeah. Now at least you don't get it running in the background unexpectedly.
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<OscarL>
now... I think I should check that PID_FILE in daemon(), and call exit(-1) if it already exists.
<OscarL>
(with a proper message about it, ofc)
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<Begasus>
jikes, almost 1.5GB only for the lib directory :P
<Begasus>
RelWithDebInfo needs to change to None or Release
<Begasus>
None doesn't contain any debug info?
<OscarL>
no idea what's the default.
<Begasus>
default is Release
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<Begasus>
and what I mostly use, haven't used None before
<Begasus>
yes! grabbing onnxruntime-1.17.3-1-x86_64.hpkg and moving it to /Share/haikuports/packages/onnxruntime-1.17.3-1-x86_64.hpkg
<Begasus>
base package 3.01KiB
<Begasus>
devel package 249.5MiB
<Begasus>
mostly static libraries now
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<Begasus>
closing down here
<Begasus>
cu peeps!
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<cratuki>
Does anyone know a video card that works with R5 and Haiku, and which supports 1080p under R5?
<piusbird>
any changes on nightly that would cause wifi to fail if downloading from Depot
<piusbird>
only depot seems effected
<piusbird>
pkgman works fine
<waddlesplash>
piusbird: probably a HaikuDepot bug somehow I guess
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<waddlesplash>
cratuki: are there even any video cards that support 1080p under R5 at all?
<waddlesplash>
Haiku is much more tolerant than BeOS, anything that supports basic VESA will work under Haiku
<piusbird>
now it's flaking under pkgman
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<Anarchos>
is there a code formatter available ?
<Anarchos>
for haiku codestyle ?
<OscarL>
Anarchos: pkgman install haiku_format
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<Anarchos>
OscarL thanks
* Anarchos
finally found that "char sector[512]" is not the same than "uint32 sector[512]" ...
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<OscarL>
the lack of a string type in C makes me weep.
<OscarL>
not asking for much, something like Pascal strings would go a looong way.
<piusbird>
seem to be a regression in the wifi for the for the Intel Pro 4695 ABGN will see if it will panic again for me
<piusbird>
OscarL, #define string char*
<piusbird>
:)
<OscarL>
funny guy :-D
<piusbird>
i try
<OscarL>
I should also do "#define begin {" "#define end }" while at it! :-D
<piusbird>
there's actually a canonical header file that abuses the preprocessor to give you a pascal like experince
<piusbird>
university had it installed by default
<OscarL>
I remember reading about something like that when I was young(er), yeah.
<piusbird>
has freepascal been ported
<waddlesplash>
yes
<OscarL>
on Python, you can abuse the "#coding:", and implement a totally different syntaxt that way. Lots of funs messing around with that stuff.
<OscarL>
k, mdnsd now only starts once, and complains on stdout and syslog if pid file already exists but no mdnsd is actually running.
<OscarL>
patch is uglier than me, but... seems to work.
<piusbird>
hmm report now or attempt to reproduce one more time
<dovsienko>
did anybody ever need getent(1) on Haiku?
<piusbird>
i think it uses a diff approch then NSS
<OscarL>
"cat /var/run/mdnsd" gives: "cat /var/run/mdnsd: Is a directory". So I do "rmdir /var/run/mdnsd"... only to get: "rmdir: failed to remove '/var/run/mdnsd': Not a directory"
<OscarL>
:-/
<OscarL>
Schrödinger's directory ?
<piusbird>
the cat hid it
<OscarL>
thing is... there's no "/var/run/mdnsd" at all, just "/var/run/mdnsd.pid". Only used the first because bash autocompletion offered it (along with mdnsd.pid)
<OscarL>
mmm "rm /var/run/mdnsd" returned without errors, and now bash auto-complete only offers the *.pid file
<OscarL>
at no point Tracker showed any "mdnsd" file in that dir. Weird.
<OscarL>
lol, can reproduce it by... running /bin/mdnsd once (starts as "deamon"). and then calling "/bin/mdnsd -debug"
<OscarL>
"ls -1l" shows it as "srw-r--r-- 1 user root [date] mdnsd="