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<Vidrep_64> Hi waddlesplash
<Vidrep_64> Just got back home. I'll test out the NTFS driver tomorrow
<waddlesplash> very good
<Vidrep_64> There's quite a few issues to look for
<Vidrep_64> Wrong dates, crashes with deletion of files, and very slow writing (particularly on very large files eg. movies)
<waddlesplash> slow writing is probably improved but it is still likely an issue unfortunately
<Vidrep_64> Holy cow, another gcc update
<waddlesplash> the GCC updates were due to missing patches. hopefully all fixed now
<waddlesplash> Vidrep_64: the new driver is on hrev55628 or above as you can see
<waddlesplash> anyway, crashes and wrong dates are all fixed as far as I can tell
<Vidrep_64> It's been a very good past 2 or 3 weeks
<Vidrep_64> Lots of bugs fixed, enhancements, etc
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 2 commits to master [hrev55631] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=913373053fe8+%5E4a025c8e74a3
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] bef774d30c28 - libntfs: Add assertion that the entry is not already in the cache.
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 913373053fe8 - ntfs: Prevent moving directories into themselves (even indirectly.)
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [hrev55632] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=049eb4cb89e8+%5E913373053fe8
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 049eb4cb89e8 - libroot/os: Remove B_CLONEABLE_AREA protection check.
<Vidrep_64> waddlesplash, do you have plans to pick up where you left off with that audit? https://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/14961
<waddlesplash> eventually
<waddlesplash> the audit is really only a "first pass," I'm sure I'm missing things
<Vidrep_64> What's next on your "to do" list?
<waddlesplash> filesystem/block device cleanup that I noticed while working on ntfs
<waddlesplash> probably may include fixing up PulkoMandy's "2TB+" patches to get us support for huge drives
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<Vidrep_64> I think I have a open ticket for that. I remember trying to install multiboot Haiku on a 6TB drive, and I had to play around to get it to work.
<Vidrep_64> It had more to do with our BootManager https://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/13524
<rennj> adding openzfs and replacing bfas
<rennj> adding openzfs and replacing bfs
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<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] korli pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://git.io/JXimb
<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] korli cd5f20e - libssh: trigger build on x86
<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] korli pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://git.io/JXiYt
<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] korli 6c1a240 - sequitur: fix SOURCE_DIR
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<Not-5726> [haikuports] korli deleted branch gcc-11.2-fstack-protector - https://git.io/vFAzP
<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] korli deleted branch gcc-11.2-fstack-protector
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] pulkomandy pushed 1 commit to master [hrev55633] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=cb3199681eb2+%5E049eb4cb89e8
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] cb3199681eb2 - UDP: apply review comments from hrev51603
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<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes pushed 1 commit to master [+9/-0/±0] https://git.io/JXPXH
<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes 862593c - Kotatogram: add recipe
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<Schreibhecht_> German?
<Schreibhecht_> Can Haikou on Raspberry?
<Schreibhecht_> Haiku
<mmu_man> not yet
<mmu_man> the ARM port is not finished
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<Schreibhecht_> thank you
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<x512[m]> This is much nearer to functional stage.
<Anarchos> hello
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<mmu_man> x512[m]: righto :)
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<aa55[m]> Hello guyz
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<aa55[m]> I want to contribute to haiku for the GSOC-22
<Anarchos> aa55[m]: nice !
<aa55[m]> Anarchos: Can you please tell me from where should I start working?
<Anarchos> aa55[m]: it depends on your skills !
<aa55[m]> I know C/C++, Bash, and I am currently working on creating a Linux Rice for r/unixp*rn
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<aa55[m]> I have some experience working with Python too, but I don't know where should I begin with
<aa55[m]> Anarchos: If possible, can you give me some sort of guidance
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<aa55[m]> <Anarchos> "aa55: https://dev.haiku-os.org..." <- thank you very much!
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<HaikuUser> hi all
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<mbrumbelow[m]> Hey, has anyone seen an issue where mimeset crashes during a Haiku build? This has been happening recently.
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<x512[m]> mbrumbelow: Yes. It is caused by update GCC 8 -> GCC 11.
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<BrunoSpr> aa55[m] all GSOC students has to build Haiku in the past. Is it Anarchos?
<mbrumbelow[m]> x512: I did not see an issue at first glance in Tracker concerning this.
<x512[m]> You can create one.
<mbrumbelow[m]> I am working on it now. Thanks
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<aa55[m]> <BrunoSpr> "aa55 all GSOC students has to..." <- BrunoSpr: Sorry, but I didn't get your point. Do I need to build Haiku from binaries like gentoo?
<humdinger> aa55[m]: it means you'll have to set up your dev environment to build Haiku from source.
<Jackburton79> bye
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<aa55[m]> humdinger: Thanks, I'll look into this.
<humdinger> np
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<Vidrep_64> Good morning
<Vidrep_64> Hullo humdinger
<andreasdr> Hi, whats up?
<Skipp_OSX> y0
<andreasdr> The up vector :D
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<humdinger> evening
<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] korli pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://git.io/JXMCZ
<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] davidkaroly 3519a0f - gcc-8.3.0: build bootloader libraries (#6385)
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<chaoticbob[m]> I think I'm going to treat myself to a serial out viewing of the Haiku boot process
<andreasdr> Have fun.
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<chaoticbob[m]> That'sd pretty cool
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<chaoticbob[m]> haven't had to hook up a serial port in like 20+ years!
<chaoticbob[m]> Now I just need a PS2 keyboard to make KDL possible
<Guest5446> you can bind a shortcut to kernel_debugger instead
<Guest5446> should work with usb hid... I think, might not though :D (I've never used a usb keyboard with haiku, only PS2, so take my hint with a bit of salt)
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<roiredX> good day
<chaoticbob[m]> it does not seem to like my USB keyboard....it prints the commands that's about it
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<humdinger> chaoticbob[m]: you mean the Shortcuts prefs don't work with assigning /bin/kernel_debugger to a key combo?
<chaoticbob[m]> you mean to bring it up?
<chaoticbob[m]> I think it brings it up fine
<chaoticbob[m]> it's once i'm in KDL...my keyboard seems to do nothing
<humdinger> oh, right. USB keyboards often don't work there.
<humdinger> probably a visa issue... :)
<chaoticbob[m]> lol
<chaoticbob[m]> if that's the case then USB keyboards and I share a common struggle
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* humdinger waves
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<waddlesplash> chaoticbob[m]: what USB? ehci or xhci are the ones that work for USB in KDL
<waddlesplash> also note that you may need to enter KDL via the keyboard for it to work
<waddlesplash> if you only have one attached USB keyboard, then it should be fine, but often times mouse devices claim to have a keyboard too, for example, so then we can't pick the right one automatically necessarily
<waddlesplash> hence if you enter KDL via the USB keyboard itself at least once and then exit it, that may resolve things
<x512[m]> USB keyboard not work in KDL for me. Keyboard is connected by USB 2.0 hub.
<waddlesplash> x512[m]: did you try entering KDL via the keyboard?
<x512[m]> Entering works, typing not.
<x512[m]> It probably worked some years ago, not sure.
<waddlesplash> strange
<waddlesplash> maybe worth investigating
<waddlesplash> everything begins here
<x512[m]> HiFive Unmatched is nice, it has hardware UART connected by USB. Getting syslog and typing in KDL is easy and reliable.
<Skipp_OSX> still no beaglev boards :/
<x512[m]> Not this year at least.
<chaoticbob[m]> I think it's time i purchase one of the HiFive boards
<chaoticbob[m]> waddlesplash: based on the the output I've seen it looks like both ehci and xhci - i don't know which one the keyboard is connected to tho
<chaoticbob[m]> Also...what is the PC keyboard equivalent of Alt-SysReq-D?
<chaoticbob[m]> Alt + Break + D?
<waddlesplash> no, it's still alt+sysrq+D
<waddlesplash> usually prntscrn = sysrq
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<chaoticbob[m]> got it...yeah that works in KDL but the keyboard doesn't see to work
<chaoticbob[m]> However my serial connection works and somehow i managed to start a game of hangman?
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<shaka444[m]> What do you do with this (from checkfs)? "META:company (inode = 63716), has blocks already set"
<B2IA> (AGMS) shaka444[m] Find out which file it is, zip it up to some other storage device (so attributes are preserved), delete it, rerun checkfs, restore the file from the backup.
<B2IA> (AGMS) That means some file (likely a People file) has the "META:company" attribute using data that is in the free blocks space.
<B2IA> (AGMS) Can find the file by doing a query for all files with the META:company attribute.
<shaka444[m]> Thanks AGMS!
<B2IA> (AGMS) This should show all files: query -a "META:company=*""
<mmu_man> (note we never actually used "Facebook:company=*" previously)
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<shaka444[m]> <mmu_man> "(note we never actually used "..." <- I was thinking that too ;-)
<Skipp_OSX> hehe
<shaka444[m]> AGMS query -a "META:company=*"" not showing anything
<B2IA> (AGMS) Hmmm, guess the attribute isn't in the index, shaka444[m]
<B2IA> (AGMS) So zip up your People directory, delete it, do the checkfs, then restore it.
<shaka444[m]> is there a way to find an inode?
<shaka444[m]> ok
<B2IA> (AGMS) Maybe.
<B2IA> (AGMS) Nope, don't see any obvious utilities for it.
<B2IA> (AGMS) Though the API for the kernel should let you find an inode when given a file path.
<B2IA> (AGMS) The paranoid recovery method for that is to copy the whole disk file by file to a newly formatted disk (with indices created in advance on the new disk so they accumulate the files as they are copied).
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<shaka444[m]> AGMS I could do that then reformat the original drive and copy everything back..
<B2IA> (AGMS) Yes, that should work, shaka444[m]
<B2IA> (AGMS) By the way, the "lsindex -l" command will list the indices on a particular disk volume, so you know which ones to recreate.
<B2IA> (AGMS) Though by running the email program and the People program, a lot of them get recreated automatically.
<shaka444[m]> The interesting thing is, I've never used the People program
<shaka444[m]> email yes
<B2IA> (AGMS) Maybe you downloaded a People file from BeShare or some other file sharing that preserves attributes.
<B2IA> (AGMS) I see s BBJimmy one in my BeShare.
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<shaka444[m]> Yes used it MANY years ago in Be and still have the files here..
<shaka444[m]> Hmm so playing with lsindex I see that there is an option --mkindex which outputs mkindex commands to recreate all the indices.
<shaka444[m]> will that help? is it dangerous?
<shaka444[m]> or would mkindex command alone help?
<rennj> addattr rmattr copyattr settype setmime mimeset ..beos bible covered some of this stuff
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<rennj> i did have usenet and email work with just tracker/opentracker and bfs filesystem foo
<rennj> using bfs database feature create schema i suppose like email: to from subject date
<rennj> opentracker sort the email and show you info by those attributes
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<B2IA> (AGMS) Nice; I had to manually set up the mkindex commands when formatting a new disk.
<rennj> list bunch of info
<rennj> mkindex reindex rmindex lsindex / addattr catattr listattr rmattr
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<Vidrep_64> waddlesplash, I have a pair of NTFS formatted USB sticks that I cannot mount any longer after the last changes