<nagerst>
have you tried "wasp" icon theme for gtk? then you can make it kinda look like haiku
<nagerst>
i love the isometric style
<nagerst>
I noticed that even the extremely nice nutbag that is developing "SerenityOS" is using the BeOS coloured block icon.
<nagerst>
he seems to be working well with others, but i am worried that it might turn out to be another Robert Szeleney or even a Terry Davis. They share similar backgrounds of abuse and all that, but coding for certain parties. Two prioor had been at infinite loop and the latter at federal agencies.
<nagerst>
unsimilar
<nagerst>
all their os'es was awesome in their own way
<nagerst>
I think SkyOS went furthest of the three so far, but Serenity has a very active developer base.
<nagerst>
TempleOS was declared complete, and Terry killed himself.
<nagerst>
Sad story
<nagerst>
SkyOS used OpenBFS as it's storage. That is the first i ever heard of it.
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<dovsienko>
the VM needs to be always on, but the workers are mostly idle
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<nephele>
shaka444: i think we have qemu, and that's it? :)
<shaka444[m]>
looks like qemu is the only gave in town. gotta go with that
<nephele>
or you mean to run haiku /in/?
<shaka444[m]>
yep
<nephele>
if your host is linux, qemu and virtualbox i think
<shaka444[m]>
What I really want is a native Haiku DAW :-) but till then, if I can get away with editing in a VM thats fine as long as the perfoemance doesnt get in the way
<shaka444[m]>
too bad BoxedWine doesn't run linux apps!
<shaka444[m]>
Although there is an Ardour for windows, If I can get that running
<nephele>
I don't really make music, I did dabble with the idea to make a midi-recording app though... so you can connect a midi device and it records the notes precisely as you play them ... just not in the midi file format :)
<nephele>
something like... reverse synthesia heh
<shaka444[m]>
Maddie comes in handy for things like drums and keyboards so that’s good but guitars and vocals analog is the way to go
<shaka444[m]>
* MIDI not Maddie 😄
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<nephele>
Well, medo for example is pluggable, if there ever is a DAW for haiku I imagine it would be very pluggable utilizing severall components too
<shaka444[m]>
If anyone has the source to 3dMix that would help too.. PM me
<nephele>
so, if i make something that is good for visualizing midi or midi-like data (known instrument (or sample) at a time and note level) and recording that, that could be reused for a DAW aswell, or even better integrated directly
<shaka444[m]>
Medo Would also be a good basis for a digital audio workstation in haiku
<nephele>
Medo does a lot of underthehood things you might need, but the rest is not that suited tbh :)
<shaka444[m]>
The ideas in cortex are great as well
<nephele>
what do you mean?
<nephele>
Cortex is just a visualizer
<nephele>
Personally, I don't know why it does not also visualize MIDI devices in the same way .-.
<shaka444[m]>
Yes- With cortex you can add plug-ins like reverb echo etc.. and mix audio
<nephele>
Yes, that's basically just a visualization of the underlying media kit
<shaka444[m]>
I think all you would need to do is create a node for Midi that cortex can read
<nephele>
No, midi kit is seperate to media kit
<nephele>
or well, midi2 kit
<shaka444[m]>
Cortex is Jack before Jack was Jack
<shaka444[m]>
True but it does go through the media mixer to the sound output
<nephele>
Not really
<nephele>
Midi nodes can be connected just as media nodes can and exchange midi data
<shaka444[m]>
Then how do I hear it? 😀
<nephele>
but this isn't directly related to the sound output, because this does not have a soundfont associated
<nephele>
if you want to output the sound you need a soundfont installed, and something that translated the midi to something media kit can consume
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<shaka444[m]>
I understand exactly what you mean and yes that’s correct. But they can be mixed together through the mixer to create a single audio stream
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<nephele>
if you have a translator in the middle, but that is not the same as beeing in the same realm to begin with ;)
<shaka444[m]>
other audio workstations like sonar do that quite nicely
<nephele>
I think it would be neat if cortex could visualize these midi connections aswell
<shaka444[m]>
and in Linux you essentially use two separate apps that sink up through Jack
<shaka444[m]>
Me too. I thought it did back in the day…
<nephele>
It shows "Soft sync" for MidiPlayer
<shaka444[m]>
where does cortex look for nodes?
<nephele>
but it does not show the Midi keyboard connected for it for example
<nephele>
well... it probably asks the media kit somehow? I did not really look into it
<nephele>
there is a nice app called MidiKeyboard in HaikuDepot you can use with MidiPlayer btw
<shaka444[m]>
If I get some time I’ll boot up the old Be machine And see if there is anything there
<nephele>
MediaPlayer has a playlist... Qmplay has a youtube search interface... honestly, if there was a native app that did the youtube search part (Or any equivalent or better service, or gateway) and added to the MediaPlayer playlist, and it could stream those things... I would just use that instead of QMplay2
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<Diver>
nephele: QMplay2 also has a minimum cpu usage when playing videos, even lower than MediaPlayer
<nephele>
QMplay2 does indeed perform better, but that doesn't matter much for my hw, It would be nice to optimize MediaPlayer :)
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<nipos>
Git cloning the Emacs source takes 1.24GB o.O That's a huge text editor...But I really want to see the Haiku-native GUI without waiting for a build to arrive in the depot :D
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<dovsienko>
so, I downloaded the x86_64 ISO and plugged it into VirtualBox and the boot does not go any further than a black screen with blinking cursor, is that expected?
<dovsienko>
the same VirtualBox runs a few other OSes fine
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<B2IA>
(AGMS) dovsienko, wirks iver here. After turning off audio due to new pipewire Linux audio being broken.
<dovsienko>
hmm, okay. I would still prefer a subject matter expert to run the VM
<B2IA>
(AGMS) There are some pages on the Haiku-os.org site that have virtualization instructions.
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<PulkoMandy>
it is still bootable, even if quite unstable)
<PulkoMandy>
waddlesplash: I have an NTFS volume that mounts at "/unnamed volume", Tracker shows it as an icon with no name and if I open that, the window is just empty. Trying to do ls in terminal, it lists a few things, but the last character of all files is missing and there is another directory without name inside. Is this because of the new NTFS driver? Or is my Windows install this much broken (as far as I know
<waddlesplash>
this may be because of the dirent changes
<waddlesplash>
I might have messed up the name sizing
<waddlesplash>
what hrev is this?
<waddlesplash>
ah, yes, I did miss a +1
<PulkoMandy>
if I manually type a directory name (cd "Windows") I can enter that directory
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<PulkoMandy>
didn't have some quiet time to review this (not at work during lunchbreak), I can try to take a closer look and try to understand the locking model there
<waddlesplash>
well, the newer locking model is much more coherent, but it uses quite a lot of atomics
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<snalehouse>
Heya.
<snalehouse>
Finally I fixed the dumb issue I had with Vision.
<snalehouse>
I hope my messages do go through lol
<waddlesplash>
yes, we can read then :-p
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<snalehouse>
:D yay
<waddlesplash>
PulkoMandy: uh oh, my less-atomics version KDLed
<waddlesplash>
with "not unset for a long time"
<snalehouse>
I was having an ugly issue with Vision where every time I connected to this network, it kicked me after a few seconds because "no ident response" or whatever
<snalehouse>
Finally I tried speedtyping a /nick in the few seconds
<snalehouse>
and it worked, and here I am
<snalehouse>
I dunno, shouldnt Vision just... use the nicks I put in the preferences?
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<waddlesplash>
no idea
<waddlesplash>
sys 0m7.240s
<waddlesplash>
well, aside from the one KDL, this variant is more performant than all the others
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<waddlesplash>
actually I see away to merge two more atomic operations
<waddlesplash>
07.117s: ah yeah, best yet!
<waddlesplash>
er, 171
<waddlesplash>
PulkoMandy: new patch pushed
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