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<AlienSoldier> looking back at advancemame, it does not even start anymore (32bit): "state: Exception (Invalid opcode exception)"
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<AlienSoldier> i am amazed that with all the ggod QT app, we still don't have a good QT mame port
<AlienSoldier> mGba use QT and work awsome
<AlienSoldier> *mGBA
<rennj> neither does regular mame plus or whatever
<rennj> advanced mame at 23MB is useless
<rennj> mame plus at 8MB plus all the stuff it pulls in is useless also...
<rennj> i bet i would have better luck with mame on beos
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<AlienSoldier> rennj mame on beos work almost good in haiku but you are stuck with the 0.80 rom set
<AlienSoldier> it also have problem handling different resolution (i always need to use it in woindowed mode and i hate that)
<AlienSoldier> seem mame plus have a QT GUI: https://sourceforge.net/projects/mameplus/
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<AlienSoldier> <AlienSoldier> seem mame plus have a QT GUI: https://sourceforge.net/projects/mameplus/
<AlienSoldier> <AlienSoldier> seem the gui is mameui and that is the continuation of mame32, the only mame i never had any issue with.
<rennj> mame thats bundled with linux mint works fine
<rennj> solution
<rennj> linux mint mame > win10 mame > aros mame
<rennj> haiku is not even on the score board...cut copy paste of files failure
<rennj> when opentracker fails
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<AlienSoldier> i don't even have that bug. Could you have bfs fragmentation?
<rennj> it was brand new r1beta3 with pkgman update applied
<rennj> tried to copy files from isoimage to roms dir on harddrive
<rennj> for mame
<rennj> isoimage / cdrom has 1017 files ending in .zip
<rennj> mame/roms
<AlienSoldier> what happen if you copy the iso on HD and then mount it there and extract from it. Perhaps the issue is with the cd driver
<rennj> i didnt waste time with that..im rm -rf haiku and moved on
<rennj> linux runs mame better
<rennj> why would i waste it on worse performance even if haiku actually worked..
<AlienSoldier> well, if i was not wasting time isolating bugs, my report would go nowere, just saying.
<rennj> only amiga makes it possible
<rennj> aros-one-x86-v1.6 vs haiku running mame
<rennj> thats a test you can do in virtualbox,qemu,vmware now
<rennj> vesa mode for both
<AlienSoldier> one of the anoying thing with terminal is if i quickly type after launching it, i type ahead of the greeting message :(
<rennj> vlance nic, es13xx sound
<AlienSoldier> well, not a good comparaison at this point as nobody worked to make mame work great on haiku, at least not in a way Caz used to do.
<rennj> yeah what about file coping in tracker
<rennj> heh
<rennj> no worked on basic file management either
<rennj> noone worked on basic file management either
<AlienSoldier> like i said, i don't have that one, you may be the only one, that is why i mentioned you should isolate the problem.
<rennj> yeah my r1b3 vm is reproachable...pkgman update
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<AlienSoldier> nope, retroarch is still unusable to me.
<AlienSoldier> sluggish fest
<AlienSoldier> even setting it to SDL2 output (when it does not crash)
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<Lightning> die
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<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] korli pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://git.io/JMvO3
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<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] korli 9d9377a - qtwebengine_bin: conflicts instead of replace
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<countryboy> peace and love ...
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<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://git.io/JMvwS
<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes 93f30fb - qtwebengine_bin: bump source revision
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] pulkomandy pushed 1 commit to master [hrev55663] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=191fa37376ce+%5E750ed8dd4136
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 191fa37376ce - kernel/uart: fix GetChar for PL011
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] pulkomandy pushed 1 commit to master [hrev55664] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=493b3fc40970+%5E191fa37376ce
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 493b3fc40970 - bus_managers/fdt: check for NULL
<shaka444[m]> is there any work being done on getting x86 apps to run in x86_64? I'd love to have 3dMix running here..
<shaka444[m]> That would also Unify the OS so we wouldn't have to have seperate builds.
<Diver> nope, nobody is working on it
<shaka444[m]> bummer
<shaka444[m]> I guess I could install x86 on another drive in the same machine
<shaka444[m]> Ahh if I could only find the source for 3dMix ;-) I actually emailed Benoit S. about it and he said he'd look for it
<Diver> it should be quite easy to find source code for it
<shaka444[m]> where might I start?
<Diver> but it won't compile on 64bits without fixing it
<shaka444[m]> yep
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<shaka444[m]> Yoiu were right Diver :-D
<nephele> shaka444: I don't think it would unify anything, x86 compat on amd64 is not the same as x86 mode normally
<nephele> There is a review for kernel compatibility mode for 32bit binaries on gerrit
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<nephele> waddlesplash: for compat mode, your idea would also be neat for other architectures, we can use qemu for single processes and have native system calls (i think that's called qemu user mode or so?)
<waddlesplash> yeah, qemu-user
<waddlesplash> Diver: what do you mean source code should be easy to find for 3dmix?
<Mrten[m]1> I must say that porting is really easy, just got CLion working in Haiku 😊
<waddlesplash> it's really easy once we've already done all the hard work of porting openjdk :-p
<nephele> )
<nephele> Would be cool to have a MIME type for jar files, and a way for openjre java to automatically execute it (as it would with java -jar myjar.jar
<Diver> waddlesplash: it's been floating around the internet
<waddlesplash> Diver: probably a leak, not legal, and we can't touch it
<waddlesplash> nephele: we do have a mime type
<waddlesplash> but it doesn't work because nobody made a launcher or fixed B_ARGV_ONLY
<Diver> yes, we can't
<nephele> what's to fix for B_ARGV_ONLY?
<waddlesplash> it doesn't work, RefsReceived is still called anyway
<waddlesplash> there's a ticket
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<waddlesplash> actually I made the ticket because I was trying to write a shell script launcher for jar files lol
<nephele> The BeBook sais that it will instead give the BMessage for argv received
<waddlesplash> the be book may be wrong here
<waddlesplash> but read the ticket history
<nephele> but... that's not calling the app with argv arguments directly, so i really don't see how this is usefull for unaware C apps
<nephele> Please don't use shell scripts for launchers of anything...
<nephele> I can't find the reference in the BeBook, maybe i misremembered that ... :)
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<nephele> waddlesplash: it would explain why using love2d as a recepient directly didn't work, but the fix of just removing B_ARGV_ONLY is better anyway (SDL reads atleast some BMessages, and does something usefull with them...)
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<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] korli pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-0/±0] https://git.io/JMfoL
<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] korli ac0611f - qtwebengine: add recipe for 5.15.7
<shaka444[m]> what is tracker_shelf in /boot/home/config/settings/Tracker?
<Mrten[m]1> I'm Haikurious, but the guides on how to get started programming are 404, for example: https://www.haiku-os.org/blog/darkwyrm/2010-09-08_new_series_lessons_programming_haiku/. Are the lessons available elsewhere?
<shaka444[m]> hang on m I think I have them
<nephele> Jeez, could the bridge be less spammy?
<shaka444[m]> that should do it :-)
<waddlesplash> Mrten[m]1: yes, they're linked at https://www.haiku-os.org/development/
<nephele> shaka444: I think that config file is for replicants, not 100% sure though
<shaka444[m]> Im having this issue with the Trashcan being a regular folder icon when I boot- until I either empty trash or put something in it, then it goes back to normal. I'm wonering what config file I could delete that might fix it
<nephele> None, it's a bug
<shaka444[m]> have you experienced it nephele?
<nephele> No, but i follow the bugtracker :)
<shaka444[m]> I reported the bug
<nephele> Unless you manually edited config files i don't think just removing them is a good solution, it just makes it harder to figure out what is wrong
<nephele> if you move a config file out of the place it is read from and the bug disapears you could upload that file so the config can be replicated
<Mrten[m]1> waddlesplash, shaka444: thank you both!
<shaka444[m]> nephele ok I'm going to start by moving TrackerSettings file and see if that helps (then I'll try tracker_shelf I guess)
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<shaka444[m]> just added to the ticket- when I moved tracker_shelf to trash the trash icon stayed a regular folder icon even when I deleted trash. (previously it would revert back to trash icon)
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<shaka444[m]> Ok I got it- now when I first moved something to the trash, thus letting the icon revert to the proper Trash icon, Then moved tracker_shelf to trash and rebooted, the folder icon is now correct.
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<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] korli pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-0/±1] https://git.io/JMfjY
<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] korli d844a98 - qtwebengine: fix media_audio_haiku build with 5.15.7
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<nephele> oh... begasus posted an issue with some lua software, it explains my own build failure for luasocks hehe
<nephele> ironically, the easiest fix is to build it with haikuports instead probably, so... i'll just do that and then i can annoy begasus with a new recipe
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<waddlesplash> well, this was a fun experiment but I'm giving up
<waddlesplash> posted some comments on the ia32 patch about my findings
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<Vidrep_64> waddlesplash, what should I be looking for in the sylog for the cdda2wav cache issue?
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<Vidrep_64> I see this (spam):
<Vidrep_64> KERN: team "cdda2wav" (1011) attempted to clone area "shmfifo" (11504)!
<Vidrep_64> KERN: ahci: Probe: port 2 link speed 1.5Gb/s
<Vidrep_64> KERN: ahci: sata_request::finish ATA command 0xa0 failed: status 0x51, error 0x54
<Vidrep_64> KERN: ahci: sata_request::finish ATAPI packet d8 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 37 00 00 00 00 00 00 (len 12)
<Vidrep_64> KERN: raw_command:
<Vidrep_64> KERN: Last message repeated 7 times.
<Vidrep_64> KERN: SCSI -- copy_sg_data: buffer = 0xffffffff80393a10, virt_addr = 0x48da70c0, bytes = 36, to_buffer = 1
<Vidrep_64> KERN: SCSI -- copy_sg_data: buffer = 0xffffffff80393a10, virt_addr = 0x48da70c0, bytes = 36, to_buffer = 0
<Vidrep_64> KERN: raw_command:
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<EncryptedUnicorn> hey everyone
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<nephele> Good day
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<andreasdr> Hi
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<konrad> Hi can I enable debug loggin to screen while booting wihtout accessing it by pressing space while booting? Like in kernel settings file?
<B2IA> (AGMS) konrad, there doesn't seem to be a setting for that. The next best thing is to turn on serial debug output in ~/config/settings/kernel/drivers/kernel , if you can read it (real hardware or VirtualBox work).
<konrad> B2IA tnx. I guess it would be good. I can mount the USB memory and add settings to kernel. But It hangs if I press [space] during boot
<B2IA> (AGMS) Maybe edit the kernel settings to use safe video mode? Though it's using plain text mode for the pre-boot menu so I don't know what's going on there.
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<konrad> B2IA Yeah I did, turned off smp, and other stuff but still the same KDL.
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<andreasdr> x512[m]: Yes I know. This is awesome.
<andreasdr> I have a 7790 or some similar graphics card.
<andreasdr> If you want me to test or something, please let me know.
<andreasdr> I take a bow Sir.
<andreasdr> I mean I bow. :D
<andreasdr> English. Complicated language sometimes :DD
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<waddlesplash> Vidrep_64: the first line you copied is the problem
<waddlesplash> post that in the haikuports issue you opened
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<codysseus[m]> <andreasdr> "I take a bow Sir." <- I mean you can say “I take a bow” but usually it means “I am leaving”
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<Vidrep_64> waddlesplash, done
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<nephele> Vidrep: do you still get the amazon freeze?
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<Vidrep_64> nephele, I did last time I tried
<nephele> Okay, would be neat to update the ticket that it is not resolved :)
<Vidrep_64> I just tried now, still freezing
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<Vidrep_64> nephele, done
<nephele> Thanks :D
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<Vidrep_64> Can "someone" please have a look at this issue with PhotoGrabber? It's been broken for more than a year, and is a PITA to use this way. Thanks. https://github.com/HaikuArchives/PhotoGrabber/issues/27
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<nephele> I managed to compile it (the makefile somehow doesn't make the "dist" and "dist/plugins" directory and fails the build)... but i don't actually have a ptp camera to test this with
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<Vidrep_64> nephele, the easiest way to build it is by using the haikuports recipe
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<rennj> https://mednafen.github.io/ haiku ports
<rennj> snes9x forget that...
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