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<BGA> Ok, disabling user add-ons and smp did not help.
<BGA> Disconnecting all USB devices but the USB HD I am booting from worked and made it boot.
<BGA> The reconnecting the mouse/keyboard (through a KVM) results in exactly the same crash.
<waddlesplash> fascinating
<waddlesplash> any difference without a kvm?
<BGA> In might have tried it once with the same issue. let me try again.
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<BGA> So, did not test with mouse only, but connecting the keyboard directly to the NUC results in the same crash.
<BGA> waddlesplash: The keyboard in a Alienware on with support for setting the keyboard colors. Maybe it has some other USB-atttached device exposed that is confusing Haiku?
<BGA> is an Alienware.
<BGA> Other thna this, it is a pretty plain keyboard with only a volume knob.
<BGA> Not even any other media keys.
<waddlesplash> possibly, or more likely it just does something strange the USB hid driver does not expect
<waddlesplash> and thus crashes
<BGA> Oh... The keyboard itself is also a hub (it has one USB port).
<waddlesplash> yeah that seems possibly related
<waddlesplash> see if you can use a different keyboard to get KDL input
<BGA> Diver: Yep, seems to be exactly the same bug.
<BGA> waddlesplash: Will try with a different keyboard, but I think it is unlikelly the person on that bug is using exactly the same keyboard I am. :) So ut might be a more general bug.
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<BGA> Ok, different keyboard got it to boot.
<BGA> But connecting my mouse is stalling usb_hid apparently.
<BGA> (mouse and keyboard stop working.
<BGA> There is something fishy here.
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [hrev55671] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=02077ffc4257+%5E7a855aa5c740
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 02077ffc4257 - kernel/condition_variable: Atomicize ConditionVariableEntry and drop the lock.
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] korli pushed 2 commits to master [hrev55672] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=3fedf64872f4+%5E02077ffc4257
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 66aae9308778 - intel_extreme: enable CoffeeLake
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 3fedf64872f4 - intel_extreme: enable KabyLake
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<Anarchos> hello folks
<andreasdr> Hi
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<countryboy> hello, simply hello ...
<countryboy> peace
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<Anarchos> how are you andreasdr
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<Anarchos> salut mmu_man
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<andreasdr> Anarchos: Thank you for asking. All good here :) How about you?
<Anarchos> andreasdr i struggle to get some programs of mine running on haiku :)
<andreasdr> Nice. What kind of programs?
<andreasdr> Which APIs do those programs use?
<Anarchos> andreasdr i program mostly in OCaml and i try to build an GUI for them in c++
<Anarchos> andreasdr i also struggle to build a package for BeTeX, for which i solved numerous bugs/inefficiencies
<andreasdr> Sounds interesting, but I have no idea :D
<andreasdr> So I wish good luck to finish this :)
<Anarchos> andreasdr thanks !
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<waddlesplash> x512[m]: have you posted any code anywhere yet for rendering
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<Anarchos> how to know if a driver is blacklisted in the boot menu ?
<Anarchos> i have both vesa and radeon_hd driver present in listimage output. I wonder if the vesa only is working
<humdinger> I think the "vesa" is always present
<humdinger> what does Screen prefs say?
<Diver> on x86 vesa is always present
<Anarchos> humdinger oh sure, i didnt verify. It says radeon hd
<Anarchos> but no brightness slider :(
<humdinger> getting that brightness working for my intel_extreme was the best Haiku feature in the past 6 years for me.
<humdinger> always had the screen backlight on 100% before.
<humdinger> nearly blinded me 8)
<Anarchos> humdinger same here on my toshiba
<Vidrep_64> Hi humdinger
<humdinger> hi Vidrep_64, sen my cdrecord comment?
<humdinger> *seen
<Vidrep_64> I have
<Vidrep_64> Cloning not working
<rennj> attack of the clones!
<humdinger> Vidrep_64: so, no change then?
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<roiredX> good day
<humdinger> evening
<roiredX> hi there humdinger
<humdinger> o/
<roiredX> in order to run opengl software on Haiku... what are the requirements?
<Vidrep_64> humdinger, it failed to burn a data disc. No crash this time
<roiredX> I mean, what do I need to install from HD
<humdinger> Vidrep_64: so I should do that PR at least, even if stuff still won't worj
<humdinger> k
<Vidrep_64> Let me play some more
<humdinger> roiredX: I think OpenGL should work out of the box (?)
<roiredX> then I'm missing some file somewhere... :/
<rennj> i would think mesa!
<Anarchos> roiredX you mean native 3D ?
<roiredX> rennj, already have mesa installed
<roiredX> Anarchos, it's a pyqt software that uses opengl
<roiredX> might be opengl not available on Qt?
<Anarchos> roiredX no idea
<roiredX> Anarchos, me neither XD
<humdinger> I think extrowerk mentioned on the forums that there's no OpenGL for Qt on Haiku
<roiredX> damn...
<roiredX> I just read that 10 minutes ago
<roiredX> it's this illness of mine...
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<rennj> illegal, you need to be locked up and kept away from polite society
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<rennj> whats glteapot being done in? software or hardware?
<Anarchos> rennj software
<Anarchos> rennj there is no material acceleration
<rennj> that was red ring of death on xbox!
<rennj> you are mistaken
<Vidrep_64> humdinger, burning a Haiku anyboot iso failed
<Vidrep_64> Even though write speed was set to 4x, the log said the average write speed as 159.1x ???
<Vidrep_64> I kept the burn log
<Vidrep_64> Apparrently more fixing is needed
<humdinger> weird because neither cdrecord nor BurnItNow changed.
<rennj> primitive xorriso
<Vidrep_64> None of cdrecord functions are working, clone, burn image, data, blanking
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<humdinger> I guess that needs a dev with 1) low level skills, 2) a working cdr device, 3) the motivation to dig in
<humdinger> 0 for 3 for me... :}
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<Vidrep_64> Since I'm an end user and not a dev, working applications are important for me. I guess the solution is either use an earlier hrev or Beta
<Vidrep_64> However, if I do that, no more bug reports will be forthcoming.
<Anarchos> Vidrep_64 you can do a bug report and use an earlier hrev ;)
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<Vidrep_64> humdinger, can you do a copy/paste of what changes you made to the cdrecord fifo file?
<Vidrep_64> Just paste them to the open HaikuArchives issue
<humdinger> Vidrep_64: in cdrecord/fifo.c, line 264 or thereabouts:
<humdinger> -B_NO_LOCK, B_READ_AREA|B_WRITE_AREA);
<humdinger> +B_NO_LOCK, B_READ_AREA|B_WRITE_AREA|B_CLONEABLE_AREA);
<humdinger> I paste there too
<Vidrep_64> I think there's more than one line where that B_CLONEABLE_AREA needs to be added
<Vidrep_64> ...if I understood what waddlesplash was instructing me yesterday
<humdinger> maybe he'll post a correction at that ticket
<waddlesplash> B_CLONEABLE_AREA only needs to be applied to create_area I think
<waddlesplash> not to the clone_area invocation. though maybe I'm wrong and it does
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<roiredX> usb lock = reboot
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<Vidrep_64> humdinger, as a side note, Jörg Schilling was working on an update to cdrtools 3.02a10 which is available for download in the Schily-Tools package.
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<roiredX> bye all
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<BrunoSpr> bye
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<Vidrep_64> waddlesplash, humdinger - fifo.c#L363 beosshm_child(). I see this in the error log when cloning "cdda2wav: Child reader sem request failed. W Child exited with 9" Is there a connection?
<waddlesplash> probably. check syslog again
<Vidrep_64> KERN: team "cdda2wav" (3947) attempted to clone area "shmfifo" (36099)!
<Vidrep_64> from the cdda2wav log: 0%cdda2wav: clone_area failed cdda2wav: Child reader sem request failed. W Child exited with 9
<humdinger> "fifo, shmifo..."
<Vidrep_64> lol
<Vidrep_64> humdinger, maybe add to clone_area as well, and I can apply the patch locally
<Vidrep_64> ...or you can build another hpkg for me to download
<humdinger> this is with the B_CLONEABLE_AREA in clone_area too: http://0x0.st/-h8U.hpkg
<humdinger> ^ Vidrep_64
<Vidrep_64> Thanks
<humdinger> just wanted to make sure you seen it
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<Vidrep_64> humdinger, no difference
<humdinger> :\
<Vidrep_64> burning and cloning fail the same
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<Vidrep_64> Oh well
<Vidrep_64> I guess I'll have to use the Beta if i want to burn a disc
<humdinger> I wonder if this isn't an issue for the Haiku bugtracker. Maybe some sort of regression...
<Vidrep_64> It looks like a change in Haiku that broke things
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<humdinger> maybe file a bug there, too. to have it come to attention of more dev eyes. even if it gets closed.
<humdinger> if it's deemed not a regresseion
<humdinger> possiblly. you've identified a working hrev not much older than that
<Vidrep_64> Anyhow, thanks waddlesplash and humdinger for at least having a look
<Vidrep_64> hrev55625 was working
<humdinger> np
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<Vidrep_64> Trac ticket created
<Vidrep_64> Ofv to do errands...
<Vidrep_64> *Off
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<Cian> is the current makebootable compatible with R5 and v/versa, or has the zbeos location changed since PM came in?
<waddlesplash> Vidrep_64: yes, that's the "culprit" but that commit is entirely correct. cdrtools needs to be patched.
<waddlesplash> if those two places are not enough there may be other places that B_CLONEABLE_AREA needs to b
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] rudolfc pushed 1 commit to master [hrev55673] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=7a52a7326170+%5E3fedf64872f4
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 7a52a7326170 - intel_extreme: added IDs for ASUS laptop in ticket #16825
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<B2IA> (Cian) I'm being defeated by trying to hammer BeOS or even Zeta on to only vaguely era inappropriate hardware (~2008 and ~2009)
<B2IA> (Cian) vm_list_remove kdl on R5 on one, random general protection fault on the other. Both have way too much RAM but have the 512MB loader
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<x512[m]> waddlesplash: Do you mean RadeonGfx? Not yet. Do you want to look at code?
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<Scarecrow> the radeon work is making me reconsider my ideal haiku machine build; stick to the two xeons but swap out the 8800GTX for an early GCN card
<Vidrep_64> waddlesplash, still around?
<Vidrep_64> cdda2wav/semshm.h
<Vidrep_64> #ifdefHAVE_AREAS
<Vidrep_64> /*
<Vidrep_64> * The name of the shared memory mapping for the FIFO under BeOS.
<Vidrep_64> */
<Vidrep_64> #defineAREA_NAME"shmfifo"
<Vidrep_64> #endif
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<Vidrep_64> That's what we saw in the syslog "KERN: team "cdda2wav" (3947) attempted to clone area "shmfifo" (36099)!"
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