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<chaoticbob[m]> x512: sorry, I'm still trying to get used to this IRC bridge
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<chaoticbob[m]> I'll double check on another system I have to make sure it's building
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<chaoticbob[m]> x512: I just tested with GCC 11.2 and it builds successfully. I suspect the issue you ran into with SPIRV-Tools was the spirv-cfg refusing to build.
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<bparker_> it would be cool if that trippy blue screensaver from BeOS could be implemented in Haiku
<waddlesplash> we have that
<waddlesplash> it's called "nebula"
<bparker_> source?
<bparker_> I couldn't find it
<bparker_> also how did it get ported if haiku people didn't have the source code
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<waddlesplash> pretty sure it wasn't a BeOS original but rather a creation of a third party developer in the first place
<waddlesplash> bparker_: again it's called "nebula" and it's in the default install
<waddlesplash> said developer donated the source code (actually I think axeld was the one who wrote it originally and he's one of the core Haiku developers)
<x512[m]> chaoticbob: Thanks. I probably missed cmake configuration arguments. I have operational libvulkan.so ICD add-on loader and functional LLVMPipe, RADV (it executes, but render nothing because of stub drmIoctl implementation) add-ons. Maybe I will manage to load SwiftShader as Vulkan ICD add-on.
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<Skipp_OSX> bparker_ it's been included in Haiku for a while now https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/tree/src/add-ons/screen_savers/nebula
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<chaoticbob[m]> x512: Good stuff on RADV. Pretty excited to try it when it's ready.
<chaoticbob[m]> x512: I almost have a working Vulkan-Loader. I think it's just failing on the ICD directory scan. Hopefully once that's fixed it can pick up whatever ICDs are available.
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<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] diversys pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±3] https://git.io/JXVLI
<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] win8linux ddbbf14 - SRB2: Icon shadow and gradient fixes (#6378)
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<julicenri> Late Night Linux podcast tries Haiku annd gives their thoughts about it:
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<julicenri> It was overall positive, although some package installation slowness was observed.
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<jt15s[m]> Yeah, that was posted on the forums too
<jt15s[m]> Nonetheless, I'm really happy that they didn't experience any major issues and liked the OS
<jt15s[m]> The developers will probably need to look into the slowness of the package installation
<Niklas[m]> They said it was the download,not the installation.Maybe the servers were overloaded or their connection to the servers isn't that good?
<jt15s[m]> Yeah probably
<jt15s[m]> More package mirrors would be nice
<jt15s[m]> Plus perhaps we should take inspiration from Linux and allow the user to select the preferred mirror either in Preferences or in Installer
<Niklas[m]> We had that topic in the forums multiple times.Seems to be not possible currently as packages are not signed and could be manipulated by the mirrors.
<Niklas[m]> But there's a Cloudflare mirror which is fed over IPFS directly from Haiku,so it should be safe to use and it's fast everywhere.
<jt15s[m]> Yeah, that's true
<jt15s[m]> There is actually a blog post about IPFS that when published could let more people know about it
<jt15s[m]> Unfortunately it's been stuck in review for a while
<Niklas[m]> There were some problems with the IPFS mirror at the beginning and I don't know if people still work on it,but for me it has been perfectly stable for some months and I still receive the latest updates using it.
<jt15s[m]> I might actually try the IPFS mirrors, it's been a bit difficult on my end downloading packages
<julicenri> Cloudflare IPFS seems to be missing the HaikuPorts beta 3 x86_gcc2 repo.
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<Niklas[m]> Using the online directory listing I can find it: https://cloudflare-ipfs.com/ipns/hpkg.haiku-os.org/haiku/r1beta3/x86_gcc2 Probably you mistyped something?
<Niklas[m]> Oh wait,HaikuPorts,not Haiku...
<julicenri> Yeah, I just forgot that there's only one HaikuPorts repo since June.
<jezek2> jt15s[m]: or just download list of hashes from main download server and the actual data from the mirrors (simpler than signing)
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<x512[m]> chaoticbob: I will try to make HaikuPorts recipe for Vulkan-Loader this week.
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<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] extrowerk pushed 1 commit to gcc-11.2-fstack-protector [+0/-0/±1] https://git.io/JXrep
<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] extrowerk 359de14 - gcc: fix -fstack-protector on x86
<Not-5726> [haikuports] extrowerk created branch gcc-11.2-fstack-protector - https://git.io/vFAzP
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<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] extrowerk e2db396 - gcc: fix -fstack-protector on x86 (#6383)
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<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] korli pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://git.io/JXorA
<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] korli b926084 - gcc: bump revision
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<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] andimachovec ed7e3dc - Kottan: new maintenance release 0.14.3 that links against libcolumnlistview directly (#6384)
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<chaoticbob[m]> x512: Do you have a working Vulkan-Loader already?
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<Guest5446> jt15s, niklas: iirc they said it was /not/ the downloads, but then package installation is atomic and pretty much instant, so not sure what else would go wrong without a ticket...
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<chaoticbob> Haiku - letting me hang on to the hopes and dreams that an OS's job isn't making me hate it.
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<netpositive> 8)
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<waddlesplash> chaoticbob: :)
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<chaoticbob[m]> waddlesplash: I want to give this 4K res another try. How do I reset the config on display? I changed the it to 1080 and now it can't select 4k.
<waddlesplash> where can't you select 4k? in Screen prefs?
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<chaoticbob[m]> Correct, my list stops at 1920x1200.
<waddlesplash> so you do have a list at least?
<waddlesplash> what driver is in use? VESA?
<chaoticbob[m]> Fuji
<waddlesplash> ah, radeon_hd then
<waddlesplash> weird that 4k wouldn't appear now when it did before. kallisti5 may have something to investigate
<chaoticbob[m]> I'll give it a reboot in a minute to see if anything changes
<chaoticbob[m]> Are there any logs or dumps I can provide that would be useful?
<waddlesplash> syslog, probably
<waddlesplash> right after a boot
<chaoticbob[m]> got it - i'll grab it later today
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<lelldorin> hi all
<lorglas> hi
<lorglas> do you at home?
<lelldorin> pkgman resolve-dependencies> can i get the dependencies list without haiku packages?
<lelldorin> lorglas at home
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<chaoticbob[m]> waddlesplash: got the syslog - is there an existing ticket I should attach this to?
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<waddlesplash> don't think so, just open anew one
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<chaoticbob> Done. Thanks.
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<waddlesplash> another day, another very strange fs/vfs bug
<Guest5446> Opening links from qt apps seems to crash or freeze WebPositive :D
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] tqh pushed 1 commit to master [hrev55626] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=e6f4113978b2+%5E2ca1376080f8
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] e6f4113978b2 - [arm64] Set march to armv8.2-a+fp16, fix posix math
<Guest5446> chaoticbob: I don't suppose your display cable is a little loose?
<Guest5446> 1629KERN: radeon_hd: detect_displays: ERROR: 0 attached monitors were found on display connectors. Injecting first connector as a last resort.
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<chaoticbob[m]> I could replug in my cable.
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<chaoticbob[m]> alright, verified all the cables are plugged in
<chaoticbob[m]> powering back on
<chaoticbob[m]> I did notice that after an update a few days ago - I no longer had to use the DP + HDMI hack that I was using before to get a working display but it does shut off the display briefly right after the rocket icon and then brings it back on.
<chaoticbob[m]> rebooted - no dice
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<waddlesplash> might be that recent changed fixed one thing and broke another :)
<chaoticbob[m]> ...software development
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<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] diversys pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://git.io/JXKMm
<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] diversys f81ff7c - Sequitur: link libcolumnlistview before libtracker
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [hrev55627] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=ee4b6bdfa12a+%5Ee6f4113978b2
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] ee4b6bdfa12a - Storage: Initialize stat structure before using it.
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<waddlesplash> well ... here goes nothing
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 4 commits to master [hrev55628] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=5070f5975093+%5Eee4b6bdfa12a
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 9102cad62bec - ntfs: Update NTFS-3G to 2021.8.22.
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 30461842be66 - ntfs: Delete the old glue driver.
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 3fbe39e14d7b - ntfs: New driver glue (read support only.)
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 5070f5975093 - ntfs: New driver glue, write support.
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<x512[m]> chaoticbob: "Do you have a working Vulkan-Loader already?": Yes. It loads and run LLVMPipe, RADV and WSI Layer (I use WSI implementation in separate add-on). But it currently has hardcoded add-on path. find_directory probably should be used. Add-on path should be probably "add-ons/vulkan".
<waddlesplash> Vidrep_64: ^^ new NTFS driver merged in hrev55628
<waddlesplash> please do give it a spin. as far as I can tell all the KDLs and other issues are gone
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] kallisti5 pushed 1 commit to master [hrev55629] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=ec8a8f1c0222+%5E5070f5975093
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] ec8a8f1c0222 - libroot/riscv64: minor riscv64 fixes
<chaoticbob[m]> x512: Gotcha. I assume since this isn't Linux, users are fine to modify /system/add-ons? Linux has the search path for $HOME/.local/share/vulkan/icd.d as well
<chaoticbob[m]> x512: Are your changes up on github anywhere? I'd like to compare it to what i have so far.
<x512[m]> I plan to use find_directory for Haiku, so search paths will be like /boot/home/config/add-ons/vulkan, /boot/home/config/non-packaged/add-ons/vulkan, /boot/system/add-ons/vulkan, /boot/system/non-packaged/add-ons/vulkan.
<x512[m]> I have not yet published code. I probably can do it today.
<chaoticbob[m]> Cool. It would be nice to have a loader and the libvulkan.so as well instead of having to copy/link the SwiftShader so directly
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] kallisti5 pushed 1 commit to master [hrev55630] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=4a025c8e74a3+%5Eec8a8f1c0222
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 4a025c8e74a3 - libroot: revert __clz_tab change. Didn't mean to put that in yet
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