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<rennj> e-donuts for all!
<rennj> zero calorie
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 5 commits to master [hrev55643] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=cf5edc844850+%5Ee4f18add748d
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] f35fc7ebdaf7 - Remove some dynamic exception specifiers.
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] eeddcfffbe20 - accelerants: Fix mismatched prototypes.
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 91a0b530407f - HaikuDepot: Do not inadvertently modify the real errno.
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 52f87edca5aa - Time: operator() on the comparator structure must be const.
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] cf5edc844850 - accelerants: Add default case for xy_command initialization.
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<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes pushed 1 commit to master [+3/-2/±0] https://git.io/J1zMw
<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes afaa9a1 - LibrePCB: bump version
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<countryboy> hello
<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] diversys pushed 1 commit to master [+2/-2/±1] https://git.io/J1zbC
<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] sikmir b98bff8 - GPXSee: bump to 9.12 (#6414)
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<BrunoSpr> how to stop or pause BeScreenCapture?
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<Anarchos> what is the good file to put 'ssh-add' ? I put it into ~/config/profile but it launches each time i open Terminal, instead of once for the session
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<Anarchos> I failed to compile pxehaiku-loader : https://pastebin.com/um0BwTnY
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<waddlesplash> Anarchos: it's called haiku_loader.pxe_ia32 now
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<Anarchos> waddlesplash thanks, https://www.haiku-os.org/guides/network_booting/ must be updated according to that .
<waddlesplash> I think network booting is broken atm anyway
<Anarchos> waddlesplash that is why i want to try it :)
<Anarchos> nobody seems to have a dhcp/tftp boot installation for haiku to test it, so i did at home
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<Anarchos> waddlesplash is it ok to compile it : HAIKU_REVISION=hrev55643 TARGET_BOOT_PLATFORM=pxe_ia32 jam -q haiku_loader.pxe_ia32
<waddlesplash> you don't need TARGET_BOOT_PLATFORM anymore either
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [hrev55644] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=a7639d238970+%5Ecf5edc844850
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] a7639d238970 - libroot_debug: Add aligned_alloc implementation.
<Anarchos> waddlesplash i am on ubuntu to cross-compile
<waddlesplash> sure, that's fine
<waddlesplash> you don't need TARGET_BOOT_PLATFORM, it was removed
<Anarchos> not sure if it worked.
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<waddlesplash> so! Mimeset crashing/looping forever under GCC11 is optimization-related. compiling just Directory.cpp with -O1 fixes it, -O2 causes the breakage
<waddlesplash> time to determine what exactly is happening and whose fault it is
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<mbrumbelow[m]> waddlesplash: I commented on the ticket.
<waddlesplash> yes, it is
<mbrumbelow[m]> There is a lot going on with -O2 vs just -O1.
<waddlesplash> yes
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<waddlesplash> the culprit function is: BDirectory::GetNextRef(entry_ref* ref)
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<PulkoMandy> did you try -fsanitize=undefined to check for undefined behavior? Not sure how easy it is to get that running in Haiku
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<waddlesplash> no, I didn't
<waddlesplash> I don't think it works in userland yet. I have a Linux setup here but it has GCC 9 not 11
<Anarchos> ./objects/haiku/x86_gcc2/release/system/boot/pxe_ia32/haiku_loader.pxe_ia32 --> is it this file to serve through tftp ?
<waddlesplash> relevant portion starts on diff line 80
<waddlesplash> it looks like -O2 deleted almost the whole function?!
<waddlesplash> _ZN10BDirectory10GetNextRefEP9entry_ref.part.0
<waddlesplash> oh, it moved it to a .part
<Anarchos> waddlesplash BDirectory::GetNextRef(entry_ref*) [clone .part.0]
<waddlesplash> yes
* Anarchos always use c++filt to demangle classes
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<waddlesplash> added a second part to the gist
<waddlesplash> oh no
<waddlesplash> -fno-builtin-strcmp fixes it
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<waddlesplash> ... who wants to bet gcc is assuming that can't be any more than 1
* waddlesplash sighs
<Anarchos> waddlesplash you mean the d_name ?
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<waddlesplash> indeed using a 0-sized array fixes the problem
<waddlesplash> however, then GCC throws "stringop-overread" warnings. so, how do we avoid that
<waddlesplash> boot/home/Desktop/haiku/headers/posix/dirent.h:19:33: error: flexible array member 'dirent::d_name' not at end of 'struct BPrivate::Storage::LongDirEntry'
<Anarchos> waddlesplash i would have written a char* instead of char[]
<waddlesplash> Anarchos: no, this is correct, we need char[]
<waddlesplash> they are different in this scenario
<Anarchos> waddlesplash ah, i am not skilled enough in char* vs char[]
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<Anarchos> i always take them for equivalent
<waddlesplash> they aren't in structures. the latter means a variable length array
<Anarchos> ok
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<tqh> I think we use 0 sized arrays in some places.
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<PulkoMandy> gcc2 does not use the same syntax as standard C/C++ for them
<PulkoMandy> one needs [] and the other needs [0]
<waddlesplash> [0] is fine, gcc4 accepts that
<PulkoMandy> for dirent I think it should be possible to declare the structure with a size of B_FILE_NAME_LENGTH directly? Isn't that what is done in other OS already? or if that's not desirable for some reason, LongDirEntry needs to be declared in some other way
<waddlesplash> the problem is we are using [1], which means it may or may not be treated as a VLA, depending on whether or not it is included in another struct
<waddlesplash> using [0] does cause GCC to throw an error instead of optimizing the code incorrectly
<waddlesplash> so, it appears we need to use [0] and then fix whatever assumed it was [1]
<PulkoMandy> I can think of various options, but probably union { struct dirent; char buffer[B_FILE_NAME_LENGTH + sizeof(struct dirent);}; is the simplest and safest
<waddlesplash> yes, the union approach is probably safest but also will require rewriting some code
<PulkoMandy> will it? with an anonymous member in the union this should be transparent, I think
<waddlesplash> oh
<waddlesplash> union LongDirEntry { struct dirent; char _buffer[B_FILE_NAME_LENGTH]; };
<waddlesplash> src/build/libbe/storage/Directory.cpp:362:39: error: 'union BPrivate::Storage::LongDirEntry' has no member named 'd_name'
<waddlesplash> no luck
<PulkoMandy> ok, the other option is to repeat the fields from dirent in LongDirEntry, IIRC the C standards guarantees that the layout of the two structures will be compatible then (this is how sockaddr vs sockaddr_in is handled)
<waddlesplash> then we have to add weird casts
<waddlesplash> I think the best option is to either (1) use a macro, or (2) add operator()
<PulkoMandy> the other option is declaring struct dirent with a large fixed size buffer, I think some of the other unix do that
<waddlesplash> yes but then we run into problems that things assume dirent is larger than it is, may break ABI
<PulkoMandy> I don't see where people would assume that
<PulkoMandy> you're already expected to have a name after the dirent everywhere in our API
<waddlesplash> yes, but how long is the name? ti varies
<waddlesplash> we actually make use of this in the kernel to pass back multiple dirents at onnce
<waddlesplash> instead of having to use all 1024 bytes
<waddlesplash> yeah, ok, so they are using dynamic sizing a different way
<PulkoMandy> yes, but we don't rely on the size of the struct anywhere I think. It would break the API (if you recompile the same code, suddenly you will allocate 255 more bytes in some cases) but I think it wouldn't break the ABI for already compiled code
<waddlesplash> I think just using [0] is easier
<waddlesplash> that is technically also an API break, but not as big of one
<PulkoMandy> I don't remember the rules for sizeof() in C++, possibly it doesn't even break API
<waddlesplash> I think I'm just going to use the macro solution here
<PulkoMandy> well it looks like flexible arrays made it to C++ only in C++14. In C99 their size is 0 (but they can add padding at the end of the struct). gcc2 predates both C99 and C++14 so... I have no idea :)
<waddlesplash> I can't find a way to conveniently construct something that GCC is appeased with
<waddlesplash> unless, I have one last idea for an insane hack
<waddlesplash> hey it worked!
<waddlesplash> struct LongDirContents { char _[B_PATH_NAME_LENGTH]; };
<waddlesplash> struct LongDirEntry : dirent, LongDirContents {};
<waddlesplash> go figure
<waddlesplash> GCC goes back to saying "src/build/libbe/storage/Directory.cpp:362:32: warning: 'int strcmp(const char*, const char*)' reading 1 or more bytes..."
<waddlesplash> because Wstringop-overread is apparently very dumb
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<tqh> nice, $ works as a function name :)
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<waddlesplash> mh, all filesystems kind of assume sizeof(dirent) includes the 1 byte
<waddlesplash> guess I get to fix all them
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<PulkoMandy> well, if changing the size fron 1 to B_PATH_NAME_LENGTH is an API or ABI break, so is changing from 1 to 0
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<waddlesplash> right, but much easier to remove a -1 or add a +1 then the much different math of B_PATH_NAME_LENGTH
<x512[m]> Adding `char string[0]; char stub;` may fix problem.
<waddlesplash> ???
<waddlesplash> no, it won't
<waddlesplash> that causes GCC to throw many errors
<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] korli pushed 2 commits to master [+5/-0/±0] https://git.io/J1a9F
<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] korli 810e583 - qtwebengine: new recipe
<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] korli 6b7fce3 - falkon: new recipe
<waddlesplash> !!!!!!!!!!!!
<waddlesplash> WOW
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<x512[m]> ?
<mbrumbelow[m]> Fixed?
<bitigchi> Wat
<waddlesplash> it's 13 versions behind apparently, but still, that's very impressive
<Niklas[m]> Does this new QtWebEngine port mean that QtWebEngine on Haiku actually works or is this just another unfinished draft?
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<waddlesplash> no, it actually works
<waddlesplash> at least according to korli's notes
<Niklas[m]> That's great!Will try tomorrow :D
<waddlesplash> if it's even available by then lol
<waddlesplash> who knows how long the buildbot is going to take on this one
<Niklas[m]> If it will be available in the repo soon (even if it takes a few days),I can wait.But compiling it myself also shouldn't be that much of a problem if it's just running Haikuporter.
<waddlesplash> it will take literal hours to build :p
<waddlesplash> yes, may as well just wait for the buildbot
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<Niklas[m]> Compiling shouldn't be that much of a problem with an 8-core i7 cpu but I don't really want to download the whole Chromium source to my rather small 500GB SSD
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 2 commits to master [hrev55645] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=ec21dc91b1f8+%5Ea7639d238970
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 28c8a16a5ae6 - libbe_build: Synchronize Node.cpp with the main one.
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] ec21dc91b1f8 - libbe_build: Synchronize Directory.cpp with the main one.
<rennj> and couple GB of diskspace
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [hrev55646] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=9cc171821247+%5Eec21dc91b1f8
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 9cc171821247 - libbe_build: Fix build on non-Haiku platforms.
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<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] korli pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://git.io/J1aFy
<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] korli 64d1234 - qtwebengine: updates SUMMARY and DESCRIPTION
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<nagerst> do anyone know if the hidden dma boot option is added in new relases nowadays? jessicah helped me last time to install haiku, but i do not remember how i got it to works last time. It was one of the boot options that failed... i would like to write it down
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<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] korli pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://git.io/J1axW
<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] korli 8f65040 - bear: remove -lstdc++-fs from the patch
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<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] korli pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-1/±0] https://git.io/J1ajk
<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] korli d57b310 - libwebp: bump version
<waddlesplash> qtwebengine at [3295/21219]
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 6 commits to master [hrev55647] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=1cb5cfb244d9+%5E9cc171821247
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 8f03af00f811 - Storage: Rework LongDirEntry to be a union.
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 9d242fb955e6 - file_systems & Tracker: Do not assume sizeof(dirent) contains 1 byte for the name.
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 7db2616c4448 - dirent: Use an actual flexible-length array for d_name.
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] afcfd3c5d55f - BeBuild: Remove B_ALWAYS_INLINE.
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] d9df25670400 - FUSEVolume: Add a ROUNDUP() macro and use it.
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 1cb5cfb244d9 - libroot_build: Use a union for dirent structures.
<waddlesplash> well, there it is
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<BrunoSpr> hi all... anyone knows why PecoBeat does not find my mouse?
<Not-5726> [haiku/haikuwebkit] pulkomandy pushed 19 commits to haiku [+50/-8/±221] https://git.io/J1VJk
<Not-5726> [haiku/haikuwebkit] heycam 2341cc1 - Change some bitwise OR operators to logical OR
<Not-5726> [haiku/haikuwebkit] AndresGonzalezApple 2054ce9 - Move handling of ChildrenChanged notifications out of the AccessibilityObjects into AXObjectCache.
<Not-5726> [haiku/haikuwebkit] Alan Bujtas dfa9745 - [LFC][IFC] Add unicode-bidi control characters
<Not-5726> [haiku/haikuwebkit] ... and 16 more commits.
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<nagerst> what does the library ending .so really stand for?
<waddlesplash> shared object
<nagerst> used in many nix systems that qualify for posix certification
<nagerst> waddlesplash: thank you
<nagerst> waddlesplash: kinda like a dll or more like a com object?
<nagerst> sorry to waste your time to educate me.
<waddlesplash> com objects are stored in shared objects
<waddlesplash> dll are shared objects, yes
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<nagerst> what would you call a lib that is not shared. I mean what would the extension be in haiku.
<waddlesplash> nothing
<nagerst> good point
<nagerst> did not think that through
<nagerst> but why is some libs named .so and some have no file ending at all?
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<nagerst> intereesting
<nagerst> I had no idea that java would be slower than javascript. Perhaps the test i tilted.
<nagerst> oh i read it wrong
<nagerst> it uses more space
<nagerst> and that is logical
<nagerst> i had no idea that fortran was such a memory hog
<nagerst> that C would use less memory i get, but that pascal and GO would use less baffles me.
<nagerst> BASIC is not included in the test though.
<Anarchos> NaGERST a static library ends with .a
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