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<waddlesplash> Vidrep_64: that is really weird. it uses ntfs twice??
<waddlesplash> the first time it succeeds and then says out of memory
<waddlesplash> do you have an ntfs driver in no packaged or something? or two haiku packages installed somehow, maybe one in ~/?
<waddlesplash> open a ticket please either way, this is very strange
<Vidrep_64> No to both questions
<Vidrep_64> I tested another NTFS drive that will mount OK, and writing to the drive is much faster now. Deleting large files does not crash anymore either.
<Vidrep_64> Previously writing speeds were in the kb/s speed range, now it's 12 - 14 Mb/s
<Vidrep_64> I'll try these these same two thumb drives on my other PC, which has not been updated yet with the new driver
<Vidrep_64> If they work, I'll grab a syslog before/after updating
<Vidrep_64> waddlesplash, "this is very strange". My specialty :)
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<Vidrep_64> waddlesplash, I was able to duplicate the issue with the same two drives on another PC
<Vidrep_64> Both drives working on hrev55608, not working on hrev55632
<Vidrep_64> gn
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<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-1/±0] https://git.io/JXSXe
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<Not-5726> [haiku/website] humdingerb 24e137f - Fix typo in build guide
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<Begasus> g'morning peeps
<netposit1ve> morning
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] pulkomandy pushed 1 commit to master [hrev55634] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=cdd2ed5a77b4+%5Ecb3199681eb2
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] cdd2ed5a77b4 - kernel/x86: CPUID leaf 0x1f is a preferred superset to leaf 0x0b
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<Begasus> hi netposit1ve
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<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes 2593d3f - PPSSPP: bump version
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<Not-5726> [haiku/website] pulkomandy 6610c7a - Get ready for GSoC 2022.
<Begasus> I could apply as a student next year :P
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<PulkoMandy> it's never too late :p
<Begasus> heh
<Begasus> career switch by the time I get my pension ^^
<PulkoMandy> it seems there are no official rules published yet. I'm a bit curious how they will restrict it to new contributors and not existing one
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<Begasus> right, you could apply also then ;)
<PulkoMandy> I don't want yet another full-time job on top of all the things I'm already doing :)
<Begasus> bugger, parse errors on m4 ...
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<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] BeagleJoe 8b41f1b - workaround for exit crash (#6360)
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<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 6f9898d - yaml-cpp, bump version, import patches from Gentoo (#6374)
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<aa55[m]> <humdinger> "aa55: it means you'll have to..." <- Hey humdinger, so I have compiled haiku
<aa55[m]> what should I do next?
<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±4] https://git.io/JX9FC
<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 453e9c6 - Revbump recipes for new yaml-cpp version (#6387)
<PulkoMandy> hello aa55[m], did you have a look at the list of project ideas? I just published a first version today for 2022 earlier today: https://www.haiku-os.org/community/gsoc/2022/ideas
<PulkoMandy> is there something there that particularly interests you? or do you have your own ideas what you'd like to work on?
<PulkoMandy> depending on which parts you want to work on, it may be more convenient to work from haiku, or work cross-compiling from Linux and testing in a virtual machine. Also we can help find tasks that seem related to what you want to do, and start a discussion with the people who know that general area of Haiku (here or maybe on the forum or mailing lists)
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<aa55[m]> <PulkoMandy> "is there something there that..." <- Since the Haiku Project is very large, I don't know where my interest lies currently. Right now I am just trying to go with the flow and I hope that I would be able to find something cool
<Not-5726> [haiku/website] pulkomandy pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://git.io/JX9xk
<Not-5726> [haiku/website] pulkomandy 5af0fce - GSoC: add 2022 ideas list and FAQ to main page
<PulkoMandy> ves) and see if there is something you want to work on there
<PulkoMandy> ok, in that case the best thing to do is probably play with Haiku a bit, install some applications (if you're not using it already), and find an area you think needs improvements. If you want to start writing code, one way to do that is look at existing bugreports in haiku (http://dev.haiku-os.org), haikuports (http://github.com/haikuports) or applications from haikuarchives (http://github.com/haikuarchi
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<countryboy> hello, simply hello ...
<PulkoMandy> another thing that can give a good starting point for first patches is looking at work in progress on the code review tool (http://review.haiku-os.org), there are a lot of unfinished patches there that need some reworking (sometimes it's just some code formatting problems, sometimes it's deeper issues). You can pick one of these, read the review comments, and submit an updated version of the patch
<PulkoMandy> certainly getting our list of work in progress patches a bit shorter would be very welcome
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<aa55[m]> <PulkoMandy> "another thing that can give a..." <- sure, I'll have a look at this. in case of some issue/problem, I'll ping here😀.
<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://git.io/JXHe1
<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 0499ed0 - openxcom and supermariowar, revbump for -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Release (#6388)
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<Anarchos> aa55[m] i also gave you the easy tasks list yesterday
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<Anarchos> PulkoMandy hello PulkoMandy !
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<Anarchos> PulkoMandy is there something i can do to help identify why my touchscreen is not recognized as such ?
<aa55[m]> Anarchos: hello Anarchos
<PulkoMandy> did you open a ticket and provide USB HID descriptors already? (assuming it is USB)
<aa55[m]> I went through the tickets yesterday
<aa55[m]> I think that (this)[https://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/5033] might be somewhat easy task for me
<aa55[m]> I have already worked on i3 and bspwm, so changing something like this might be doable
<PulkoMandy> yes, seems good
<PulkoMandy> I think this is the code that needs to be changed: https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/tree/src/servers/app/WorkspacesView.cpp#n469
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<aa55[m]> PulkoMandy: Noice, I'll have a look at this
<Anarchos> PulkoMandy not yet but i will.
<PulkoMandy> it will be helpful, otherwise I will jsut ask the same questions everytime we talk about it because I don't remember things
<PulkoMandy> attach the output of listusb -v, the syslog, and the hid descriptors that are found in /tmp if there are any
<Anarchos> aa55[m] Concerning https://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/5033, don't forget that modifiers keys can be modified from the Keymap preferences
<Anarchos> PulkoMandy ok no trouble i will do it
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<aa55[m]> Anarchos: 👍️
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<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] pulkomandy pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-0/±0] https://git.io/JXHZ5
<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] pulkomandy f7ec3fb - Add recipe for the Jamfile engine
<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://git.io/JXH8l
<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes 543946f - PPSSPP: fix crash on exit
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<roiredX> good day
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<B2IA> (AGMS) Hi roiredX,
<roiredX> hello there B2IA
<B2IA> (AGMS) good day too! Sunny and freezing over here.
<roiredX> not so freezing in here
<roiredX> :]
<B2IA> (AGMS) On the other hand, not snowing here :-) Rememberence Day sometimes has sleet - freezing slush.
<B2IA> (AGMS) But not today, cheerful clear blue sky.
<roiredX> update finished... reboot... brb
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<roiredX> back
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<Begasus> front
<roiredX> hi ther Begasus
<roiredX> e
<Begasus> hi roiredX :)
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<B2IA> (AGMS) Running a Nightly Haiku build, roiredX?
<roiredX> yes
<roiredX> on this box
<B2IA> (AGMS) I have a nightly I use for testing and development, works on bare metal or in a VM.
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<B2IA> (AGMS) Since yours seems to be working, time to update mine :-)
<roiredX> XD
<Begasus> :D
<roiredX> mine never stopped working
<roiredX> only some issues
<Begasus> still (mostly) on R1B3 here
<roiredX> mostly, mostly...
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<B2IA> (AGMS) Right, I should update the BeShare bridge from Beta2 to Beta3, see if the networking works better (detects dropped connections).
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<roiredX> let's see if i can make a travelling VM
<roiredX> with Haiku
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<roiredX> by the way, nightlies disappeared from the download section
<B2IA> (AGMS) Hmmm, that could be my job for today. Also have to figure out how to rebuild updated custom versions of Vision and BeShare for the bridge (they add scripting calls to post data).
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<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+2/-2/±0] https://git.io/JXH6f
<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus e7ccc73 - opencolorio, revive version 1.1.1 (#6389)
<B2IA> (AGMS) I see the Nightlies still there, roiredX, https://download.haiku-os.org/
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<roiredX> damn... they are... I was going to the dl page from the haiku website
<roiredX> XD
<roiredX> thanks B2IA
<B2IA> (AGMS) There's also a tab on the home page that leasds to the nightly images.
<roiredX> damn... next tuesday i have appointment to check my eyes... no wonder
<roiredX> XD
<roiredX> yes, check eyes and a vacation
<roiredX> XD
<B2IA> (AGMS) Now updating two Haiku VMs, in parallel!
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<B2IA> (AGMS) One to latest nightly, other to Beta3 latest fixes.
<roiredX> yes, I should move this box to beta, instead of nightly
<roiredX> maybe?
<B2IA> (AGMS) Depends on whether you want relability or latest software.
<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://git.io/JXHPX
<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 09d7967 - opencolorio1, fix boost version requirement (#6390)
<B2IA> (AGMS) I'd compile things on Beta3 so they don't pick up new library symbols in the nightly which won't work on Beta3.
<Begasus> hence I keep my main system on R1B3 AGMS :)
<B2IA> (AGMS) Yup, learned that the hard way a few times.
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<B2IA> (AGMS) Hmmm, Beta3 update is downloading gcc 11.2.
<roiredX> interesting point of view
<Begasus> k, opencolorio1 building now ...
<Begasus> yep AGMS, even on the beta we have the new compiler :)
<Begasus> fixed some things (for instance gerbera)
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<Begasus> building latest yacreader ... takes like forever ...
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<B2IA> (AGMS) I guess that's because HaikuPorts updated gcc. Guess there isn't a separate Beta3 branch over there.
<roiredX> I have the feeling that I need to do a cleanup of everything
<roiredX> XD
<roiredX> cleanup = clean install
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<roiredX> task for xmas?
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<roiredX> bye all
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<B2IA> (AGMS) Bye.
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<B2IA> (AGMS) Now back to the updates and setting up Git...
<Begasus> bugger, build failed for opencolorio1 :( (means still no blender)
<B2IA> (AGMS) Blender? That's pretty ambitious.
<B2IA> (AGMS) ambitious
<Begasus> not going to build it, just tried to fix the dependency reported at: https://eu.hpkg.haiku-os.org/haikuports/master/x86_64/current/report.txt
<B2IA> (AGMS) Where's that spellcheck for BTextView feature? :-)
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<PulkoMandy> AGMS: there is https://github.com/ErisBlastar/spellswell and https://github.com/ErisBlastar/wordservices but I'm unable to tell if these actually include sourcecode and how exactly they fit together
<B2IA> (AGMS) Nice idea of having a "Word Services" BMessage server.
<B2IA> (AGMS) Huh, for Mac and BeOS. I wonder if the spam checker would fit in there as a service.
<PulkoMandy> apparently the client side (what you would put in a BTextView) is open source, but the server side isn't. So it's a matter of rewriting that? And integrating the client side in Haiku or in applications
<Begasus> is/isn't ?
<B2IA> (AGMS) Hmmm, still have too much other stuff to do. GSOC idea?
<PulkoMandy> I was thinking about it, yes, but we need a mentor and still dig a bit into this code to see roughly in what state it is
<B2IA> (AGMS) And it looks like the spamdbm in Haiku is partly broken. May have to fix it since my ISP is moving to SSL secured e-mail and BeOS will no longer work :-(
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] pulkomandy pushed 1 commit to master [hrev55635] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=d4e4909c6a3f+%5Ecdd2ed5a77b4
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] d4e4909c6a3f - Jamfile engine: move to a separate repository
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<Vidrep_64> PulkoMandy, thanks for keeping your promise to have a look at StreamRadio
<PulkoMandy> I only did brief testing. No crashes but also no audio output, I'm not sure if it's again a soundcard driver acting strange, or a problem in the app
<Vidrep_64> If I build now from the haikuports recipe, it should include the latest code, correct?
<B2IA> (AGMS) And of course, spent the last half hour trying to get Git to access Gerrit. SSH key problems, doesn't seem to know the key I set (no mutual signature algorithm).
<B2IA> (AGMS) Anyone know what type of ssh key it needs from ssh-keygen?
<PulkoMandy> Vidrep_64, I didn't update the recipe, so no, it won't be included there
<PulkoMandy> AGMS, I don't know, I have an old RSA key that seems to work. At the time I thnk I just ran ssh-keygen without any specific arguments
<Vidrep_64> So I have to build directly from the HaikuArchives
<PulkoMandy> I probably should replace it
<PulkoMandy> yes
<B2IA> (AGMS) Doesn't like the default one. Or maybe my SSH client is too new and I have to reenable older signing algorithms.
<PulkoMandy> seems strange
<Vidrep_64> Building from the haikuports recipe I get this, "HttpUtils.h:12:10: fatal error: HttpRequest.h: No such file or directory"
<Vidrep_64> I'll try directly now from HaikuArchives
<PulkoMandy> AGMS: internet search suggests ssh-keygen -t rsa to force RSA. I don't know what other key types are supported by Gerrit
<Guest5446> Vidrep_64: likely because of netapi changes
<PulkoMandy> not even sure if it's specifically gerrit or the ssh access we put in front of it. Maybe kallisti5 would know?
<Vidrep_64> Guest5446, yes, those changes were made in HaikuArchives already
<B2IA> (AGMS) Thanks, trying an ed25519 key now...
<B2IA> (AGMS) Yay, that worked!
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<countryboy> do you need some apps in freebasic ?
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<Vidrep_64> PulkoMandy, must be your sound card, audio is OK here on StreamRadio build from HaikuArchives
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<cocobean> blender 2.93.5 builds fine on Haiku x64. I didn't test on the buildbots yet.
<cocobean> Use the newer SDL2 patches too.
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<Begasus> PulkoMandy, can confirm here, StreamRadio working again :) Thanks!
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<Begasus> Not sure why this station doesn't seem to be "catched"? https://ibb.co/DC1RqF2
<Vidrep_64> Begasus, that's something I've always seen with certain stations
<Begasus> it worked earlier on that station Vidrep_64
<Vidrep_64> Begasus, we should discuss with humdinger about a revision bump. StreamRadio has been in a broken state in HaikuDepot for over a year
<Begasus> yeah, didn't notice the changes before I saw your comment earlier here Vidrep_64
<Vidrep_64> Begasus, I also have stations that used to work, but don't work afterward for whatever reason. It's always been like that
<Vidrep_64> Possibly because the station changed something
<Begasus> Could be Vidrep_64 most important thing, it's working again! :D
<Vidrep_64> We can possibly close a bunch of issues with this revision bump
<Begasus> seems like it doesn't like the icecast links?
<countryboy> ice from water = water xD
<Begasus> nah, other stations using icecast links seem to work ...
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<Vidrep_64> We need to get the revision number sorted out. Revision number in HaikuDepot is 0.0.5_1-1. Version number if built from haikuArchives is 0.0.4
<Vidrep_64> Does 0.0.6 sound about right for a revision bump?
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<Begasus> crash ;)
<Begasus> I think so Vidrep_64
<Begasus> not sure why the revision number changed there?
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<Begasus> 'lo humdinger :)
<humdinger> oi oi
<humdinger> StreamRadio, eh?
<humdinger> wrt versions, why not call this thing 1.0 and do away with all those prefix zeros.
<Begasus> Paste shoutcast URL crashes here
<Begasus> I'm ok with that humdinger , atleast we have something working now :)
<humdinger> I just updated the catkeys. There are 3 additional strings now.
<humdinger> If anyone wants to do a quick update: https://i18n.kacperkasper.pl/projects/29
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<Anarchos> PulkoMandy https://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/17394 touchscreen ticket :)
<Vidrep_64> Hi humdinger
<Begasus> heading down here, I'll peek into the logs tomorrow
<Begasus> g'night peeps
<Vidrep_64> gn
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<extrowerk_3> I made a Haiku port for this stuff but they haven't managed to merge it in the last almost 3 years :( https://github.com/kelseyhightower/nocode/pull/1525/files
<humdinger> extrowerk_3: don't be hasty.
<humdinger> hum hom
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<extrowerk_3> humdinger: ok, i just cook instead something to eat then :)
<humdinger> that's right. Fatten up for the winter.
<BrunoSpr> me too
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<BrunoSpr> cooking for fun
<extrowerk_3> humdinger: : how is the situation in DE nowadays? I just returned from the UK and later have to go back to DE. Lockdown, 2G/3G? I don1t follow any news, so i have no idea.
<humdinger> high numbers of infections. hospitals will soon reach their limits.
<humdinger> 3G with talks about going to 2G.
<humdinger> A lockdown is currently not in the talks.
<humdinger> but things can change...
<humdinger> I don't think they'll lock down again though.
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<humdinger> good IMO
<humdinger> I'd increase the pressure on the unvaxxed. more 2G.
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<extrowerk_3> IDK, for me the corona thing was so far really positive. i wasn't in the office since what? 2 years? I don't even recall. I think all of the WFH started around in april 2019 or so. Then almost 2 years.
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<humdinger> (explaination for non_germans: 2 G is recovered and vaxxed. 3G is recovered, vaxxed or tested)
<humdinger> 1.5 years
<extrowerk_3> We don't even have an office anymore... Ok, we have, but previously it was 200+ m^2, now it is some 16m^2, with 3 desk. The employees even standing can't fit in that office.
<humdinger> WFH?
<extrowerk_3> WorkFromHome
<humdinger> ah
<extrowerk_3> they call it WHF in the UK.
<humdinger> work home from
<extrowerk_3> Wery High Frequency.
<humdinger> yoda says
<extrowerk_3> oh, true, it is Wery Frequency High then.
<extrowerk_3> Diver: plop. How is the situation in RU? Can tourist visit RU already?
<humdinger> Vidrep_64: Let's wait a few days if the translations catch up at Polyglot and publish StreamRadio then.
<humdinger> Vidrep_64: feel free to spam the URL https://i18n.kacperkasper.pl/projects/29 now and then :)
<Diver> extrowerk_3: I haven't checked but it is possible for some countries for sure
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<extrowerk_3> Should i buy the concert-tickets for march? It will be in Cologne... Hmmm..
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<PulkoMandy> no in person coding sprints or other events for another few months I guess...
<extrowerk_3> According to the internet if i want to travel to the farthest point from my home i should go to NZ. Hmmm.. Not even a bad idea.
<Diver> extrowerk_3: do not go to Russia in march :) June - Sept is the best
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<extrowerk_3> Diver: you already warned me :)
<extrowerk_3> But the concert will be in cologne. Thats a totally different direction :)
<Diver> indeed :)
<extrowerk_3> Maybe i just go to NZ, i sit on the coast, let the ocean wash my feets and drink a beer, because i can't got further.
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<Not-5726> [haiku/infrastructure] kallisti5 pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-1/±5] https://git.io/JX7tz
<Not-5726> [haiku/infrastructure] kallisti5 aa16a4b - containers/cgit: Update; fix nginx reverse proxy; fix about rendering
<Vidrep_64> humdinger, isn't this pull request dealing with the same subject matter as the one PulkoMandy closed today? https://github.com/HaikuArchives/StreamRadio/pull/34
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<PulkoMandy> it seems to have more changes (style fixes and maybe a few more things)
<B2IA> (Butler) Welcome to BeShare.agmsmith.ca.
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<humdinger> Vidrep_64: let's leave that #34 PR for now. maybe codeforevolution comes back one day to finish it...
<Vidrep_64> At least it's working now, which is the main thing
* humdinger nods
<Vidrep_64> So, are you going to call it revision 1.0?
<humdinger> Yeah, why not. all this 0.0.whatever is weird.
<Vidrep_64> Agreed
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