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<augiedoggie> still kind of sucks that you can't see flagged posts on the forums
* augiedoggie wonders if nielx[m] knows about it
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<erysdren> is it possible for a program to add a new deskbar category alongside Applications, Preferences, Applets
<erysdren> etc
<erysdren> i want to add a "Games" category or some such thing
<coolcoder613_32> ~/config/settings/deskbar/menu
<erysdren> that folder is empty for me
<erysdren> what should it have in it?
<erysdren> oh i see
<coolcoder613_32> make a new folder called Games
<erysdren> yeah
<coolcoder613_32> and link the games to it
<erysdren> could a program in HaikuPorts create a folder in the system-wide version and place itself there?
<erysdren> i really wanna put all my game ports in a Games directory
<erysdren> rather than under Applications
<coolcoder613_32> I think so...
<erysdren> ill ask Begasus when he's around
<erysdren> augiedoggie, would you like to weigh in?
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<coolcoder613_32> change addAppDeskbarSymlink to something else?
<erysdren> yeah
<erysdren> i'm just asking if it's "allowed"
<coolcoder613_32> take a look at the DeskbarEyes recipe
<coolcoder613_32> You should probably symlink to both Applications and Games
* coolcoder613_32 goes to try it out for digger
<coolcoder613_32> I cant use haikuporter, because of the wget timeout!
<augiedoggie> there have been many bikesheds on the forums about it
<erysdren> oh i'm sure
<erysdren> so the answer is "no"?
<augiedoggie> i don't have a problem with creating some basic categories but that decision is above my pay grade
<erysdren> hmm
<erysdren> ok
<augiedoggie> i almost never use the leaf menu anyhow
<coolcoder613_32> What do you use?
<augiedoggie> a custom version of quicklaunch
<augiedoggie> i like keyboard launchers, i use krunner in linux all the time too
<erysdren> i wonder what the system version of the path for ~/config/settings/deskbar/menu would be
<coolcoder613_32> system/data/deskbar/menu
<erysdren> thanks
<erysdren> waddlesplash, did you want to weigh in?
<erysdren> if it's anyone's pay grade i'm sure it'd be yours :P
<waddlesplash> not really tbh
<waddlesplash> sounds like a bikeshed :-p
<erysdren> darn
<erysdren> maybe i'll just do a PR for the games that i've ported myself, and see what people say
<erysdren> lol
<coolcoder613_32> +1
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<erysdren> so, there's no way to mirror the EFI FrameBuffer driver out through hdmi?
<erysdren> for example, to put a laptop's display on a different monitor
<coolcoder613_32> Try maybe keeping the laptop closed while booting?
<erysdren> hmm
<erysdren> will try
<erysdren> brb
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<coolcoder613_32> Did it work?
<erysdren> no lol
<erysdren> kernel panic
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<coolcoder613_32> build-requires "haiku_devel" of package "anura-4.0.2" could not be resolved
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<erysdren> coolcoder613_32: `haiku${secondaryArchSuffix}_devel`
<erysdren> ?
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<Begasus> g'morning peeps
<coolcoder613_32> Hi Begasus
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<Begasus> Hello coolcoder613_32
<coolcoder613_32> on 32-bit: build-requires "haiku_devel" of package "digger-20020314" could not be resolved
<Begasus> this should be haiku_x86_devel?
<Begasus> how are you building it?
<coolcoder613_32> haikuporter digger
<coolcoder613_32> same error with anura
<Begasus> that shouldn't be possible :)
<augiedoggie> you need to add _x86 to the names
<Begasus> as gcc2 is marked broken "!x86_gcc2"
<Begasus> right
<coolcoder613_32> Error: anura_x86 not found in repository
<Begasus> let me boot into 32bit ...
<Begasus> what about digger (is your master branch uptodate)?
<coolcoder613_32> yes
<augiedoggie> your haikuports.conf is set up for building secondary arch packages?
<coolcoder613_32> How do id o that?
<Begasus> ah! :)
<Begasus> uncomment this line: #SECONDARY_TARGET_ARCHITECTURES="x86"
<coolcoder613_32> now its working...
<Begasus> +1 :)
<coolcoder613_32> build-requires "devel:glm" of package "anura_x86-4.0.2" could not be resolved
<Begasus> this is a header only package for "any" arch, can you search with "pkgman search glm"?
<Begasus> forgot to plug in the power supply on the 32bit one :)
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<augiedoggie> are you using the --get-dependencies option to haikuporter?
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<coolcoder613_32> build-requires "devel:libboost_filesystem_x86 >= 1.83.0" of package "anura_x86-4.0.2" could not be resolved
<augiedoggie> are you using the --get-dependencies option to haikuporter?
<coolcoder613_32> now i am
<Begasus> maybe conflicting with another boost_devel package?
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<Begasus> coolcoder613_32, are you running haikuporter from the package or from a git checkout?
<coolcoder613_32> from git, the package had a too short wget timeout
<Begasus> ah k, waddlesplash merged a PR there yesterday that informs you now with conflicting packages
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<PulkoMandy> erysdren: I don't understand why no one created the "Games" entry in deskbar yet. If there is one category that's obvious and not problematic, it's this one
<PulkoMandy> So let's do it and get things started with categorizing Deskbar
<erysdren> i would like to categorize the games i've ported (at the very least) under Games
<PulkoMandy> If you start this you have to do all the games in Haikuports :> (but other people can help with it)
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<erysdren> it can be done. but it will take time
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<erysdren> the real issue is whether haikuports will accept it
<Begasus> erysdren, create an issue at haikuports for it
<Begasus> doesn't Gentoo use some kind of menu layout also?
<erysdren> my first step was gonna be to do a PR on haikuporter to add a shell scriplet
<erysdren> for Games
<erysdren> yes
<Begasus> +1 go for it! :)
<erysdren> ok, PR created
<erysdren> i like videogames, so one of my usability tests of any operating system is whether or not i can play the games i like
<erysdren> i wanna help push Haiku in that direction :P
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<coolcoder613_32> +2 :thumbsup:
<erysdren> if yall wanna give your thoughts or add a thumbs up rating
<Begasus> nice :)
<Habbie> erysdren, haha, that's how i came in here a few months ago - but with "i will file PRs until I can do embedded software development with Haiku" :D
<erysdren> so how far did you get? :P
<Habbie> some of these were distractions
<Habbie> "how can i port software if we don't even have pkgdiff"
<Habbie> tio was crucial
<Habbie> then i got stuck on Rust being broken, which I trust is fixed by now
<Habbie> and, like you, i also ended up fixing a thing or two in haikuporter
<erysdren> aye
<Begasus> util-linux could use an update Habbie :)
<Habbie> Begasus, ha
<Habbie> i haven't done any haiku in a while - but maybe next week
<Begasus> iirc marked vulnerable at repology :)
<coolcoder613_32> Rust could use an update
<Begasus> still can't figure out rav1e for that :P
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<Begasus> k, icon and Deskbar link added for anura/frogatto, thanks for the ground work augiedoggie! :)
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/97da11a24878...e06f7d720b9e
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus e06f7d7 - anura, add icon and application info (#9650)
<Begasus> come to think of this, frogatto is "any" but anura isn't, so this makes that frogatto can't be "any" if it needs secondary arch package for 32bit?
<Begasus> biab
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<zard> coolcoder613_32: Did you see the python function decorators suggested in the forum?
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<Begasus> 613 commits to haikuports from july up to september :)
<zard> Nice +1
<Begasus> trying to get some logs into a text file :) git log --pretty=format:"%ad - %an: %s" --after="2023-07-01" --until="2023-09-30" ...
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<Begasus> thanks for the comment jmairboeck :) back to the drawing area :)
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<jmairboeck> should be something like if [ $targetArchitecture = x86_gcc2 ]; then PROVIDES+="anura"; fi (with better formatting of course)
<Begasus> playing a bit with "git log/shortlog" here atm :)
<Begasus> more useful then strolling through each of the commits at github :D
<Begasus> OscarL has been busy in the third quarter :)
<Begasus> biab
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<andreaa72> do you need excel or libreoffice calc spreadsheets ?
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<Begasus> jmairboeck, me feels stupid :)
<Begasus> could let it require "cmd:anura" :)
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<jmairboeck> that's even better, Begasus!
<Begasus> yeah, no hastle :)
<Begasus> that should do it
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-0/±2] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/e06f7d720b9e...06367f6ff55c
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 06367f6 - frogatto, add icon, Deskbar link (#9651)
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<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+3/-0/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/06367f6ff55c...32d1ae84f805
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Luca1991 32d1ae8 - melonDS: added recipe (#9646)
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/32d1ae84f805...4b149f470f58
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 4b149f4 - pango, revbump, skipped newer harfbuzz on buildmaster 32bit (#9652)
<Begasus> jmairboeck, any word on the perl issues/PR's (also the one from korli)?
<jmairboeck> I didn't have much time the last few weeks. For me, any solution is good, I don't mind which one we use. we can also leave perl primary arch only.
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<Begasus> for me too, could live without frozen_bubbles on 32bit for now :)
<jmairboeck> maybe that could be fixed by not including pango, I'm not sure if it is actually needed. SDL itself shouldn't be a problem for gcc2.
<jmairboeck> Next week, I'll have a bit more time to check this, hopefully.
<Begasus> k, thanks for this +1
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<andreaa72> send me your formulas => i will do a calc sheet ... ;)
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<andreaa72> 4 free
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<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-1/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/4b149f470f58...c4efcf9eabd3
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus c4efcf9 - vimp, bump version (#9653)
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<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/c4efcf9eabd3...d73fa742a73f
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus d73fa74 - clamav, attempt to fix 32bit build (#9654)
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<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/d73fa742a73f...25df6cf66c96
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 25df6cf - clamav, use recent rust version for 32bit (#9655)
<Begasus> how come 32bit buildmaster still uses an old rust version?
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<Begasus> hi there cocobean
<cocobean> Cause it is rusty?
<cocobean> Hi begasus (just kidding)
<Begasus> rust 1.15 links to old libssl :P
<Begasus> and should be superseded by newer versions?
* Begasus looks at nielx[m] ... :)
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<cocobean> I thought we updated this during the firefox ESR build test era....
<Begasus> openssl and rust have been updated, having older rust versions lying around doesn't help
<waddlesplash> need to deactivate the package then
<Begasus> that's up to the maintainers there waddlesplash :)
<Begasus> weird that up to 1.21.0 sec arch is still disabled and yet 1.15.0 is still being used (I don't know if it's a hardcoded version at buildmasters)
<Begasus> on 64bit this doesn't seem to be a problem
<Begasus> ...        /boot/home/haikuports/packages/rust_bin-1.69.0-1-x86_64.hpkg
<Begasus> augiedoggie, going to try that out :)
<Begasus> whoot!
<Begasus> need to remember this one :)
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<Begasus> k, that's fixed :)
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<andreaa72> hello from Andrea Allegri, peace ;)
<andreasdr[m]> Hi there.
<andreaa72> hi there, no wars ... :)]
<andreaa72> stop wars ... ;)
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<Begasus> closing down, cu peeps!
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<erysdren> howdy
<andreasdr[m]> :)
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<erysdren> hey mmu_man
<erysdren> humdingerb on the github talked about a query system for deskbar categorization
<erysdren> and vetoed my idea for a "Games" category
<erysdren> any idea what he's talking about? he said you worked on it
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<PulkoMandy> erysdren: there is an idea to have deskbar use queries instead of directories, but this was proposed 10 years ago and no one worked on it since…
<PulkoMandy> I think the Games folder would still make sense while we wait for a better solution
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<erysdren> i agree, but humdinger doesn't
<erysdren> he has more control over this than me :P
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<PulkoMandy> I don't have access to my gihub account until I'm back at work in about 2 weeks
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<erysdren> no problem, i was just showing you what he said
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