<OscarL>
Hello christech. Slow night on the channel :-D
<christech>
I guess. I haven't been here in forever
<OscarL>
Welcome back then!
<christech>
Got Haiku working on my Dell laptop pretty good so I thought i'd give it a go
<christech>
Most everything is working minus the camera
<OscarL>
yeah, only a few old models of webcams actually work, AFAIK.
<christech>
yup
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<Begasus>
g'morning peeps
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<OscarL>
Buen día Begasus.
<Begasus>
Hola OscarL :)
<Begasus>
LLVM17 almost packaged on 32bit (had some wrong variables for the python script)
<OscarL>
Hoping you don't need to rebuild it all to fix that!
<Begasus>
nah, not so far :) "hp llvm17 -GF"
<Begas_VM>
grabbing llvm17_x86-17.0.1-1-x86_gcc2.hpkg and moving it to /boot/home/haikuports/packages/llvm17_x86-17.0.1-1-x86_gcc2.hpkg
<Begas_VM>
got it! :)
<OscarL>
woohoo!
<Begas_VM>
now check with qtcreator ...
<Begas_VM>
wish me luck ...
* OscarL
crosses fingers :-)
<OscarL>
meanwhile... here trying polish up a bit the Python 3.12.0 patchset... but hit that "random" build issue, so...
<OscarL>
trying to find out what the problem is with that.
<Begas_VM>
bugger :/
<Begas_VM>
hope you find it
<OscarL>
or at least hide it well enough so it passes the buildmasters :-P
<OscarL>
(thinking of setting up my own buildmaster, just for tests and giggles)
<Begas_VM>
:)
<Begas_VM>
success! * LLVM (required version == 17.0.1)
<Begas_VM>
not building the whole thing :P
<Begasus>
k PR created :)
<Begas_VM>
cp'd to other laptop :)
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<OscarL>
I might be overthinking this. I'll probably should just add "cmd:python3 >= 3.10" to BUILD_PREREQIORES and call it a day :-D
<OscarL>
(will do that if I get any build failing again while testing)
<OscarL>
Ahhh, nothing like a "Fatal Python error: PyOS_AfterFork_Child" to spice things up!
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<Begasus>
k, time to switch back to native here :)
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<Begasus>
OscarL, pushed something for multimarkdown/mtools :)
<OscarL>
lets see...
<Begasus>
jmairboeck not around yet, also changed that path for the texlive files
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<Begasus>
there he is :)
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<Begasus>
jmairboeck, pushed a change for multimarkdown / texlive files (actually latex files)
<jmairboeck>
Hi Begasus, I saw your change
<Begasus>
files end up with the other .sty files in there now, so that path should work for it
<Begasus>
checking other laptop for detection of LLVM17 with qt-creator
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<jmairboeck>
It could be that a call to texlive-update.sh, or at least mktexlsr is needed to make the files usable from TeX, but I guess we can leave that to the user and don't need a post-install script (and an actual dependency on texlive)
<Begasus>
right, wouldn't go that far for it now, atleast not for multimarkdown
<Begasus>
let's merge for now
<Begasus>
ah, just saw your comment, will fix/check
<jmairboeck>
It's not a big deal, I just think this looks a bit strange
<Begasus>
like this? "for f in markdown mmd mmd2all mmd2epub mmd2fodt mmd2odt mmd2opml mmd2pdf mmd2tex; do"
<jmairboeck>
yes
<Begasus>
+1 :) (see I'm still learning too) :D
<jmairboeck>
bash syntax can be weird sometimes :)
<jmairboeck>
the "do" is kind of the equivalent of an opening brace in C-like languages, and that goes at the end of the line according to the Haiku coding guidelines
<jmairboeck>
if you put it on the next line, the ";" at the end is redundant and could be removed
<Begasus>
ah, makes sence now, I wouldn't be a clean coder I guess :)
<Begasus>
makes me think to checkout Genio here ...
<Begasus>
Missing a button "Build and launch" there :)
<Begasus>
k, detection on other laptop for llvm17 fine too
<Begasus>
should check with something smaller (project) then qt-creator :)
<botifico>
[haikuports/haikuports] Begasus fc9469b - multimarkdown, revbump to rename scripts, mtools, remove conflict for multimarkdown (#9594)
<Begasus>
too bad Geany can't be really used to write code :/ (can't seem to type # in there)
<andreasdr[m]>
Hi there.
<Begasus>
hi andreasdr[m]
<andreasdr[m]>
Hi Begasus. :)
<andreasdr[m]>
How is it going?
<andreasdr[m]>
Lazy sunday here.
<andreasdr[m]>
Ill work later a bit.
<Begasus>
think I got llvm17 fixed for 32bit :)
<andreasdr[m]>
Until now I have my coffee and I am digging the web. I e.g. looked up the new Raspberry PI 5. Looks promising.
<andreasdr[m]>
2.4GHZ * 4, the Orange PI 5 looks even more promising.
<andreasdr[m]>
Nice.
<Begasus>
those are arm based right?
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<andreasdr[m]>
Yes.
<andreasdr[m]>
I also have the VisionFive2 but waiting for Vulkan to work with it.
<andreasdr[m]>
This is RISCV. But its too slow for ordinary desktop usage.
<Begasus>
I'll stick with what I got atm :)
<andreasdr[m]>
Sure. I am also just curious. I look for desktop computer that has very low idle power usage to save some money and heal the planet :DDD
<Begasus>
tried that many years ago, not a lot has changed since then :P
<andreasdr[m]>
Thats not true anymore. I suspect the RPI5 and the OrangePI5 to be seriously usable now for desktop experience. But I dont mind to wait another 1-2 years to get things even better.
<andreasdr[m]>
The orange PI 5 has 4 performance cores with 2.4GHZ and even 4 another efficiency cores. Thats nice.
<andreasdr[m]>
RPI5 and OPI5 have the same main CPU.
<zard>
Ok, so you're porting the repository from tkinter to Haiku-PyAPI
<coolcoder613>
I'm also trying to seperate the engine
<coolcoder613>
And i'll be dogfooding Haiku-PyAPI
<coolcoder613>
Just out of curiosity, how old do you think I am?
<coolcoder613>
I am still in school
<zard>
That means either high school or college. I'll guess high school
<zard>
be back in 15 minutes
<coolcoder613>
Nope, I'm 13
<coolcoder613>
Wait, that *is* high school, I guess
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<aa72>
coolcoder613 : hello
<coolcoder613>
Hi
<zard>
Wow! that's younger than I thought
<coolcoder613>
I started programming a few years ago, with Unity and C#, and *then* i started scratch seriously, although i had been working with it before in school
<coolcoder613>
eventually i learned Python, and that's my main language, but a can do i bit a Go
<razetime>
is there documentation detailing a haiku OS contributor workflow?
<coolcoder613>
s/a/of
<aa72>
printf('hello coolcoder !!!');
<aa72>
cout >> "hello !!!"
<coolcoder613>
I like exploring different operating systems, although Haiku is my favorite
<coolcoder613>
i remember i didnt try it for a while, i was put off by the yellow tabs
<coolcoder613>
eventually i installed it, to reach my goal of having 4 different operating systems on a certain laptop
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<coolcoder613>
linux, FreeBSD, DOS, and Haiku
<coolcoder613>
the only 'major' OS i havent tried is OS/2
<zard>
Nice! I'm going to have to go now, unfortunately :(
<coolcoder613>
goodbye
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<botifico>
[haikuports/haikuports] davidkaroly ed7314f - wireshark: update to 4.0.10 (#9598)
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<aa72>
why the name botifico ?
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<nielx[m]>
Begasus: what is ccls?
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<HaikuUser2>
Howdy, i just upgraded my screen from a philips to a samsung same size and resolution support of the hardware but with the new Samsung Frame i am stuck with 1280x1024 resolution. Is it an EDID issue, and how do i fix it?
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<Begasus>
nielx[m], something that popped up that didn't seem that large of a project :)
<Begasus>
it's in haikuports
<Begasus>
no luck on codeblocks yet
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<B2IA>
(Butler) Welcome to BeShare.agmsmith.ca.
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<botifico>
[haikuports/haikuports] Begasus b64a7a1 - jansson, bump version (#9600)
<OscarL>
razetime: VBox and VMware are alternatives too (haven't used Hyper-V, so... no comments there).
<razetime>
are there any contributors who do that?
<OscarL>
several-
<razetime>
oh, that is neat
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<augiedoggie>
i do almost all of my haikuports work inside of vmware
<razetime>
i was intending on installing a linux/unix eventually so I'll see if that plan changes
<augiedoggie>
Begasus: that last commit has a SECONDARY_ACRCHITECTURE of x86_gcc2
<bjorkintosh>
razetime?!
<bjorkintosh>
huh.
<bjorkintosh>
never noticed your presence before.
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<razetime>
well, i joined here today, bjorkintosh
<bjorkintosh>
oh. welcome. Haiku is beautiful (even if it's c++)
<bjorkintosh>
it's sublime.
<bjorkintosh>
I run it on bare metal and via qemu
<bjorkintosh>
though it's been a few months. need to update.
<bjorkintosh>
the machine I run it on is more than 10 years old. but it flies!
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<Begasus>
yeah augiedoggie, left over, I think they added it for when 64bit would get gcc2 support :)
<Begasus>
so I mostly leave them as they are
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<Begasus>
augiedoggie, I think fbrosson was keen on keeping those in :)
<bbjimmy>
I thought my video went out. I had a blank screen and moving the mouse or pressing a key did not bring video up. re-booted by holding ctrl alt del for 10 seconds and no video. I foond that the video cable had vibrated out of the socket on the monitor. That's what happens when one skips tightening the screws when setting up the system. It took about 9 months to come loose.
<Begasus>
good thing you caught it :)
<bbjimmy>
Rinning on this cute little ThinkCentre. I got it used and was woried I would have to replace it already.
<Begasus>
k, doing a (final) round on 32bit for db, I think I got it now :)
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<augiedoggie>
32/64 bit multilib isn't going to happen any time soon, i still think it should be removed :P
<Begasus>
I would say let's vote for it :P
<Begasus>
but yeah, not going to happen any time soon
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<augiedoggie>
it's not a big deal to me if the recipe has that, but if i have to work on any like that i'll remove it
<Begasus>
don't think anyone has done any work on that for a while
<Begasus>
"any" doesn't need it
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<Begasus>
on the account of "all" I'm not even sure if it applies also for sec arch
<Begasus>
but don't think so, otherwise we would have to disable some for gcc2 :)
<augiedoggie>
all as a secondary? i don't think i've seen that
<Begasus>
neither have I, was just tinkering
<Begasus>
lol, forgot to remove that gui part in db ...
<jmairboeck>
I think it should be possible to use "all" for secondary as well. It is just a placeholder for whatever architecture you are building with if it isn't specified explicitly.
<jmairboeck>
At least that's how I understood it
<Begasus>
let's not over complicate it for now :)
<jmairboeck>
but as long as there is only one secondary architecture ("x86") you can just as well use it directly, so "all" wouldn't be any different
<Begasus>
lol, db is getting complicated too :) no tools for secondary, java only for secondary :)
* OscarL
gives the look of dissaproval to the Shift+{left,right}-arrow-key hidden shortcuts on Terminal.
<Begasus>
if "all" would be used there we would have to use "all !x86_gcc2" for those not building for gcc2, makes it weird :) we only have x86, let's leave that as it is untill something pops up :)
<OscarL>
I used to have a WIP patch adding support for text selection on Terminal... /me goes looing for it.
<Begasus>
would be handy sometimes OscarL, caught myself many times doing the same thing
<OscarL>
Begasus: IIRC, my patch worked on MC's editor and some other I can't remember the name now, but not on nano :-/
<jmairboeck>
Begasus: only if "x86_gcc2" is configured as a secondaryArch in your haikuports.conf (or on the buildmasters)
<Begasus>
some are already scared when they find out how gcc2hybrid is setup for creating recipes :)
<Begasus>
for instance "$secondaryArchSubDir", we know what it is, I don't use it that often, but others could react like "What!!??" ;)
<Begasus>
this portPackageLinksDir I still don't get (well I do kinda, but never really have succes with it)
<Begasus>
OscarL, I'm guessing that works if you don't have any tabs open in Terminal?
<OscarL>
On my patch, I've just changed so SHIFT+lef/right does text selection only. if you want to move tabs around...
<OscarL>
the shortcut should be different, say CMD+SHIFT+left/right (or OPT+Shift, can't recall)...
<Begasus>
CMD :P
<OscarL>
what I don't like about current situation is that you have no GUI indication of that shift+left/right shortcut at the moment.
<Begasus>
someone tried building the PR for LLVM17 on 32bit? :)
<OscarL>
So... IMO... if CMD+left/right does tab switching, let CMD+shift+left/right *move* tabs (and free shift+left/rigt for text selection).
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<Begasus>
biab
<aa72>
bot it builder ?
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<OscarL>
xcb-proto package seems to be placing files under lib/python/po/vendor-packages/xcbgen, which makes no sense.
<win8linux[m]>
How are apps put in the Featured tab in HaikuDepot?
<win8linux[m]>
As in, what or who decides which apps to be in Featured?
<win8linux[m]>
* which apps are to be
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