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<kasagawa> what can i do for this error: could not open xxx missing symbol ?
<kasagawa> i use haikuDepo installed superTux,but can not open it
<roracle> i'm a noob at haiku so idk :( maybe someone else here can help you though, they're really good :)
<roracle> if you're okay with the vitriol of the internet in general, you could also post in the forums
<kasagawa> thanks
<roracle> np. people don't mind helping here, but sometimes the IRC can be slow to respond.
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<_Dario_> Hello kasagawa.
<_Dario_> you mention an issue with TuxCarts?
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<kasagawa> No , the MineTest Has the same Error Alert when open it
<_Dario_> something like 'Symbol not found'?
<_Dario_> for issues with ported software, you can submit a ticket to HaikuPorts:
<erysdren> what symbol?
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<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes pushed 1 commit to master [+2/-2/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/f2f3e96ff044...a2ae2487d55a
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes a2ae248 - zesarux: bump version
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<Begasus> g'morning peeps
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<kasagawa> hello everyone
<kasagawa> Here at 4:24 from toyko
<Begasus> Hello there kasagawa, almost morning then there :)
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<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+2/-2/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/a2ae2487d55a...4ab94e771ca8
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 4ab94e7 - libuv, bump version (#9693)
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<Begasus> Hola OscarL!
<OscarL> Hey there, Begasus! :-D
<Begasus> Suites: ​3 failed​, ​104 passed​, ​107 of 107 completed​
<Begasus> Asserts: ​​​7 failed​, ​4554 passed​, ​6 skip​, ​of 45
<Begasus> not bad for a first time check on npm :)
<OscarL> All good on your side, I hope?
<Begasus> yeah, you too? haven't seen you in a while :)
* OscarL sees npm, and runs away scared.
<Begasus> well, it's there and current version reported as vulnerable :P
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<Begasus> Hi jmairboeck!
<OscarL> Begasus: fine, thanks! Just not on a "chatty" mood (and a bit low-energy, but... oh well).
<Begasus> at least I know nodejs is working fine :)
* Begasus charges OscarL's batteries ....
<OscarL> I could use a charge up, yup :-)
<Begasus> current recipe just cp's all the stuff, now I got something that actualy builds and installs
<Begasus> and runs the tests (thanks Arch) :)
<Begasus> Only running into (I guess) one final error on bumping nodejs to the LTS version :(
<OscarL> kasagawa: just in case, try running `pkgman full-sync` from a Terminal window (to ensure all your packages are up-to-date). If the "missing symbol" error persists, please open a ticket on HaikuPorts repo on Github.
<Begasus> try "lgrep" ? ;)
<Begasus> on that note, thanks for that OscarL!
<OscarL> :-) I have a slightly improved version of that now, so it works on both 64 and 32 bits now.
<Begasus> mostly on 64bit now, only boot the 32bit if I "need" to do some checks there
<OscarL> Will share it (along other small "bashrc things" as soon as I clean it up a bit).
<Begasus> +1
<OscarL> Begasus: so... you finally joined the dark side! :-P
<Begasus> heh
<Begasus> OscarL, why not put that up on your github (wiki)?
<Begasus> could be interesting for others also
<OscarL> Begasus: I have them in a private repo for now :-/
<Begasus> as long as you stored them somewhere so they won't get lost
<OscarL> ...along with other "less than ready" (aka: embarrassing) code :-)
<Begasus> lol
<OscarL> need to sort them out first :-P
<OscarL> Begasus: re: npm... sounds like good progress. Thanks for your work, as usual, and best of luck with the remaining warts!
<Begasus> maybe should do another round on nodejs (current version)
<Begasus> thanks :)
<Begasus> 2 python packages there :)
<Begasus> bias, doggies
<OscarL> kasagawa: Also, the other day you asked about screen recording on Haiku. Please install "BeScreenCapture". Best tool we have for that :-)
* OscarL takes a look at Begasus' link.
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* OscarL lets Begasus know that he's looking at bumping "slixmpp" now.
<OscarL> Mmm, might as well also move "poezio" (only user of "slixmpp") to Python 3.10 while I'm at it.
<Begasus> yeah, already did a few python ones, added python3.12 already
<OscarL> Just a warning... expect a possibly bumpy road ahead with 3.12.
<Begasus> downside for nodejs, patchset for it doesn't apply, so manually need to do that
<Begasus> only added them to be prepared OscarL :)
<OscarL> there are breaking changes (like the removal of distutils module), and deeper issues with change in Python's internals (GIL-related stuff, mostly)
<Begasus> they will pop up eventually I guess
<OscarL> I hit the second issue while testing the "Haiku-PyAPI" bindings (with non-packaged pybind11) with 3.12 (works ok on 3.11).
<Begasus> so 3.12 needs patching for that, or expected behaviour?
<OscarL> I think it will be "fun" to see where the issues lies... core Python itself, libraries needing 3.12 changes, or our patchset needing a better maintainer than me :-D
<Begasus> no luck yet on the latter, we're stuck with you for now :P
<Begasus> moin humdinger!
<humdinger> good morning boys and girls!
<OscarL> and robots! :-P
<Begasus> and peeps!
<humdinger> and chickens
<Begasus> and dogs (but one was an early chick today) :)
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] autocommitter pushed 1 commit to master [hrev57354] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=23486c0db38c+%5Ee526b61813f7
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 23486c0db38c - Update translations from Pootle
<Begasus> well .. "npm install gauge" does seem to work :P
<Begasus> installs in ~/node-modules though ...
<OscarL> poezio/slixmpp have moved from github to gitlab, and finally to codeberg.org (no wonder I couldn't access the homepage listed on PyPI :-D
<Begasus> lol
<Begasus> don't they host the latest version?
<OscarL> PyPI, yes. But the recipe was still using github for SOURCE_URI.
<OscarL> "grabbing slixmpp_python3{9,10}..."
<Begasus> ah .. tsss
<OscarL> I'll test moving poezio to 3.10, and if it works... I'll most likely remove 3.9 from slixmpp.
<OscarL> no other user of it, AFAICT.
<Begasus> go for it :)
<OscarL> heh, I have version 1.5.2/1.6.0/1.8.2 on slixmpp's "download" folder still :-D
<Begasus> hope it's only the sources :)
<OscarL> yup! from previous recipe updates that I long forgot about :-D
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+2/-2/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/4ab94e771ca8...6f2a6f587c3b
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] davidkaroly 6f2a6f5 - libfilezilla: update to 0.45.0 (#9694)
* OscarL ran "git status" without "-uno", and almost had a heart attack.
<OscarL> I'd probably clean up a bit my clone later on :-D
<Begasus> if I do that on my "work" repo I get one too :)
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-1/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/6f2a6f587c3b...747e4f96726a
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 747e4f9 - npm, bump version (#9695)
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<Begasus> who is up for grpc? ;)
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<OscarL> seems I've updated it on the past... so it can't be that hard :-D
<Begasus> heh
<OscarL> Woot! got "LGTM" reply on my PySerial PR (from August 2022) :-D
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<Begasus> +1 :-)
<Begasus> biab
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<Begasus> re
<OscarL> poezio PR (https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/pull/9696) should be good to go.
<OscarL> (after that builds on buildmasters, I'll open up the updated slixmpp one that also drops 3.9)
<OscarL> *I'll open a PR for the updated...
<Molnija> how much RAM would I need
<OscarL> Molnija: for what?
<Molnija> that was a musing
<Molnija> sorry
<OscarL> np :-)
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/747e4f96726a...e9f8213dd3e2
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] OscarL e9f8213 - poezio: switch to Python 3.10. (#9696)
<Begasus> thanks :)
<OscarL> np :-). PR for slixmpp opened.
<OscarL> Looking at grpc now.
<Begasus> +1
<OscarL> booo! I forgot to rev-bump :-D
<Begasus> ow, didn't bump version there?
<Begasus> tss ...
<OscarL> noup, 0.14 is still the newest.
<Begasus> biab :)
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<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/e9f8213dd3e2...a09a2ad26a07
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] OscarL a09a2ad - poezio: forgot to rev-bump on previous commit. (#9698)
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<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-1/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/a09a2ad26a07...621d53696b23
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] OscarL 621d536 - slixmpp: update to version 1.8.4, drop Python 3.9. (#9697)
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<Begasus> k, another round on nodejs 20.9.0
<Begasus> all good on buildmasters OscarL :)
<OscarL> nice :-)
<OscarL> Begasus: the updated "lgrep": https://bpa.st/M5CQ
<OscarL> (heh, "No command specified" should say: "No symbol specified" or "Missing parameter")
<Begasus> hpdated
<Begasus> h/u*
<Begasus> changed to "symbol" here
* humdinger waves
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<OscarL> k. apparently only "bear" uses grpc in-tree (with no lib-version requirement)
<OscarL> I guess we could also update that one after grpc then.
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<Begasus> 'lo coolcoder613_mac
<zard> Hello :)
<Begasus> hi zard
<coolcoder613_mac> Hi everyone :)
<Begasus> OscarL bear should still be ok with newer grpc I guess
<Begasus> only uses it at build time iirc?
<OscarL> "lib:libgrpc++$secondaryArchSuffix"
<Begasus> ah k
<OscarL> hello coolcoder613_mac, zard.
<Begasus> then it depends if SONAME changes a lot :)
<OscarL> will have to double check that.
<OscarL> but first... I should eat something :-D
<Begasus> yep, oncy you got a build ... (think you know the drill) :)
<kasagawa> OscarL thank you . i installed the beScreenCapture it is very nice
<zard> Ha ha, your recent message and my recent message on the forums about Haiku-PyAPI contradict :D
<zard> coolcoder613_mac
<coolcoder613_mac> Which message(s)?
<zard> Not quite a contradiction, but... :D
<Begasus> maybe it wasn't a good idea then to enable tkinter :P
<zard> I was thinking the project is small and at risk of being abandoned. But apparently you're interested in providing missing features if people ask for them.
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<coolcoder613_mac> zard: I add new features when I am working on a project that needs them, I am not currently doing that(my current project is cross platform), so...
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<coolcoder613_mac> About your post, I hadn't read that yet :)
<zard> Ah, perfectly fine just working on what interests you. We are just volunteers after all :)
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<coolcoder613_mac> So far, it seems noone else is using it for anything, besides me, so I am the only needing more widgets.
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<zard> Pull request on BeMatched. May as well make it nice if it's going to be the example project that we show others :)
<phschafft> BeMatched. must be some nerd dating site.
<zard> Ooh. Let's throw out the actual BeMatched and replace it with that. That would be way cooler!
<coolcoder613_mac> I only realized after I wrote it that there was basically the same thing as (forgot what it was called) in demos
<phschafft> where people do 'pull requests' and you have 'extended attributes' on your profile. ;)
<coolcoder613_mac> PC/IX doesnt even have vi!)
<coolcoder613_mac> What?
<coolcoder613_mac> irssi seems to be truncating my message
<zard> Hello fellow irssi user :)
* coolcoder613_mac has to type it out again, but first, guess the content
<zard> Of the line starting with "PC/IX"?
<coolcoder613_mac> Yes
<coolcoder613_mac> Well it actually started with 'I've' but irssi..
<zard> My guess: I've found out that PC/IX doesnt even have vi! And it's UNIX!
<zard> BTW, never encountered irssi truncating my messages, so, can't help on that
<coolcoder613_mac> Not really :)
<zard> lol
<coolcoder613_mac> I've been playing around with old version of Unix
<coolcoder613_mac> *versions
<coolcoder613_mac> I'm running v7/x86 in qemu now
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<Begasus> bugger ...
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<coolcoder613_mac> It's a bit hard to play around with something when I cant even page through /bin
<coolcoder613_mac> uurgh, even man isnt paged!
<coolcoder613_mac> Aaah... ls /usr/ucb
<zard> Surely "more
<zard> " exists
<Begasus> whoot! grabbing nodejs20-20.9.0-1-x86_64.hpkg and moving it to /Opslag/haikuports/packages/nodejs20-20.9.0-1-x86_64.hpkg
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<coolcoder613_mac> No `more`, how can I add /usr/ucb to PATH? What shell is this?
<OscarL> grpc went from a 8.37 MiB tarball, to 16.75 MiB one now :-( (initializing the work git repo took "forever").
<coolcoder613_mac> ls /bin/*sh: csh osh sh
<zard> Maybe the shell that came before bash, sh?
<zard> Now, try writing POSIX compliant without using any bash extenstions :P
<coolcoder613_mac> hmm... bootstrapping
<OscarL> aaand, of course the patchset doesn't applies :-(
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<coolcoder613_mac> echo: not found????
<Begasus> could have told you that earlier OscarL :)
<Begasus> npm build still ok with newer nodejs, though spits out warnings at the beginning ... (node:41666) MaxListenersExceededWarning: Possible EventEmitter memory leak detected. 11 close listeners added to [TLSSocket]. Use emitter.setMaxListeners() to increase limit
* Anarchos hates npm, because of my paid work…
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<Begasus> bugger, he could test if things works as should :)
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<Anarchos> when power status shows (0:16), is it 16 seconds, or 16 minutes ?
<coolcoder613_mac> Probably 16 minutes, did the power cut right after?
<Anarchos> coolcoder613_mac won't try that right now, i am cloning a github repo ...
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<Begasus> wb Anarchos, just saw you mentioning npm at work :)
<Anarchos> Begasus i hate my work, i already said that :)
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<BrunoSpr> hello all
<Begasus> yeah, but maybe you could check "our" npm port :)
<OscarL> hi BrunoSpr.
<Begasus> hello BrunoSpr
<OscarL> Begasus: mmm got a grpc build started... but it tries to download a bunch of stuff :-/
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<OscarL> https://bpa.st/UYRQ, after that... the build seems to continue "normally".
<Anarchos> Begasus sure lol.
<Anarchos> Begasus what i miss now on haiku is VSCode : a lot of interesting tools use it as IDE
<Begasus> fighting with nodejs atm Anarchos :P
<Begasus> well ... finetuning/re-creating the patchset ...
<OscarL> [350/7537] !?!?! this will take a while...
<OscarL> And... the build failed. I'll leave this one to korli if he needs it :-)
<OscarL> "tcp_socket_utils.cc:547:42: error: 'IPV6_TCLASS' was not declared in this scope"
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<Begasus> undef it? ;)
<Begasus> k, listed all files ... re-creating the patchset ...
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<Begasus> k, done ... now checking if I didn't f** it up :)
<Begasus> 2
<Begasus> err ... 24 files involved
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-1/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/621d53696b23...51d255cda39e
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] hoanga 51d255c - nim: update to 2.0.0 (#9691)
<augiedoggie> :/ i was in the middle of commenting on that one
<augiedoggie> the patch file can be dropped as it isn't used, might as well remove the 1.6.0 recipe too
<Begasus> whoops, only just saw the change in my mailbox
<Begasus> augiedoggie, if there is no use, it could still be removed
<augiedoggie> yeah, it's not a big deal to remove it afterwards, i was just going to have him do it all in one commit
<Begasus> had been thinking about it, but didn't do a full check there (only a build and with that on the PR from luca)
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] augiedoggie pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-2/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/51d255cda39e...8dcf43524fa6
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] augiedoggie 8dcf435 - nim: remove old patchset and recipe (#9699)
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<Begasus> ah right, nodejs isn't available on 32bit (not going to push a build for that here)
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<Begasus> k, that worked :)
<Begasus> nim fine too (with nodejs20)
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<andreaa72> hullo
<andreaa72> peace and love ... ;)
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<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+2/-2/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/8dcf43524fa6...b2be6eaf536e
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] davidkaroly b2be6ea - filezilla: update 3.66.0 (#9701)
<Begasus> k, trying a build for netbeans might not be such a good idea :)
<Begasus> but .... https://ibb.co/xjcZ4y5 :)
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<botifico> [haiku/website] humdingerb pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haiku/website/compare/ac8474ee5430...dc70a63286e5
<botifico> [haiku/website] diversys dc70a63 - get-haiku/r1beta4: add missing whitespace
<yann64[m]> Nice Begasus!
<yann64[m]> Why not a good idea? Is it unstable?
<Begasus> why? our current version is "old" and reported vulnerable at repology :)
<Begasus> packaging is a bit of an issue (first time with some java thingy) :)
<Begasus> and during build it downloads tons of jar files
<Begasus> hmm ... could grab a pre-build version too I guess
<Begasus> +823MiB .... not a small one :)
<Begasus> *extracted
<yann64[m]> :o
<Begasus> k, created package +464MiB, that's not that bad :P
<Begasus> bbl
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<andreasdr[m]> Begasus. <3
<andreasdr[m]> some IDEs on Haiku love.
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [hrev57355] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=c199c568dec0+%5E23486c0db38c
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] c199c568dec0 - DebugAnalyzer: Fix -Werror=mismatched-new-delete.
<Begasus> at least this one doesn't suffer from the key maps like GTK ones :)
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<Begasus> k, PR created :)
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<Begasus> done for today
<Begasus> cu peeps!
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [hrev57356] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=e8d328979c07+%5Ec199c568dec0
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] e8d328979c07 - ICUTimeConversion: Fix buffer overflows and add more error handling.
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<coolcoder613_32> Good morning
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<augiedoggie> waddlesplash: i think something changed in the EFI loader, i have an older version that boots in vmware fine
<augiedoggie> and the file sizes are noticeably different between the two
<augiedoggie> 477K versus 658K
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<waddlesplash> augiedoggie: which one is smaller?
<augiedoggie> waddlesplash: the new one
<waddlesplash> yes, that's expected
<waddlesplash> there were a bunch of changes to optimization settings
<waddlesplash> we now use for size optimization instead of O2
<waddlesplash> stripped a ton off
<augiedoggie> sure
<waddlesplash> any idea when the breakage began?
<waddlesplash> could be relevant in fixing
<augiedoggie> didn't notice it until i saw the ticket and tried updating my efi loader
<augiedoggie> then it wouldn't boot
<waddlesplash> there's bare metal efi systems with these same symptoms going back a long time
<waddlesplash> so maybe we can fix this now
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<augiedoggie> yeah, i'm not sure which hrev for this older copy of the loader
* augiedoggie runs strings to see if it's embedded
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<SoulHunter> Hello everyone
<SoulHunter> I have a question about Haiku in VM, can anybody help me ?
<coolcoder613_32> What is your question?