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<OscarL> holy flood of new perl modules recipes!
<OscarL> Seems like jmairboek and I are on opposite trajectories (I'm just trying to remove as much python module recipe as possible :-D)
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<Begasus[m]> morning peeps
<OscarL> early today Begasus[m]? Good morning, btw :-)
<Begasus[m]> yeah, been so in the past days OscarL , night there I suppose? :)
<nekobot> [haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to branch master: https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/9c65bb4020cd...f264e2de0660
<nekobot> • OscarL (f264e2de): tqdm: drop unused recipe. (#11985)…
<OscarL> yeah, 01:30 here.
<Begasus[m]> only got to the second PR and Web+ has issues
<OscarL> Begasus[m]: not too many PRs today, because I spent most of the time re-implementing the bash script I use to get the list of packages to work on.
<Begasus[m]> sometimes it works so well ...
<Begasus[m]> yeah, only 5, you're slacking? ;)
<nekobot> [haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to branch master: https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/f264e2de0660...80628bd3cb8e
<nekobot> • OscarL (80628bd3): oslash: drop unused recipe. (#11989)…
<OscarL> wrote it on Python this time, and using HaikuPorter's .DependencyInfo files from its "repository" directory, much more accurate than just grepping things :-D
<nekobot> [haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to branch master: https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/80628bd3cb8e...db86ec8294ee
<nekobot> • OscarL (db86ec82): smartypants: drop unused recipe. (#11986)…
<nekobot> [haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to branch master: https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/db86ec8294ee...9404a3986075
<nekobot> • OscarL (9404a398): dukpy: drop outdated and unused recipe. (#11988)…
<nekobot> • OscarL (9198c254): jsonschema: drop unused recipe. (#11987)…
<nekobot> [haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to branch master: https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/9404a3986075...9198c2540a99
<Begasus[m]> k, that was that
<Begasus[m]> PS, I still prefer make over ninja
<Begasus[m]> it's hard to track an error in ninja build because of the flood of output
<OscarL> added one more "drop" PR :-P
<OscarL> I think I've only seen one or two ninja builds, looked pretty neat IIRC.
<Begasus[m]> if the build is OK it's fine enough
<nekobot> [haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to branch master: https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/9198c2540a99...7b5404b0fefe
<nekobot> • OscarL (7b5404b0): dulwich: drop outdated, unused recipe. (#11990)…
<OscarL> while writting/using my new script, found out some minor issues in some recipes... like puting "_python3xx" dependencies on BUILD_PREREQUIRES instead of on BUILD_REQUIRES.
<OscarL> ToDo list for .recipe cleanups keeps getting bigger and bigger :-D
<Begasus[m]> keeps you of the streets :)
<OscarL> I have hopes of turning this script into a "haikuporter repo shell" of sort, so you could use it to quickly find **exact** deps for a given package (runtime, build, and or test ones).
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<OscarL> for now, worked pretty well for these dev-python/* recipes (once I forced hp to remove old .DependencyInfo files :-D).
<Begasus[m]> I probably still have some of those dropped ones installed, should have a look there
<Begasus[m]> 93 python310 still ...
<Begasus[m]> tomli_python310 was one of them?
<OscarL> no, the one dropped was toml_python3xx
<OscarL> no "i" at the end.
<Begasus[m]> ah that's required by a few
<Begasus[m]> 35 directories to sort out which one to remove .... :P
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<OscarL> launching optimized build for Python 3.10.0alpha6 (released a few hours ago)
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<Begasus[m]> on top! :)
<Begasus[m]> ok, dev-python cleaned up and on par with upstream now :P
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<OscarL> Weee! Seems I blew past the 500 merged PRs mark :-D (got 546 commits in, according to `git shortlog -sen --no-merges`)
<OscarL> just a tiny bit short from korli's 5107, or Begasus[m]'s 3960 :-P
<OscarL> closing in on humdinger's 548, though! :-D
<OscarL> (got bored waiting for the Python build to finish)
<Begasus[m]> you need to refresh there :P
<Begasus[m]> korli
<Begasus[m]> korli's Commits
<Begasus[m]> 5,183 commits
<Begasus[m]> that's what I see here
<OscarL> weird.
<Begasus[m]> ps, haven't seen augiedoggie this week?
<OscarL> last I saw was something about spybmessage on haikuports (and gerrit), around 2/3 of March.
<OscarL> irclogs shows him last on 2025-03-03 too. Hopefully he's just chilling by the beach, or something :-)
<Begasus[m]> yeah, hope he's ok
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<OscarL> it is insane the speed difference in optimized vs non-optimized builds of Python (also VM vs bare-metal). Fastest I got was just about 1m15s (outside of haikuporter, bare-metal)... vs nearly an hour for optimized+LTO on VM :-/
<OscarL> (latter includes creating the .hpkg, so not apples to apples. still... quite the difference)
<Begasus[m]> 1m to build the whole python package?
<OscarL> no, just to compile it outside of haikuports.
<OscarL> ie: just the "make -j 4" part.
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<OscarL> ./configure alone takes another minute and change :-D
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<Begasus[m]> still very nice!
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<OscarL> Now that Python 3.14 seems pretty stable to use parallel builds (-j 4 here has yet to fail me)... that speed up gets killed by the single-threaded testing/PGO and LTO steps :-(
<Begasus[m]> gotta love those :P
<OscarL> real 64m25,758s to build python3.14-3.14.0~a6-1-x86_64.hpkg. Ouch.
<OscarL> Not sure if this was one of those VMware slow sessions I get sometimes.
<OscarL> or 3.14 got fatter :-D
<Begasus[m]> I'm glad enough to be back on bare metal :D
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<OscarL> k, updated the (draft) PR for Python 3.14.0a6.
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<nekobot> [haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to branch master: https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/7b5404b0fefe...1c7fa048ca75
<nekobot> • Begasus (1c7fa048): dolphin_kf6, bump to 24.12.3 (#11991)
<Begasus[m]> another one down
<Begasus[m]> now it's plugins
<Begasus[m]> got 3 recipes for dolphin (and a few others), the KF5 one, KF6 one and one for master checkouts :)
<Begasus[m]> in the process cleaning all inbetween still on the disk
<OscarL> getting too sleepy, so I better log out. Good luck with those plugings, and the clean up, Begasus[m]!
<OscarL> Have fun, and be well!
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<nekobot> • Begasus (6019095e): dolphin_plugins_kf6, bump to 24.12.3 (#11992)
<nekobot> [haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to branch master: https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/1c7fa048ca75...6019095e6a9e
<nekobot> [haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to branch master: https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/6019095e6a9e...cc4af76e7ef0
<nekobot> • Begasus (cc4af76e): kdegraphics_thumbnailers_kf6, bump to 24.12.3 (#11993)
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] aplgithub pushed 1 commit to master [hrev58746] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=05ff00f04c51+%5E20a644938515
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 05ff00f04c51 - HaikuDepot: Refactor for general performance
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<nekobot> [haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to branch master: https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/cc4af76e7ef0...3bc903aa91c2
<nekobot> • Begasus (3bc903aa): analitza_kf6, bump to 24.12.3 (#11994)
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<nekobot> • Begasus (41478e2c): cantor, bump to 24.12.3 (#11995)
<nekobot> [haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to branch master: https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/3bc903aa91c2...41478e2c597f
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<nekobot> • Begasus (2609cbd7): kasts, bump to 24.12.3 (#11996)
<nekobot> [haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to branch master: https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/41478e2c597f...2609cbd79c70
<Begasus[m]> find . -maxdepth 3 -type f -name *24.12.2.recipe (clear now), all gear24 uptodate now
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] autocommitter pushed 1 commit to master [hrev58747] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=317f10be3f20+%5E05ff00f04c51
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 317f10be3f20 - Update translations from Pootle
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<Begasus[m]> hi jmairboeck
<Begasus[m]> looking into KIO/KJobWidgets atm
<jmairboeck> hi Begasus[m]
<jmairboeck> I'm currently updating texlive to 2025 ;)
<jmairboeck> now that Biber is finally finished and merged
<Begasus[m]> KDirNotify is now in KIO (it wasn't before)
<Begasus[m]> cool!! +1 jmairboeck
<jmairboeck> the list of cmd:s that are provided by texlive_core is getting longer again
<Begasus[m]> Dolphin also build now without that patch
<Begasus[m]> heh
<Begasus[m]> k, need to backport these to 6.11.0 after testing
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<jmairboeck> texlive_core built successfully :)
<Begasus[m]> now the hard part :)
<jmairboeck> the big part :)
<jmairboeck> the "hard" part is done (updating the patchset etc.)
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<jmairboeck> the other package is just **very** big, but rather trivial
<nekobot> [haikuports] korli pushed 1 commit to branch master: https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/2609cbd79c70...d5fbbec81640
<nekobot> • korli (d5fbbec8): llvm20: add _GNU_SOURCE define for another source file
<Begasus[m]> eeps, another llvm build :P
<nekobot> [haikuports] jmairboeck pushed 1 commit to branch master: https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/d5fbbec81640...170d1c4b9946
<nekobot> • jmairboeck (170d1c4b): texlive_core: update to 2025
<Begasus[m]> given llvm and texlive, I guess the buildmasters will be busy for the weekend :P
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<nekobot> [haikuwebkit] pulkomandy pushed 2 commits to branch haiku: https://github.com/haiku/haikuwebkit/compare/20bd724a365f...eeb41a022de9
<nekobot> • lonemadmax (fe8cf9d1): Disable complex text rendering in more cases…
<nekobot> • lonemadmax (eeb41a02): Call debugger on complex text path…
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<nekobot> [haikuports] threedeyes pushed 1 commit to branch master: https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/170d1c4b9946...771060eb691b
<nekobot> • threedeyes (771060eb): llama_cpp: bump version
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 2 commits to master [hrev58748] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=d95c04c2eef6+%5E317f10be3f20
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 77dc532e7667 - libroot: Drop unused/uneeded empty tls.cpp.
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] d95c04c2eef6 - libroot/glibc: Remove some more unused files.
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [hrev58749] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=e2878192d8cc+%5Ed95c04c2eef6
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] e2878192d8cc - Updated credits of AboutSystem
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [hrev58750] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=3d0e9319f61b+%5Ee2878192d8cc
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 3d0e9319f61b - libroot/glibc: Put wctype_t declaration inside second guard.
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [hrev58751] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=3bb7234bcbdf+%5E3d0e9319f61b
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 3bb7234bcbdf - launch_daemon: job is launching when condition is met
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<dcatt> Question...anyone here having issues with Web+ download feaure not working on R1B5?
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<Anarchos> hello
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<scanty> hi Anarchos
<Anarchos> scanty i am fighting with the code of BootMAnager....
<scanty> that does not sound like fun, Anarchos
<Anarchos> no it takes me months to identify why i got a segfault when code reaches a call to a virtual method
<scanty> what's wrong with BootManaager
<scanty> ah
<scanty> ouch :(
<scanty> i suppose you have deubug enabled, and strip disabled on your binary. maybe even do a MALLOC_DEBUG
<Anarchos> yes
<Anarchos> Debugger shows that _vptr points to an invalid address...
<scanty> good luck! i'd love to help but even that is beyond me.
<scanty> i have my head in some tile rendering code right now, not fun.
<nekobot> [haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to branch master: https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/771060eb691b...ec43e52868ef
<nekobot> • zyv (ec43e528): mc: update project links and license (#11997)
<Begasus[m]> back
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 2 commits to master [hrev58752] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=7aa3dc423ea3+%5E3bb7234bcbdf
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 34c270d9935b - RosterPrivate: add missing parameters in documentation
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 7aa3dc423ea3 - launch_daemon: fix stopping services
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<Anarchos> to do my test on BootManager, i build a @nightly-anyboot, but it is rather time consuming. Is it a faster target ? I fear that @minimum-image will lack some features ?
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<Begasus[m]> Anarchos that should only be the first time you build it?
<Begasus[m]> at least when I run a new build after pulling in the latest commits it doesn't do a "full" build
<Anarchos> Begasus[m] it takes a bit time in "haiku_devel.hpkg: Creating the package ... haiku.hpkg: Collecting package contents ..."
<Begasus[m]> "full" rebuild*
<Begasus[m]> ah :)
<Anarchos> of course it doesn't recompile, but i don't need the full iso only to test my BootManager tweaks
<Begasus[m]> I think you can give targets for haiku and haiku_devel to jam? think waddlesplash mentioned that somewhere last year ;)
<Begasus[m]> done for today
<Begasus[m]> cu peeps!
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<nekobot> • jmairboeck (068d977e): texlive: update to version 2025
<nekobot> [haikuports] jmairboeck pushed 1 commit to branch master: https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/ec43e52868ef...068d977e576b
<Anarchos> jmairboeck thanks jmairboeck !!
<jmairboeck> let's see if the builders manage to build it this time
<jmairboeck> when building it locally, I got a "Segment violation" when mimesetting files at the end, I suppose it ran out of memory or something. Afterwards the whole system pretty much locked up.
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<waddlesplash> jmairboeck: beta5 or nightly?
<jmairboeck> nightly
<jmairboeck> I couldn't enter KDL really because my keyboard layout is weird and I can't really use both hands fully, so I just reset the VM in the end
<waddlesplash> see if VirtualBox has an equivalent to QEMU sendkey
<waddlesplash> I use that in the monitor console to send the KDL keys
<waddlesplash> sendkey alt-sysrq-d
<jmairboeck> that would maybe help if I can bind it to an easier keyboard shortcut
<jmairboeck> my physical laptop keyboard additionally requires the Fn key for SysRq, which makes it even more difficult
<Anarchos> Begasus[m] i find it strange than BXXX xx; or BXX *xx = new BXX(); behaves differently...
<jmairboeck> Anarchos: the first form allocates the BXXX object on the stack and deallocates the object automatically when the variable goes out of scope. The second form allocates it on the heap, gives you a pointer to it and you have to delete it manually again (or someone else).
<Anarchos> jmairboeck i know but in a while loop, the object seems reallocates on the stack, so its attributes are reinitialize in each loop iteration !
<jmairboeck> If you define the variable inside the loop, then yes, you get a new instance for each iteration
<Anarchos> jmairboeck i is defined before the loop, which is weird....
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<Anarchos> Begasus[m] i made progress !!!
<Anarchos> not sure what i did wrong, but thebios starts on HDD : bootloader menu of HDD displays the partition of the USB Key. When i select it, it says 'not a bootable parition'. Then it shows the boot menu of the USB key, and i was able to boot on the usb key :)
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<B2IA> BeShare server reboot time...
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<nekobot> • TingPing (e25e1c37): [GLib] Ensure WebKitCookieManager APIs keep cookie cache up to date…
<nekobot> [haikuwebkit] pulkomandy pushed 845 commits to branch haiku: https://github.com/haiku/haikuwebkit/compare/eeb41a022de9...fb108a0e7e86
<nekobot> • achristensen07 (bc4cb9e7): Update fullscreen state in other processes when entering and exiting fullscreen with site isolation…
<nekobot> • Constellation (61945ab1): [JSC] Add heuristics for approx bytecode cost for FTL compiled code…
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